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jimnyc
11-20-2020, 01:37 PM
Affidavits, memos, accusations, generalizations, exaggerations, proof to follow, statistical evidence...
I've heard it all since election day. But nothing I have seen has been definitive and nothing detailed specifically. Many court cases already. But weeks later and that's still all I see. If they have it, or should I say - if they had it - regardless of court cases pending, with timing a huge factor - I'm of the belief they would be on any and all media stations that would take them and having the evidence detailed and ready. Hell, it would be all over any site they could get it on.
You either have specific evidence of what you make accusations about, or you don't. I don't see it and haven't and unfortunately don't think it's coming.
If I'm wrong, even better - but if I'm right, it's about time to call it a day. I think so. Others? Keep fighting? Release what they have?
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Trump Lawyer Sidney Powell Responds to Tucker Carlson: ‘He Was Insulting, Demanding and Rude’
Friday on Fox Business Network’s “Morning with Maria,” Trump lawyer Sidney Powell responded to Tucker Carlson, who a night earlier had said his show had asked for evidence from Powell to back up allegations electronic voting machines had changed millions of votes that went for President Donald Trump.
Powell called Carlson’s requests “insulting, demanding and rude.”
“I didn’t get angry with the request to provide evidence,” she said. “In fact, I sent an affidavit to Tucker that I had not even attached to a pleading yet to help him understand the situation, and I offered him another witness who could explain the math and the statistical evidence far better than I can. I’m not really a numbers person.”
“He was insulting, demanding and rude,” Powell added. “And I told him not to contact me again, in those terms.”
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/11/20/trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-responds-to-tucker-carlson-he-was-insulting-demanding-and-rude/
jimnyc
11-20-2020, 01:40 PM
Here's Tucker's side of things: and I'll 3rd them with the electronic voting.
Tucker Carlson Says Trump Campaign Lawyer Refused To Provide Evidence Backing Up ‘Bombshell’ Voter Fraud Claim
Fox News host Tucker Carlson said Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell refused to provide his show evidence backing up her “bombshell” claim that electronic voting machines stole millions of votes from President Donald Trump.
“We took Sidney Powell seriously. We had no intention of fighting with her,” Carlson said Thursday. “We simply wanted to see the details. How could you not? So we invited her on the show. We would have given her the whole hour. We would have given her the whole week, actually, and listened patiently the whole time. It’s that big a story.”
“But she never sent any evidence. Not a page,” Carlson said. “When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her. When we checked with others around the Trump campaign, people in positions of authority, they told us Powell has never given them any evidence either. Nor did she provide any today at the press conference.”
Powell said during a press conference Thursday that “communist money” sent through “Venezuela, Cuba and possibly China” was used to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. She said that Dominion Voting Systems and its software, which according to the Wall Street Journal serve about 40% of American voters, were created at the direction of former Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez “to make sure he never lost another election” after he lost an election in his country.
Specifically, Powell said the voting software used by Dominion has the ability to flip votes from Trump to Biden. Powell said an algorithm was probably run “all over the country to take a certain percentage of votes from President Trump and flip them to President Biden.”
Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn’s lawyer now working for Trump, says the election was rigged by “communist money” and a scheme devised by the late Hugo Chavez, President of Venezuala. pic.twitter.com/8XTnRHCzAM
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) November 19, 2020
Powell said the Trump campaign’s legal efforts would prove that Trump “won by a landslide.”
Carlson said Powell’s claims, if true, would “amount to the greatest single crime in American history.”
“Powell did say that electronic voting is dangerous. We’re with her there,” Carlson said. “But she never demonstrated that a single actual vote was moved illegitimately by software from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.”
“Why are we telling you this? Because it’s true,” Carlson said. “Maybe Sidney Powell will come forward soon with details on how exactly this happened. Maybe she will. We’re certainly hopeful that she will.”
https://dailycaller.com/2020/11/19/tucker-carlson-sidney-powell-voter-fraud-evidence/
Kathianne
11-20-2020, 02:53 PM
Most people in the US, even on the left, do not think this was a fraud free election. Covid. :rolleyes: and mail in ballots just too much of a challenge to commit shananigans.
