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jimnyc
12-01-2020, 01:40 PM
She was the young star in the movie "Juno". "Hard Candy" was earlier than that and actually a better movie IMO, but didn't garner as much attention. Haven't seen her in much else myself but saw her in the news every now and again. Her other movies just weren't my cup of tea.

She came out as a lesbian in early 2014. Now she comes out as transgender. But also claims to be "non-binary" and neither a woman or a man. :rolleyes:

No skin off my back and I don't have an issue with transgender folks out there. I'm just not a fan of it myself, and I think genders remain the same & now they are just making some serious changes to their lifestyles.

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Oscar-Nominated ‘Umbrella Academy’ Star Elliot Page Announces He Is Transgender

Elliot Page, the Oscar-nominated star of “Juno” and Netflix’s “The Umbrella Academy,” has announced he is transgender.

Elliot, formerly known as Ellen Page, addressed his social media followers saying:

“Hi friends, I want to share with you that I am trans, my pronouns are he/they and my name is Elliot. I feel lucky to be writing this. To be here. To have arrived at this place in my life. I feel overwhelming gratitude for the incredible people who have supported me along this journey. I can’t begin to express how remarkable it feels to finally love who I am enough to pursue my authentic self. I’ve been endlessly inspired by so many in the trans community. Thank you for your courage, your generosity and ceaselessly working to make this world a more inclusive and compassionate place. I will offer whatever support I can and continue to strive for a more loving and equal society,” he wrote.

“I love that I am trans. And I love that I am queer. And the more I hold myself close and fully embrace who I am, the more I dream, the more my heart grows and the more I thrive. To all the trans people who deal with harassment, self-loathing, abuse, and the threat of violence every day: I see you, I love you, and I will do everything I can to change this world for the better,” Page continued.

Page uses both he/him and they/them pronouns, and describes himself as transgender and non-binary, meaning that their gender identity is neither man nor woman.

Nick Adams, GLAAD’s Director of Transgender Media, said “Elliot Page has given us fantastic characters on-screen, and has been an outspoken advocate for all LGBTQ people. He will now be an inspiration to countless trans and non-binary people. All transgender people deserve the chance to be ourselves and to be accepted for who we are. We celebrate the remarkable Elliot Page today.”

Page broke out from his native Canada in 2005 with the revenge thriller “Hard Candy.” Two years later, he starred in Jason Reitman and Diablo Cody’s landmark indie “Juno,” for which Page received an Academy Award nomination among other accolades.

His notable roles include Kitty Pryde in the “X-Men” series, Christopher Nolan’s “Inception,” “Whip It!” and Sony’s reboot of “Flatliners.” He has produced and starred in films such as “Tallulah” and “Freeheld,” and last year marked his directorial debut examining environmental racism faced by people of color and the First Nations communities of Canada.

Prior to transition, Page was one of the most visible out gay actors in Hollywood. The Tuesday announcement further enriches his legacy, and adds him to a small but growing number of out trans creators and stars in Hollywood. This includes performers (Laverne Cox, Trace Lysette, Brian Michael Smith) and creators (The Wachowski Sisters, “Transparent” creator Joey Soloway).

Last year, Variety broke the news of the groundbreaking overall content production deal that Netflix signed with Janet Mock, a noted trans storyteller and director of shows like “Pose” and “Hollywood.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/oscar-nominated-umbrella-academy-star-171441548.html

LongTermGuy
12-01-2020, 01:49 PM
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Mr. P
12-01-2020, 07:37 PM
...Page uses both he/him and they/them pronouns, and describes himself as transgender and non-binary, ...
I am sorry but chromosomes tell a different story. Just sayin

jimnyc
12-01-2020, 09:02 PM
...Page uses both he/him and they/them pronouns, and describes himself as transgender and non-binary, ...
I am sorry but chromosomes tell a different story. Just sayin

That's what I'm saying. She's a lesbian, and lesbians are women into other women.

