jimnyc
11-05-2020, 04:48 PM
I think Trump is a fantastic president and on paper one of the best ever. Being the one who beat Hillary Clinton, and a known quantity, it was just never going to happen.
Can you just put aside everything for a moment - and wonder what the country would look like and what things would be different if the Democrats didn't work against Trump? That there was a bipartisan approach? That the Democrats attended his inauguration and got off to a less than divisive start? If any and all Russian BS and lies weren't taken to the degree that they were?
That they just simply tried to get along? Only truly fought over things in congress that typical politicians disagree about? Other than that, worked together to make the USA a great place (trying to figure the best way to word that one). Worked together for common ground on national security? Same with international?
I know it's a pipe dream to ever think otherwise from either side. I wish it had been better with Trump. Should Biden end up winning, I think and hope you'll end up seeing more common ground. Still many disagreements and failures, but a lot of common ground as well. And while not many smooth and perfect roads ahead, I don't think it will be non-stop hatred. And it wouldn't be because Trump is in there. Most things on the table and where a lot of hatred is discussed prior, during and after, don't/didn't even have Trump around.
With that all said and off my chest for now - should things legit not go his way, then I don't think 2024 is a great idea. The only thing would be solely for tears and frustration on the left, but unfortunately it's too difficult for him to perform his job properly with America as-is and with government as-is. :rolleyes:
If he doesn't win a 2nd term than likely wouldn't make a difference in 2024? Dunno, depends on the next candidate. And the continued shit show that would bring back to us. Not that I don't love the man in office and all he has done... I honestly think that from the minute it would even be a true thought, the process would only be restarted, protesting and violence won't simply disappear from the left's repertoire. The fighting tooth and nail for every last thing & the lying & the amount of pure hatred I've never seen before & everything else.... first off, how far away does all that go to begin with? Those true colors may not be used as much, but we know it's there. And when is it unleashed again? :rolleyes:
Plus, lastly, I think once Donald Trump transitions back to somewhat of a regular life again, and back into business once again, I don't think he would even want to transition back into politics again.
All I know is that I saw more dirtiness from within politics and the media in these past 4 years. More than I knew existed and more than I cared to learn.
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Farage Predicts UK-Style Postal Voting Fraud Will Be Found, Trump Will Be Back in 2024 If He Loses
Nigel Farage has predicted evidence of UK-style postal voting fraud will be found in the U.S., but that Donald Trump will fight again in 2024 even if Biden takes the White House.
Mr Farage had been “following the Trump train” for much of the climax of the 2020 campaign, being invited to speak by the President at a rally in Pheonix, Arizona, but is now set to return to “Lockdown UK” with the election still in chaos.
“Now, to accuse people of electoral fraud is one thing, but you have to prove it,” said the leader of the Brexit Party, currently in the process of relaunching as the Reform Party.
“What we know from 20 years of bitter experience, ever since the great Tony Blair introduced wide-scale postal voting in Britain, is that it’s open to fraud, it’s open to intimidation, there are massive problems with verification,” the British political heavyweight recalled.
“Just last year the Brexit Party fought a by-election in Peterborough. We lost by 600 votes. We saw things like, on polling day, somebody with a carrier bag bringing a thousand ballots into a polling station,” he alleged.
“We knocked on doors where people told us that they had actually effectively had their ballots their blank ballot papers taken from them,” he went on.
“And yet, when we went back to try and get them to swear affidavits the doors weren’t opening,” he lamented.
Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/05/farage-predicts-uk-style-postal-voting-fraud-will-be-found-trump-will-be-back-in-2024-if-he-loses/
Can you just put aside everything for a moment - and wonder what the country would look like and what things would be different if the Democrats didn't work against Trump? That there was a bipartisan approach? That the Democrats attended his inauguration and got off to a less than divisive start? If any and all Russian BS and lies weren't taken to the degree that they were?
That they just simply tried to get along? Only truly fought over things in congress that typical politicians disagree about? Other than that, worked together to make the USA a great place (trying to figure the best way to word that one). Worked together for common ground on national security? Same with international?
I know it's a pipe dream to ever think otherwise from either side. I wish it had been better with Trump. Should Biden end up winning, I think and hope you'll end up seeing more common ground. Still many disagreements and failures, but a lot of common ground as well. And while not many smooth and perfect roads ahead, I don't think it will be non-stop hatred. And it wouldn't be because Trump is in there. Most things on the table and where a lot of hatred is discussed prior, during and after, don't/didn't even have Trump around.
With that all said and off my chest for now - should things legit not go his way, then I don't think 2024 is a great idea. The only thing would be solely for tears and frustration on the left, but unfortunately it's too difficult for him to perform his job properly with America as-is and with government as-is. :rolleyes:
If he doesn't win a 2nd term than likely wouldn't make a difference in 2024? Dunno, depends on the next candidate. And the continued shit show that would bring back to us. Not that I don't love the man in office and all he has done... I honestly think that from the minute it would even be a true thought, the process would only be restarted, protesting and violence won't simply disappear from the left's repertoire. The fighting tooth and nail for every last thing & the lying & the amount of pure hatred I've never seen before & everything else.... first off, how far away does all that go to begin with? Those true colors may not be used as much, but we know it's there. And when is it unleashed again? :rolleyes:
Plus, lastly, I think once Donald Trump transitions back to somewhat of a regular life again, and back into business once again, I don't think he would even want to transition back into politics again.
All I know is that I saw more dirtiness from within politics and the media in these past 4 years. More than I knew existed and more than I cared to learn.
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Farage Predicts UK-Style Postal Voting Fraud Will Be Found, Trump Will Be Back in 2024 If He Loses
Nigel Farage has predicted evidence of UK-style postal voting fraud will be found in the U.S., but that Donald Trump will fight again in 2024 even if Biden takes the White House.
Mr Farage had been “following the Trump train” for much of the climax of the 2020 campaign, being invited to speak by the President at a rally in Pheonix, Arizona, but is now set to return to “Lockdown UK” with the election still in chaos.
“Now, to accuse people of electoral fraud is one thing, but you have to prove it,” said the leader of the Brexit Party, currently in the process of relaunching as the Reform Party.
“What we know from 20 years of bitter experience, ever since the great Tony Blair introduced wide-scale postal voting in Britain, is that it’s open to fraud, it’s open to intimidation, there are massive problems with verification,” the British political heavyweight recalled.
“Just last year the Brexit Party fought a by-election in Peterborough. We lost by 600 votes. We saw things like, on polling day, somebody with a carrier bag bringing a thousand ballots into a polling station,” he alleged.
“We knocked on doors where people told us that they had actually effectively had their ballots their blank ballot papers taken from them,” he went on.
“And yet, when we went back to try and get them to swear affidavits the doors weren’t opening,” he lamented.
Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/11/05/farage-predicts-uk-style-postal-voting-fraud-will-be-found-trump-will-be-back-in-2024-if-he-loses/