With that said, the standard for the courts is the burden is on plaintiff to PROVE any fraud would change the outcome-a very high bar-with very tight timeline. Very difficult with one or two states/instances, but nearly impossible with the need to overcome the numbers here. None of this takes into account how much time has already elapsed, nor the conspiracies thrown out. So much of this is time wasting and sadly, works to destroy the trust needed in our system of government. I do think there will be a choice to replace the system, the question is how and with what.
jimnyc
11-20-2020, 03:24 PM
More info on Dominion.
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“Should Be Scads of Evidence of Frankly an International Criminal Conspiracy” – WOW! – ATTORNEY SIDNEY POWELL on Confiscated Servers in Germany
Earlier today during the Trump Campaign press conference Attorney Sidney Powell weighed in on the Dominion-Smartmatic servers that were reportedly confiscated in Germany.
Powell confirmed the reports were legitimate.
Reporter Emerald Robinson: There were reports that a piece of hardware possibly a server was picked up in Germany. Is that true and is it related to this?
Attorney Sidney Powell: That is true. It is somehow related to this. But I do not know if good guys got it or bad guys got it.
Later this evening Sidney Powell joined Lou Dobbs and was asked again about the SCYTL raid in Germany.
Sidney elaborated on the incident.
Lou Dobbs: There have been great controversy as you know about the reports on a raid on a company SCYTL in Germany which held election data presumably… Can you tell what actually did happen there and what you do know?
Sidney Powell: Well I know that is one of the server centers. There is also one in Barcelona. So it is related to the entire Smartmatic-Dominion operation. We do not know whether the good guys got the servers or whether the bad guys go them. Being on the outside of the government we simply don’t know. I’m hoping it’s the good guys and if they have that then there should be scads of evidence of frankly an international criminal conspiracy of the worst sort.
Lou Dobbs: And the presumption then is that they had the records on those servers of all of the votes that were processed by Dominion or Smartmatic.
Sidney Powell: Yes, the way it works is either the votes can be changed on the ground as they come in. People can watch the votes stream in live. For example there was a Dominion employee, high up, at the Detroit Center on the night of the election. He could have watched the votes come in live and manipulated them in that process. It could have run an automatic algorithm against all the votes which we believe is what happened originally and then the machines had to stop and the count had to stop in multiple places because President Trump’s lead was so great at that point that they had to stop the vote counting and come in and backfill the votes they needed to change the results.
Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/scads-evidence-frankly-international-criminal-conspiracy-wow-attorney-sidney-powell-confiscated-servers-germany-video/
“What do we Have to Do to Get the FBI to Wake Up!?” – Rudy Giuliani BLASTS AWOL FBI over Voting Machine Irregularities and Election Fraud
On Thursday Trump Attorney and former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani offered compelling evidence on America’s stolen election. Rudy Giuliani, Attorney Sidney Powell and Attorney Jenna Ellis held a press conference on Thursday to reveal the evidence collected by the Trump campaign on the stolen election.
At one point in the press conference Giuliani went off on the AWOL FBI under the leadership of Chris Wray.
Rudy Giuliani: Where are you FBI? I don’t know where the FBI has been for the last three years. I have no idea where the FBI has been for the last three years, the last four years. Explain to me how the FBI concealed a memo in the hand of Brennan to Obama that Hillary basically made up the Russian collusion plot. They withheld that for four years and cost our country $40 million and two impeachments, one attempted, one actual, one acquittal proceeding. I don’t know where they’ve been. I don’t know where they’ve been on the hard drive. They got it eight, ten months ago. There are clear crimes on it. I don’t know where they are on it now. Our country have had its ballots calculated and manipulated in a foreign country with a company controlled by friends of an enemy of the United States. What do we have to do to get the FBI to wake up!
Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/get-fbi-wake-rudy-giuliani-blasts-awol-fbi-voting-machine-irregularities-election-fraud-video/
“The Anomalies Are So Out of Bounds that the Results Are Not Believable”- Former US Attorney Joe DiGenova on Biden’s Attempted Steal of the 2020 Presidential Election
Former US Attorney Joe DiGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing were on Newsmax with Grant Stintchfield this evening. DiGenova addressed Big Media’s reaction to today’s historical event where he and the Trump Legal Team laid out the evidence of how the Democrats executed the most horrific crime in US history in stealing the 2020 Presidential election from President Trump.
The Democrats’ crimes in this year’s election far surpass their efforts to have President Trump removed as a result of the Mueller criminal investigation (Mueller and his team were criminals). This is a horrible travesty. The Democrats don’t care about the country, they care about power. DiGenova shared about a FOX News reporter’s reaction to their presser and the strategy the Trump Legal team is working on to address the Democrat crimes:
Well, Kristin Fisher and the rest of the FOX team are fools and liars. The news conference today provided ample evidence… What you said is very important, Grant. Statistical analysis. We have statisticians and mathematicians going over the returns that are now in and are available. What they are doing is they are going to show that the anomalies are so out of bounds that the results are not believable. And therefore that is evidence in and of itself.
The Trump team is on the path that makes the most sense. They are addressing the voter fraud with a substantial amount of evidence and then identifying the many vote anomalies that prove Biden couldn’t have made it out of his basement let alone set the record for the most votes ever in a Presidential election.
We’ve daily reported on numerous instances of voter fruad and the statistical anomalies that DiGenova is referring to. The ‘Drop and Roll’ is one of many items we noted that doesn’t make sense.
Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/anomalies-bounds-results-not-believable-former-us-attorney-joe-digenova-bidens-attempted-steal-2020-presidential-election/
Dominion Voting Systems BACKS OUT from Testifying Before Pennsylvania State House Committee — What Are They Hiding? …Update: Presser at 10 AM
Dominion Voting Systems backed out from testifying before a Pennsylvania House Committee on Friday.
https://i.imgur.com/Y4ktdEs.png
Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-dominion-voting-systems-backs-testifying-pennsylvania-state-house-committee-hiding/
PA GOP House Members Hold Presser After Dominion Voting Systems Refuses to Testify Before House Committee
As reported earlier Dominion Voting Systems backed out from testifying before a Pennsylvania House Committee on Friday.
https://i.imgur.com/Rz679BA.png
Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/live-stream-video-pa-gop-house-members-hold-presser-dominion-voting-systems-refuses-testify-house-committee/
This Seems Important – Dominion REFUSED to Testify Before PA House Committee Today — Lawyered Up Instead
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/update-seems-important-dominion-refused-testify-pa-house-committee-today-lawyered-instead/
Kathianne
11-20-2020, 03:27 PM
and with all the truth in possibilities of centralized, Communist led, conspiracy, (note: author has been pro-Trump):
https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/11/20/axios-even-jared-ivanka-distancing-trumps-election-fight/
Axios: Even Jared And Ivanka Are Distancing Themselves From Trump’s Election Fight
ED MORRISSEYPosted at 9:36 am on November 20, 2020
Few reporters have gotten as tied into the White House as Axios’ Jonathan Swan in the Trump years. That might be coming in handier for Swan’s sources than for Swan himself in the meltdown over the election. They’re beginning to practice that well-trodden path of the protective leak, hoping to ironically stay afloat while Donald Trump’s ship sinks, especially after yesterday’s Rudy Giuliani-Sidney Powell presser.
According to Swan’s sources, even his family wants to distance themselves from it:
Most of President Trump’s closest advisers have completely distanced themselves from his legal effort and are avoiding his lawyers to avoid being swept into their courtroom dramas.
Why it matters: Some of the president’s advisers act like they think he can still overturn the election results — because they remain on the payroll and don’t have another choice. But talk to them privately, and many say Rudy Giuliani and his team are on a dead-end path.
The true believers are Giuliani and his sidekicks — Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell — and not many others. Even Jared and Ivanka think this is going nowhere, people who’ve spoken to them told Axios.