Then she's transgender and changes her name from Ellen to Elliot Page. So she identifies with a different gender than she was assigned at birth. One would think this is of the male gender, knowing she now wants to be called Elliot. Wants to use "he/they". Well, at least the he portion points to male and would go along with the new name. But then I read that she prefers "he/him and they/them". He and him pointing to male and Elliot. And they and them is weirdly sounding like 3rd person. But then says she is "transgender and non-binary, meaning that their gender identity is neither man nor woman". So, now adds in "their", and even though she went from Juno as a female, and now to Elliot and "he/him" as a male - that she is neither man or woman.

She has officially confused the fuck out of me! Damn, and that's just a few too. And then there were something like "57 genders" suddenly.

Not anymore!! That was so 2016, now it's 112!! :wtf99:

Here are all of them listed alphabetically with a description:
Abimegender: a gender that is profound, deep, and infinite; meant to resemble when one mirror is reflecting into another mirror creating an infinite paradox.
Adamasgender: a gender that refuses to be categorized.
Aerogender: a gender that is influenced by your surroundings.
Aesthetigender: a gender that is derived from an aesthetic; also known as videgender.
Affectugender: a gender that is affected by mood swings.
Agender: the feeling of no gender/absence of gender or neutral gender.
Agenderflux: being mostly agender except having small shifts towards other genders making them demigenders (because of the constancy of being agender).
Alexigender: a gender that is fluid between more than one gender but the individual cannot tell what those genders are.
Aliusgender: a gender that is removed from common gender descriptors and guidelines.
Amaregender: a gender that changes depending on who you’re in love with.
Ambigender: defined as having the feeling of two genders simultaneously without fluctuation; meant to reflect the concept of being ambidextrous, only with gender.
Ambonec: identifying as both man and woman, yet neither at the same time.
Amicagender: a gender that changes depending on which friend you’re with.
Androgyne: sometimes used in the case of “androgynous presentation”; describes the feeling of being a mix of both masculine and feminine (and sometimes neutral) gender qualities.
Anesigender: feeling like a certain gender yet being more comfortable identifying with another.
Angenital: a desire to be without primary sexual characteristics, without necessarily being genderless; one may be both angenital and identify as any other gender alongside.
Anogender: a gender that fades in and out but always comes back to the same feeling.
Anongender: a gender that is unknown to both yourself and others.
Antegender: a protean gender which has the potential to be anything, but is formless and motionless, and therefore, does not manifest as any particular gender.
Anxiegender: a gender that is affected by anxiety.
Apagender: a feeling of apathy towards one’s gender which leads to them not looking any further into it.
Apconsugender: a gender where you know what it isn’t, but not what it is; the gender is hiding itself from you.
Astergender: a gender that feels bright and celestial.
Astralgender: a gender that feels connected to space.
Autigender: a gender that can only be understood in the context of being autistic (POSSIBLE TRIGGER WARNING).
Autogender: a gender experience that is deeply personal to oneself.
Axigender: when a person experiences two genders that sit on opposite ends of an axis; one being agender and the other being any other gender; these genders are experienced one at a time with no overlapping and with very short transition time.
Bigender: the feeling of having two genders either at the same time or separately; usually used to describe feeling “traditionally male” and “traditionally female”, but does not have to.
Biogender: a gender that feels connected to nature in some way.
Blurgender: the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with genderfuzz.
Boyflux: when one feels mostly or all male most of the time but experience fluctuating intensity of male identity.
Burstgender: and gender that comes in intense bursts of feeling and quickly fades back to the original state.
Caelgender: a gender that shares qualities with outer space or has the aesthetic of space, stars, nebulas, etc.
Cassgender: the feeling of gender is unimportant to you.
Cassflux: when the level of indifference towards your gender fluctuates.
Cavusgender: for people with depression; when you feel one gender when not depressed and another when depressed.
