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stephanie
02-04-2007, 03:39 PM
The Democrat party.....Should be renamed the DemoTAX party..:(


Sun Feb 4, 12:19 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. presidential candidate John Edwards on Sunday said that he would raise taxes, chiefly on the wealthy, to pay for expanded healthcare coverage under a plan costing $90 billion to $120 billion a year to be unveiled on Monday.



"We'll have to raise taxes. The only way you can pay for a healthcare plan that cost anywhere from $90 to $120 billion is there has to be a revenue source," Edwards said on NBC's Meet the Press news program.

The 2004 vice presidential nominee and former North Carolina senator said his plan would "get rid of George Bush's tax cuts for people who make over $200,000 a year."

He said the plan would also reduce healthcare costs.

"Finally we need to do a much better job of collecting the taxes that are already owed," he said, specifically targeting what he said are large amounts of unpaid capital gains taxes.

"We should have brokerage houses report the capital gains that people are incurring because we're losing billions and billions of dollars in tax revenue," Edwards said.

Offering a preview of his plan, Edwards said it aims to bring healthcare coverage to 47 million uninsured Americans, lower costs for the middle class and foster competition.

It would expand Medicaid, the state-federal health insurance plan for the needy, and offer subsidies for the uninsured. He said, "We ask employers to play a bigger role, which means they either have to have coverage or they have to buy into what we're calling health markets."

Without providing details, Edwards said his plan would create "health markets" nationwide. One choice available in the markets would be "the government plan, so people who like the idea of a single-payer health insurance plan, that is actually one of the alternatives," he said.

Edwards declared his candidacy in December calling for fewer U.S. troops in Iraq, a restoration of U.S. world leadership and an end to poverty.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070204/pl_nm/usa_politics_edwards_dc

red states rule
02-04-2007, 03:47 PM
The Democrat party.....Should be renamed the DemoTAX party..:(


Sun Feb 4, 12:19 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. presidential candidate John Edwards on Sunday said that he would raise taxes, chiefly on the wealthy, to pay for expanded healthcare coverage under a plan costing $90 billion to $120 billion a year to be unveiled on Monday.



"We'll have to raise taxes. The only way you can pay for a healthcare plan that cost anywhere from $90 to $120 billion is there has to be a revenue source," Edwards said on NBC's Meet the Press news program.

The 2004 vice presidential nominee and former North Carolina senator said his plan would "get rid of George Bush's tax cuts for people who make over $200,000 a year."

He said the plan would also reduce healthcare costs.

"Finally we need to do a much better job of collecting the taxes that are already owed," he said, specifically targeting what he said are large amounts of unpaid capital gains taxes.

"We should have brokerage houses report the capital gains that people are incurring because we're losing billions and billions of dollars in tax revenue," Edwards said.

Offering a preview of his plan, Edwards said it aims to bring healthcare coverage to 47 million uninsured Americans, lower costs for the middle class and foster competition.

It would expand Medicaid, the state-federal health insurance plan for the needy, and offer subsidies for the uninsured. He said, "We ask employers to play a bigger role, which means they either have to have coverage or they have to buy into what we're calling health markets."

Without providing details, Edwards said his plan would create "health markets" nationwide. One choice available in the markets would be "the government plan, so people who like the idea of a single-payer health insurance plan, that is actually one of the alternatives," he said.

Edwards declared his candidacy in December calling for fewer U.S. troops in Iraq, a restoration of U.S. world leadership and an end to poverty.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070204/pl_nm/usa_politics_edwards_dc


But remember. John Boy has his tax loopholes, tax shelters, and accountants to ensure HE will NOT pay additional taxes. He needs his money for his new 320,000 sq ft home he is building (he is keeping it on the small side as to not to flaunt his weealth)

With libs, it the rest of us who have to pay tax increases not them

KarlMarx
02-04-2007, 04:01 PM
But remember. John Boy has his tax loopholes, tax shelters, and accountants to ensure HE will NOT pay additional taxes. He needs his money for his new 320,000 sq ft home he is building (he is keeping it on the small side as to not to flaunt his weealth)

With libs, it the rest of us who have to pay tax increases not them
That's John Edwards' two Americas for you, those who make the rules, and those that are supposed to follow them. They usually are mutally exclusive.