The leaks are definitely putting the blame on Giuliani rather than Trump himself, perhaps a sign that these leaks might not be entirely unsanctioned. While there are complaints about the president (including an obsession with Dominion conspiracy theories), Giuliani gets the most blame. Swan’s sources blame Giuliani for the presser, for a lack of a coherent strategy, and even blame Giuliani for Trump’s performance in the first debate against Joe Biden. They’re now blaming Giuliani for ruining their plans to expose Hunter Biden in October by jumping the gun by impulsively giving the hard drive contents to the New York Post.
Byron York reports more broadly about Republican reaction, but his sources also are playing Pin The Tail On The Attorneys more than on the president:
GROWING CONCERN ABOUT TRUMP LEGAL FIGHT: Thursday’s news conference by Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Jenna Ellis marked a turning point of sorts in the way some Republicans view the president’s challenge to election results around the country. Among those Republicans — Trump supporters all — there is concern that the attorneys’ sensational theories of election fraud are hurting the president’s cause rather than helping it.
Most worrisome was Powell’s presentation. … Powell offered nothing to prove what she said happened. Her case appeared to be that it could have happened. Nor has Powell or the rest of the Trump team filed a lawsuit alleging that it actually occurred. In an interview Thursday night with Fox Business Network’s Lou Dobbs, Powell said the Trump team is “still in the process of collecting evidence. It’s coming in in massive amounts…I would think we would have fraud complaints ready sometime by late next week at the latest.” …
The Republicans saw the entire exercise as moving Trump’s case backward, not forward. Yes, there are legitimate legal issues surrounding the campaign. For example, one of the biggest is in Pennsylvania, where the state supreme court unilaterally changed election law that had been rightfully passed by the legislature. But that case will not change the results in Pennsylvania; it is important for elections in the future. And that is not what Giuliani, Powell, and Ellis are talking about. Without actually making the case, they are talking about a vast conspiracy, directed “from a centralized place,” in Giuliani’s words, to change hundreds of thousands, or millions of votes. By doing so, in the way they are doing it, they are losing support rather than making gains.
If these leaks are just reactions from angry or worried allies, that’s certainly news, albeit of a gossipy sort. However, it sounds as though people around Trump are pushing Giuliani into position as the fall guy when a change of posture is needed by the boss. Thus far, it doesn’t appear that Trump is availing himself of that escape hatch:
However, it’s there in case Trump decides he needs it. And no one should realize that potential more than an old pro like Rudy.
hjmick
11-20-2020, 03:44 PM
It's past time for them to put up, or shut up.
The End.
Kathianne
11-20-2020, 03:48 PM
It's past time for them to put up, or shut up.
The End.
I don't think you nor I will ever qualify for the far right card. I know we won't qualify for the liberal cards. Funny how I like so many that are though towards one extreme of the other, at least more than I like most moderates. LOL! Real moderates though are harder and harder to come by.
hjmick
11-20-2020, 03:50 PM
I don't think you nor I will ever qualify for the far right card. I know we won't qualify for the liberal cards. Funny how I like so many that are though towards one extreme of the other, at least more than I like most moderates. LOL! Real moderates though are harder and harder to come by.
To be sure, true moderates of either stripe are a dying breed.
I think they would be the best bet to draw this country back together, but sadly the extremes make the most noise and the squeaky wheel gets the grease...
jimnyc
11-20-2020, 04:01 PM
I don't think you nor I will ever qualify for the far right card. I know we won't qualify for the liberal cards. Funny how I like so many that are though towards one extreme of the other, at least more than I like most moderates. LOL! Real moderates though are harder and harder to come by.
I'm admittedly a chicken hawk as I like to call myself. :) I dunno, but folks know where I stand. Very far right, but judge things on an individual basis.
But as far right as I may be - it is as simple as asking for direct proof, lay your cards out, come on our show and tell the world, and it simply appears that they don't have the goods, as much I wish they would. When it comes to any topic, no matter where I may stand, facts are still #1. They may well see a lot of these anomalies and perhaps there are 'abilities' of this software as I said - and perhaps that alone is enough for some.