Cendgender: when your gender changes between one and its opposite.
Ceterofluid: when you are ceterogender and your feelings fluctuate between masculine, feminine, and neutral.
Ceterogender: a nonbinary gender with specific masculine, feminine, or neutral feelings.
Cisgender: the feeling of being the gender you were assigned at birth, all the time (assigned (fe)male/feeling (fe)male).
Cloudgender: a gender that cannot be fully realized or seen clearly due to depersonalization/derealization disorder.
Collgender: the feeling of having too many genders simultaneously to describe each one.
Colorgender: a gender associated with one or more colors and the feelings, hues, emotions, and/or objects associated with that color; may be used like pinkgender, bluegender, yellowgender.
Commogender: when you know you aren’t cisgender, but you settled with your assigned gender for the time being.
Condigender: a gender that is only felt during certain circumstances.
Deliciagender: from the Latin word Delicia meaning “favorite”, meaning the feeling of having more than one simultaneous gender yet preferring one that fits better.
Demifluid: the feeling your gender being fluid throughout all the demigenders; the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluid.
Demiflux: the feeling of having multiple genders, some static and some fluctuating.
Demigender: a gender that is partially one gender and partially another.
Domgender: having more than one gender yet one being more dominant than the others.
Duragender: from the Latin word dura meaning “long-lasting”, meaning a subcategory of multigender in which one gender is more identifiable, long-lasting, and prominent than the other genders.
Egogender: a gender that is so personal to your experience that it can only be described as “you”.
Epicene: sometimes used synonymously with the adjective “androgynous”; the feeling of either having or not displaying characteristics of both or either binary gender; sometimes used to describe feminine male-identifying individuals.
Espigender: a gender that is related to being a spirit or exists on a higher or extradimensional plane.
Exgender: the outright refusal to accept or identify in, on, or around the gender spectrum.
Existigender: a gender that only exists or feels present when thought about or when a conscious effort is made to notice it.
Femfluid: having fluctuating or fluid gender feelings that are limited to feminine genders.
Femgender: a nonbinary gender which is feminine in nature.
Fluidflux: the feeling of being fluid between two or more genders that also fluctuate in intensity; a combination of genderfluid and genderflux.
Gemigender: having two opposite genders that work together, being fluid and flux together.
Genderblank: a gender that can only be described as a blank space; when gender is called into question, all that comes to mind is a blank space.
Genderflow: a gender that is fluid between infinite feelings.
Genderfluid: the feeling of fluidity within your gender identity; feeling a different gender as time passes or as situations change; not restricted to any number of genders.
Genderflux: the feeling of your gender fluctuating in intensity; like genderfluid but between one gender and agender.
Genderfuzz: coined by lolzmelmel; the feeling of having more than one gender that are somehow blurred together to the point of not being able to distinguish or identify individual genders; synonymous with blurgender.
Gender Neutral: the feeling of having a neutral gender, whether somewhere in between masculine and feminine or a third gender that is separate from the binary; often paired with neutrois.
Genderpunk: a gender identity that actively resists gender norms.
Genderqueer: originally used as an umbrella term for nonbinary individuals; it may be used as an identity; it describes a nonbinary gender regardless of whether the individual is masculine or feminine leaning.
Genderwitched: a gender in which one is intrigued or entranced by the idea of a particular gender, but is not certain that they are actually feeling it.
Girlflux: when one feels mostly or all female most of the time but experiences fluctuating intensities of female identity.
Glassgender: a gender that is very sensitive and fragile.
Glimragender: a faintly shining, wavering gender.
Greygender: having a gender that is mostly outside of the binary but is weak and can barely be felt.
Gyragender: having multiple genders but understanding none of them.
Healgender: a gender that once realized, brings lots of peace, clarity, security, and creativity to the individual’s mind.
Heliogender: a gender that is warm and burning.
Hemigender: a gender that is half one gender and half something else; one or both halves may be identifiable genders.