If they really wanted to do something about medical insurance premiums they'd require states to deregulate medical insurance. New York State will not allow any of its residents to buy health insurance out of state. So when are the states going to deregulate medical insurance, allow competition and get those health insurance premiums down? Most likely sometime between Nirvana and Never.

Hobbit
02-04-2007, 04:47 PM
That's John Edwards' two Americas for you, those who make the rules, and those that are supposed to follow them. They usually are mutally exclusive.

If they really wanted to do something about medical insurance premiums they'd require states to deregulate medical insurance. New York State will not allow any of its residents to buy health insurance out of state. So when are the states going to deregulate medical insurance, allow competition and get those health insurance premiums down? Most likely sometime between Nirvana and Never.

Or he could make it harder for lawyers like him to sue doctors for millions of dollars on baseless claims.

red states rule
02-04-2007, 05:06 PM
Or he could make it harder for lawyers like him to sue doctors for millions of dollars on baseless claims.

Ask a liberal to do what is best for America and, at the same time, take a shot at one of their biggest campaign contributers?

Loser Pays laws are needed. Issue solved

Gunny
02-04-2007, 06:56 PM
The Democrat party.....Should be renamed the DemoTAX party..:(


Sun Feb 4, 12:19 PM ET



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. presidential candidate John Edwards on Sunday said that he would raise taxes, chiefly on the wealthy, to pay for expanded healthcare coverage under a plan costing $90 billion to $120 billion a year to be unveiled on Monday.



"We'll have to raise taxes. The only way you can pay for a healthcare plan that cost anywhere from $90 to $120 billion is there has to be a revenue source," Edwards said on NBC's Meet the Press news program.

The 2004 vice presidential nominee and former North Carolina senator said his plan would "get rid of George Bush's tax cuts for people who make over $200,000 a year."

He said the plan would also reduce healthcare costs.

"Finally we need to do a much better job of collecting the taxes that are already owed," he said, specifically targeting what he said are large amounts of unpaid capital gains taxes.

"We should have brokerage houses report the capital gains that people are incurring because we're losing billions and billions of dollars in tax revenue," Edwards said.

Offering a preview of his plan, Edwards said it aims to bring healthcare coverage to 47 million uninsured Americans, lower costs for the middle class and foster competition.

It would expand Medicaid, the state-federal health insurance plan for the needy, and offer subsidies for the uninsured. He said, "We ask employers to play a bigger role, which means they either have to have coverage or they have to buy into what we're calling health markets."

Without providing details, Edwards said his plan would create "health markets" nationwide. One choice available in the markets would be "the government plan, so people who like the idea of a single-payer health insurance plan, that is actually one of the alternatives," he said.

Edwards declared his candidacy in December calling for fewer U.S. troops in Iraq, a restoration of U.S. world leadership and an end to poverty.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070204/pl_nm/usa_politics_edwards_dc

Why do they always say they're going to raise taxes on the "wealthy," but it's me that takes it up the butt?

red states rule
02-04-2007, 06:59 PM
Remember, libs say you have to pay your fair share

Not them

But you

Gunny
02-04-2007, 07:03 PM
Remember, libs say you have to pay your fair share

Not them

But you

Yeah, well I still haven't fully recovered financially from Clinton.

red states rule
02-04-2007, 07:04 PM
Yeah, well I still haven't fully recovered financially from Clinton.

If you have a 401K, the Bush tax cuts have helped it very well

avatar4321
02-04-2007, 07:25 PM
Every right is coupled with a responsibility.

If you want to enjoy a right to health care, you have the responsibility to work for it like everyone else.

red states rule
02-04-2007, 07:28 PM
Every right is coupled with a responsibility.

If you want to enjoy a right to health care, you have the responsibility to work for it like everyone else.

to libs that is a very meanspirited, cruel, and heartless viewpoint

the nerve of anyone to expect others to work for and earn things in life

it the governments job to hand it to them on a silver platter

pegwinn
02-04-2007, 07:29 PM
Ask a liberal to do what is best for America and, at the same time, take a shot at one of their biggest campaign contributers?

Loser Pays laws are needed. Issue solved

HR25 and the above.

Good Call.

red states rule
02-04-2007, 07:31 PM
HR25 and the above.

Good Call.