Not for me. I post everything to share at this stage and let others make up their own minds. I've made my position thus far clear. And while the integrity of our election isn't stellar right now, and I know mucho cheating has occurred and much more - I don't see the evidence piling up enough to change anything. There is that remote chance based on the smaller vote separation in the states up for debate - but that doesn't change the fact that I don't see the facts or evidence from them yet.
Kathianne
11-20-2020, 04:41 PM
Yeah, today it seems I am choosing, I've been getting there for awhile. If not for all the appearances of chicanery, probably would have been at this point sooner. For me, putting a check on the progressives is the best we can do and I do fear that the President's behavior is making the soon to come GA Senate elections more difficult to win. Indeed, it may well be that the Dems aren't going to have to do much, to just put an end to the nonsense. A different version of 'staying in the basement' for this point in time. Williamson is Never Trump, I get that, doesn't make him wrong in this case though.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-dumbest-coup/
POLITICS & POLICY
‘The Dumbest Coup’
By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON
November 19, 2020 3:05 PM
Noah Rothman’s excellent piece in Commentary, “The Dumbest of Coups,” deserves to be widely read.
I’ve been writing about conspiracy theories for a while now — QAnon, the Flat-Earth gang, etc. — and one of the things you quickly learn about conspiracy theories is that every conspiracy theory is, in some part, every other conspiracy theory: They all overlap, in part or entirely.
Donald Trump has always been a conspiracy kook — vaccines, 9/11, Obama’s birth certificate, etc. — and he came into the presidency retailing a conspiracy theory: Let’s not forget that he also claimed that the 2016 election was illegitimate, that he’d actually won the popular vote but that electoral fraud had made it appear otherwise. Trump is a conspiracy kook who surrounded himself with other conspiracy kooks and cultivated kooky impulses in his aides, meaning that he is a kook in himself and the cause of kookery in others. The new Dominion-based conspiracy theory is only a variation on a longstanding theme.
And what we are seeing now, in the twilight of Trump’s kookery, is the merger of QAnon, the Republican Party, and the large part of the conservative movement that earns its bread by peddling miracle veggie pills to gullible elderly people on the radio. When I first starting writing about QAnon, some conservatives scoffed that it wasn’t a significant phenomenon, that it had no real influence on the Republican Party or conservative politics. That is obviously untrue. Rather than ask whether conspiracy kookery is relevant to Republican politics at this moment, it would be better to ask if there is anything else to Republican politics at this moment. And maybe there is, but not much.
This raises some uncomfortable questions for conservatives. One of those questions is: How long are we going to keep pretending that this madness isn’t madness? Another is: How long will we continue to pretend that what’s being broadcast by Fox News and talk radio is political commentary rather than the most shameful, irresponsible, and unpatriotic kind of sycophantic for-profit propaganda? A third is: What exactly is the benefit — for our ideas, and for the country — of making common cause with these lunatics and hucksters?
The answer the Trumpists used to give was: winning. But Trump didn’t win. He lost to Joe Biden, who hardly even bothered to campaign against him. He may very well end up costing Republicans control of the Senate. He has a better chance of being indicted on criminal charges and/or returning once more to bankruptcy court than he does of serving a second term as president.
Ronald Reagan spoke of “a time for choosing.” It’s that time again.
SassyLady
11-20-2020, 05:37 PM
I'm just amazed at how many want to cut short the process by calling anyone who questions it a conspiracist...... seems to be crying wolf too loud. This is not the first time the vote has been questioned.
I would be more convinced if the count was closer, but to believe that Biden, oldest candidate in history with 47 years of doing nothing, failed in his run for president twice before, campaigned out of his basement could get more votes than any candidate in history? More than Obama? More than Clinton? Really? Can't fathom it.
It might undermine trust in our election process to push the Dominion aspect, but I'd rather have the truth than worry about upsetting the applecart. We know elections have been rigged in other countries ... why do we think bad actors can't do it here? I mean, for 4 years we heard Russia collusion from every corner of the spectrum.