Horogender: a gender that changes over time with the core feeling of remaining the same.
Hydrogender: a gender that shares qualities with water.
Imperigender: a fluid gender that can be controlled by the individual.
Intergender: the feeling of gender falling somewhere on the spectrum between masculine and feminine; note: do not confuse with intersex.
Juxera: a feminine gender similar to girl, but on a separate plane and off to itself.
Libragender: a gender that feels agender but has a strong connection to another gender.
Magigender: a gender that is mostly gender and the rest is something else.
Mascfluid: A gender that is fluid in nature, and restricted only to masculine genders.
Mascgender: a non-binary gender which is masculine in nature.
Maverique: taken from the word maverick; the feeling of having a gender that is separate from masculinity, femininity, and neutrality, but is not agender; a form of a third gender.
Mirrorgender: a gender that changes to fit the people around you.
Molligender: a gender that is soft, subtle, and subdued.
Multigender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigender and omnigender.
Nanogender: feeling a small part of one gender with the rest being something else.
Neutrois: the feeling of having a neutral gender; sometimes a lack of gender that leads to feeling neutral.
Nonbinary: originally an umbrella term for any gender outside the binary of cisgenders; may be used as an individual identity; occasionally used alongside of genderqueer.
Omnigender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigender and polygender.
Oneirogender: coined by anonymous, “being agender, but having recurring fantasies or daydreams of being a certain gender without the dysphoria or desire to actually be that gender day-to-day”.
Pangender: the feeling of having every gender; this is considered problematic by some communities and thus has been used as the concept of relating in some way to all genders as opposed to containing every gender identity; only applies to genders within one’s own culture.
Paragender: the feeling very near one gender and partially something else which keeps you from feeling fully that gender.
Perigender: identifying with gender but not as a gender.
Polygender: the feeling of having more than one simultaneous or fluctuating gender; simultaneous with multigender and omnigender.
Proxvir: a masculine gender similar to a boy, but on a separate plane and off to itself.
Quoigender: feeling as if the concept of gender is inapplicable or nonsensical to one’s self.
Subgender: mostly a gender with a bit of another gender.
Surgender: having a gender that is 100% one gender but with more of another gender added on top of that.
Systemgender: a gender that is the sum of all the genders within a multiple or median system.
Tragender: a gender that stretches over the whole spectrum of genders.
Transgender: any gender identity that transcends or does not align with your assigned gender or society’s idea of gender; the feeling of being any gender that does not match your assigned gender.
Trigender: the feeling of having three simultaneous or fluctuating genders.
Vapogender: a gender that sort of feels like smoke; it can be seen on a shallow level but once you go deeper, it disappears and you are left with no gender and only tiny wisps of what you thought it was.
Venngender: when two genders overlap creating an entirely new gender; like a Venn diagram.
Verangender: a gender that seems to shift/change the moment it is identified.
Vibragender: a gender that is usually one stable gender but will occasionally change or fluctuate before stabilizing again.
Vocigender: a gender that is weak or hollow.

https://dudeasks.com/how-many-genders-are-there-in-2020/

Abbey Marie
12-02-2020, 11:39 AM
Presto chango, I’m a man! And the lemmings all start calling her “He”. What a country we live in.

Btw, she says she’s male and gay. Since it appears she is still biologically female, isn’t she still a woman sleeping with men? I mean, since she’s a he and gay.

jimnyc
12-02-2020, 04:41 PM
Presto chango, I’m a man! And the lemmings all start calling her “He”. What a country we live in.

Btw, she says she’s male and gay. Since it appears she is still biologically female, isn’t she still a woman sleeping with men? I mean, since she’s a he and gay.

As far as I'm concerned she is Juno Page as I've always known her prior and I'll refer to her as a her.

Mr. P
12-02-2020, 05:32 PM
As far as I'm concerned she is Juno Page as I've always known her prior and I'll refer to her as a her.

That's how I feel about Bruce Jenner. Was a man, is a man and will always be a man regardless of how he presents himself.