Then thieves like Edwards would have to actually have to take real cases

pegwinn
02-04-2007, 07:34 PM
Then thieves like Edwards would have to actually have to take real cases

Yep, and the income tax wouldn't be there for the American Gestapo to use to incarcerate folks.

Now realistically speaking; Does anyone believe either of these will come to pass?

red states rule
02-04-2007, 07:36 PM
Yep, and the income tax wouldn't be there for the American Gestapo to use to incarcerate folks.

Now realistically speaking; Does anyone believe either of these will come to pass?

With real conservatives in Congress and President - yes

Gunny
02-04-2007, 07:38 PM
Yep, and the income tax wouldn't be there for the American Gestapo to use to incarcerate folks.

Now realistically speaking; Does anyone believe either of these will come to pass?

If not these, the next ones. One way or the other, the Dems will get into our pockets to fund their socialist programs. It's what they do.

pegwinn
02-04-2007, 07:42 PM
With real conservatives in Congress and President - yes

Then you are an optimist and I am a realist.

BTW, I hope you are right and I am wrong.

red states rule
02-04-2007, 07:43 PM
IF Republicans learn thier lesson from the last election, they will return to Ronald reagan conservatism

This is what put them in power, and by walking away from it, it cost them their power

Mr. P
02-04-2007, 07:47 PM
Democratic U.S. presidential candidate John Edwards on Sunday said that he would raise taxes, chiefly on the wealthy, to pay for expanded healthcare coverage under a plan costing $90 billion to $120 billion a year to be unveiled on Monday.

Yep. I heard him say it myself..What he didn't say is even IF those nasty rich folks are taxed more by taking away their cuts, it won't be enough to fund a National health care system. So, bend over everyone.

red states rule
02-04-2007, 07:49 PM
Yep. I heard him say it myself..What he didn't say is ever IF those nasty rich folks are taxed more by taking away their cuts, it won't be enough to fund a National health care system. So, bend over everyone.

I cannot see a majority of voters, voting to increase taxes.

I cannot see any Dem wining the Electorial College

Mr. P
02-04-2007, 07:56 PM
I cannot see a majority of voters, voting to increase taxes.

I cannot see any Dem wining the Electorial College

I can. We have become an entitlement society;” They have it so should I” and the Dems say YES vote for us and you will have it.

red states rule
02-04-2007, 07:58 PM
I can. We have become an entitlement society;” They have it so should I” and the Dems say YES vote for us and you will have it.

Vote Democrat - It is easier then working and thinking

Mr. P
02-04-2007, 08:03 PM
Vote Democrat - It is easier then working and thinking

That's it.

stephanie
02-04-2007, 08:05 PM
Democtax=Socialism....Through and Through..

If I have to keep shouting this out....I WILL, damnit...;)

avatar4321
02-04-2007, 10:43 PM
Vote Democrat - It is easier then working and thinking

Reminds me of Futurama:

HIGH PRIEST
Great Wall Of Prophecy, reveal to us
God's will that we will blindly obey.



PRIESTS
(chanting) Free us from thought and
responsibility.


HIGH PRIEST
We shall read things off you.


PRIESTS
(chanting) Then do them.


HIGH PRIEST
Your words guide us.


PRIESTS
(chanting) We're dumb.

avatar4321
02-04-2007, 10:45 PM
to libs that is a very meanspirited, cruel, and heartless viewpoint

the nerve of anyone to expect others to work for and earn things in life

it the governments job to hand it to them on a silver platter

Well anyone who thinks that is living in bondage because they are living a lie. Truth is the only thing that can set you free. And the truth is you cant separate the right from the corresponding responsibility. The second you stop being responsible you lose the right.

Pale Rider
02-05-2007, 12:31 PM
Taxes, taxes, and more taxes. I'm going to go join up with that group that's holding out for not paying their taxes. Ruby Ridge, Waco, written all over it, and I've only seen news on it a couple times. The liberal MSM is PURPOSELY NOT covering this event. Hell, they don't want to start a "don't pay your taxes" revolt.

pegwinn
02-05-2007, 03:37 PM
Taxes are an easy fix.

Throw your voice behind HR25, it is commonly called the FairTax. I am not saying it is perfect. But it would be a damn sight better than what we have now.

IF you check out my blog, on the left side there are a list of cool links and the fairtax link is there.