Kathianne
11-20-2020, 05:50 PM
I'm just amazed at how many want to cut short the process by calling anyone who questions it a conspiracist...... seems to be crying wolf too loud. This is not the first time the vote has been questioned.
I would be more convinced if the count was closer, but to believe that Biden, oldest candidate in history with 47 years of doing nothing, failed in his run for president twice before, campaigned out of his basement could get more votes than any candidate in history? More than Obama? More than Clinton? Really? Can't fathom it.
It might undermine trust in our election process to push the Dominion aspect, but I'd rather have the truth than worry about upsetting the applecart. We know elections have been rigged in other countries ... why do we think bad actors can't do it here? I mean, for 4 years we heard Russia collusion from every corner of the spectrum.
I’ve not questioned the righteous of questioning the results, in this case more than justified. What I question is the cart before the horse or rather more than two weeks of accusations and chasing insignificant numbers given the time span.
Indeed if if there is proof after the huge accusations made, particularly yesterday, bring it, recapture the White House and move quickly to uncover such a conspiracy.
Instead the effort seems only to be to further undermine the people’s very tenuous belief in the system. We’ve spent more than 4 years arguing that is what happened by the left against Trump.
LongTermGuy
11-20-2020, 05:52 PM
"Dominion Fails to Appear at Pennsylvania Hearing"
"You begin to wonder, the more you learn, begin to wonder about all the elections that we’ve had. I don’t know. It makes perfect since if you’re rapidly losing faith.
They’ve been perfecting this for I don’t know how many years. Dominion Voting Systems is gonna reassure the public. Sidney Powell is all full of it. Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, they’re all full of. You can’t believe what they’re saying."
Dominion Voting Systems was gonna reassure us that the election was fair and legal.
And how were they gonna do that? Well, they backed out of a Pennsylvania state House hearing and they’ve lawyered up.
Do you realize there are a lot of bloggers out there, there’s a lot of snarky Never Trumper bloggers out there, conservative, snarky, who believe this Dominion stuff is a bunch of garbage, a bunch of caca.
It’s a bunch of hoo hoo. They were thinking that going down the Dominion hole was a dry hole.
**Pay attention here:
“Come on, Rudy, come on, Sidney, you got better than this.” Except now Dominion’s fleeing the jurisdiction. Their employees are packing up and leaving for parts unknown.!!
They’re backing out of a promise to appear before a Pennsylvania state House hearing. Instead they’re lawyering up. They back out of answering questions that they’re gonna have to answer.
Again, Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night, last night, backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for this morning with the Pennsylvania House state government committee.
*** At a press conference Friday morning, the state government committee chair, Seth Grove, said that the 1.3 million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion’s voting machines have been hung out to dry and slapped in their faces.
Pennsylvania lawmakers had scheduled the hearing with the voting machine manufacturer to help identify and correct any irregularities in the election process.
**Dominion was gonna show up and explain to everybody why there was nothing to see here, that this business of the machines being used to find fake votes only for Biden, get rid of Trump, but nothing to see here, didn’t happen. They were gonna assure everybody, they were gonna show everybody, except they fled the jurisdiction!
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/APP-110520-Traverse-City-mail.jpg
They were gonna help identify, correct any irregularities in the election process.
They had initially agreed to attend the hearing before it abruptly canceled.
This according to Seth Grove, who then blasted the company for retreating into the darkness rather than appearing at the hearing with honesty and integrity.
So you think this is gonna allay anybody’s suspicions, or is it just gonna further arouse them?
Dinesh D’Souza early this morning tweeted out that the votes show statistical patterns that are unexplainable except by fraud
. These Democrat cities have a history of fraud. The machines were created to produce fraud. They were created in Venezuela by people who conduct fraudulent elections.
There are innumerable affidavits alleging fraud, meaning the Sidney Powell legal team has interviewed essentially whistleblowers.
***Those interviews have resulted in affidavits alleging fraud — that’s evidence — whistleblowers testified to the fraud. “If that’s not evidence, what is it?” people are beginning to ask."
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/11/20/dominion-fails-to-appear-at-pennsylvania-hearing/
jimnyc
11-20-2020, 05:54 PM
I'm just amazed at how many want to cut short the process by calling anyone who questions it a conspiracist...... seems to be crying wolf too loud. This is not the first time the vote has been questioned.
I would be more convinced if the count was closer, but to believe that Biden, oldest candidate in history with 47 years of doing nothing, failed in his run for president twice before, campaigned out of his basement could get more votes than any candidate in history? More than Obama? More than Clinton? Really? Can't fathom it.
It might undermine trust in our election process to push the Dominion aspect, but I'd rather have the truth than worry about upsetting the applecart. We know elections have been rigged in other countries ... why do we think bad actors can't do it here? I mean, for 4 years we heard Russia collusion from every corner of the spectrum.
I couldn't agree more there. It DOESN'T add up, but whatever had him come out on top is unfortunately not being found. I would love for them to have done so and report it to the nation on the democrats, and maybe Sidney still will, but I think myself if they had anything solid - release it. That's my only issue, while I support Trump and his efforts, and while things don't add up, I don't see anything that shows massive cheating either.
And if they were to offer it tomorrow, they would have 100% of my support and that would change things. But I keep thinking that and keep hoping, but time is ticking away.
From what I understand and see, that's what this software is capable of and designed to do elsewhere. Rig an election and/or change things if someone is losing. Lots of people finding supposed anomalies in the numbers but nothing is sticking apparently.
I WOULD continue to push about this software regardless. It needs to go IMO.
Kathianne
11-20-2020, 05:55 PM
I read that Dominion had lawyered up as I was leaving for work.
It is the best talking point I’ve seen in days. Now get to court and connect dots. There’s only days to do so.
jimnyc
11-20-2020, 05:59 PM
Post #4 has a good synopsis of the latest with the Dominion issue. Thought I posted the one about not showing and lawyering up, but had many tabs open.
Not sure why they wouldn't show or feel the need to have representation.
Kathianne
11-20-2020, 06:09 PM
Post #4 has a good synopsis of the latest with the Dominion issue. Thought I posted the one about not showing and lawyering up, but had many tabs open.
Not sure why they wouldn't show or feel the need to have representation.
I’d guess they either have something to hide OR thy are seriously concerned about litigious person before being president. Trying to be fair. Lawsuits, even when not guilty of wrongdoing, are very expensive.
SassyLady
11-20-2020, 06:19 PM
I’ve not questioned the righteous of questioning the results, in this case more than justified. What I question is the cart before the horse or rather more than two weeks of accusations and chasing insignificant numbers given the time span.
Indeed if if there is proof after the huge accusations made, particularly yesterday, bring it, recapture the White House and move quickly to uncover such a conspiracy.
Instead the effort seems only to be to further undermine the people’s very tenuous belief in the system. We’ve spent more than 4 years arguing that is what happened by the left against Trump.
Yeah, I too want this to move forward with something concrete. Hope those servers got into the good guys hands before they were wiped.
Do we really use servers in Germany and Spain to count votes? That alone needs to change. Why aren't the election servers locked up in Ft. Knox or somewhere like that.
Kathianne
11-21-2020, 11:49 AM
Keeping to the process, while trying to find any proof of wrongdoing.
As I've said repeatedly, one can back challenging the results, look for proof of wrongdoing, even hypothesize about what may have happened, but it should not be the President that is throwing shade. He should appear at the very least, as supporting the system of government if people are not to lose confidence, letting his lawyers and supporters work at finding the proof. If not done in time, they can keep at it, again that's part of the system. Truth will eventually will out:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-governor-calls-for-audit-of-signatures-on-ballot-envelopes_3588017.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-11-21
Check the date, it's from a year ago:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/chinese-parts-hidden-ownership-growing-scrutiny-inside-america-s-biggest-n1104516
Related:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/11/19/whoa-nearly-a-third-of-democrats-believe-the-election-was-stolen-from-trump-n1160882
https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/64105.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/what_a_computer_expert_said_about_voting_results_i n_michigan.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/big_data_to_the_rescue_the_electoral_college_meets _data_pattern_science.html
jimnyc
11-21-2020, 03:13 PM
Keeping to the process, while trying to find any proof of wrongdoing.
As I've said repeatedly, one can back challenging the results, look for proof of wrongdoing, even hypothesize about what may have happened, but it should not be the President that is throwing shade. He should appear at the very least, as supporting the system of government if people are not to lose confidence, letting his lawyers and supporters work at finding the proof. If not done in time, they can keep at it, again that's part of the system. Truth will eventually will out:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-governor-calls-for-audit-of-signatures-on-ballot-envelopes_3588017.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-11-21
Check the date, it's from a year ago:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/chinese-parts-hidden-ownership-growing-scrutiny-inside-america-s-biggest-n1104516
Related:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/11/19/whoa-nearly-a-third-of-democrats-believe-the-election-was-stolen-from-trump-n1160882
https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/64105.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/what_a_computer_expert_said_about_voting_results_i n_michigan.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/11/big_data_to_the_rescue_the_electoral_college_meets _data_pattern_science.html
Too much smoke for there to not have a fire somewhere. And that fire is within. And known. So can simply be implemented and then deactivated. Unless you know for sure and can prove it, good luck. Log fils from the actual places it was ran would help. But anyone with a brain doing something similar would at least cover their tracks by deleting logs and such.
jimnyc
11-21-2020, 06:24 PM
A supporter writes:
Powell is saving her evidence for court rather than revealing it to the media first
Not sure this is the case. What court, what case & when? I just hear about all of this but see nothing panning out and nothing playing out. I'd be thrilled if this were the case - but I believe if they had such revealing info - they would be waiting on the steps to the SC, or at least I would be. It's 11/21 and not getting any earlier. Another reason why I think they would just release the damn info.
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Tucker Carlson gives 'update' after segment on Sidney Powell, voter fraud draws backlash
Tucker Carlson has issued an "update" after a segment on his Fox News show about voter fraud allegations drew backlash.
On Thursday night, Carlson delivered a monologue in which he discussed President Donald Trump's attorney Sidney Powell and her claims that rigged voting software switched millions of votes from Trump to Joe Biden in the 2020 election.
According to Carlson, Powell refused to send him evidence supporting her claims, despite multiple requests from "Tucker Carlson Tonight."
"When we kept pressing, she got angry and told us to stop contacting her," Carlson said in the Thursday segment. "When we checked with others around the Trump campaign, people in positions of authority, they told us Powell has never given them any evidence either, nor did she provide any today at the press conference."
Earlier this month, a national coalition announced there is no evidence that any voting software deleted or changed votes in the election, per USA TODAY. The security group — which includes the Department of Homeland Security's Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency and the National Association of State Election Directors — described the election as "the most secure in American history."
"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised," the coalition concluded.
Carlson's comments drew backlash from Trump's supporters online, who argued Powell is saving her evidence for court rather than revealing it to the media first.
The Fox News host later updated his statement on Powell, in a clip shared to his Twitter account Friday.
https://i.imgur.com/XQnBFxQ.png
An update on our reporting on Sidney Powell’s voter fraud investigation," he wrote. "Watch."
In the clip, Carlson said that Powell's refusal to provide evidence does not mean her claims are false.
"It doesn't mean it didn't happen," he said. "It might have happened. It means they haven't seen any evidence that it happened. And by 'they,' we are including other members of Donald Trump's own legal team."
Carlson also brought up that Powell has "suggested we may not have to wait much longer" for evidence.
A rep for Fox News confirmed to USA TODAY on Friday that Powell, as well as Rudy Giuliani, another of Trump's lawyers, both canceled their appearances on that network's program "Justice With Judge Jeanine," with host Jeanine Pirro, scheduled for Saturday.
Rest - https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/tucker-carlson-gives-segment-sidney-044712223.html
Kathianne
11-21-2020, 08:32 PM
Yup, they don’t have to show anything to news, people, etc.
Then again they certainly don’t and shouldn’t give out statements about conspiracies, stolen elections, etc.
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