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jimnyc
12-12-2020, 02:56 PM
Absolutely right to doubt things based on unexplainable anomalies. But never did find the detailed proof of what they wanted. But lots of other fraud happened as well and has been found, and fixing is needed.

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Trump Supporters Right to Doubt Election

Some accuse Trump supporters of manufacturing allegations of voter fraud out of whole cloth and resisting the presidential election results in response to their supposed cult leader’s wishes. As usual, President Donald Trump is the villain and his supporters are complicit.

But again, the Trump-hating critics are wrong. Nationwide GOP distrust and outrage over the election is a grassroots phenomenon. Trump supporters did not take their cue from Trump. They witnessed the numerous anomalies on election night and beyond and recognized mischief when they saw it.

Am I saying the election was stolen? Well, I firmly believe that massive cheating occurred, especially in the so-called swing states. I can’t be sure whether there was enough to change the outcome of the election, though I strongly suspect it.

Millions of Americans don’t just strongly suspect it; they are sure of it. You should see my emails — not from fringers but sober, reasonable people. They are not, as some Trump haters have charged, trying to steal the election themselves by throwing out bogus claims of election fraud.

That doesn’t even make sense. It would be pointless for them to knowingly allege unprovable election fraud with any expectation of reversing the election in court. Conservative, originalist judges wouldn’t do that without compelling evidence, and even then, they may not because of the monumental gravity of such an action. Dishonest advocates might falsely allege voter fraud for partisan reasons, such as to delegitimize President-elect Joe Biden, but not to steal back the election.

A large percentage of Republicans, and a surprising percentage of Democrats, genuinely believe Democrats stole the election. You don’t have to take my word for it, but if you have any interest in understanding the mindset of Trump supporters, you would be wise to realize they believe they were robbed.

Let me give you some of the many reasons. We all see things through our own lens and filter them through our respective worldviews and presuppositions. But consider what Trump supporters have observed over the past four years and on election night.

— Democrats (and the media) orchestrated and pursued a phony case of Trump-Russia collusion. They’ve investigated and harassed him from the beginning and fraudulently impeached him. - Proven

— Many leftists believe Trump is Hitler — their words, not mine — and, for that reason alone, would cheat to beat him. - Proven, and calling him a nazi was nice compared to the endless list of names applied to him and his supporters alike.

— The legacy media’s reporting on Trump has been almost 100% negative, and it has willfully covered up Democratic corruption, including that of Hunter Biden. - Proven, actually in mid-90%

— Democrats ran for president a man who is clearly in cognitive decline, who didn’t campaign and whom the media insulated from scrutiny. They deceptively presented Joe Biden as moderate and as nothing like the extreme leftists who control his party but couldn’t win a national election if honest about their agenda. Democrats knew Biden would never be the real president and would only be a stand-in for his leftist puppet masters until he could be replaced by Kamala Harris, America’s most liberal senator. Biden unwittingly confirmed this sinister Manchurian scheme recently. Prefacing his remarks with “All kidding aside,” he said that he told “Barack” that while he and Harris agree on most everything, if they later disagree on a matter of moral principle, he will “develop some disease” and resign. This was a chilling admission from a failing loose cannon who, if inaugurated, will have access to the nuclear launch codes — unless his handlers wisely withhold them. - Proven. Cognitive decline is still on display. The media absolutely never questioned things and insulated him.

Social media giants Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Google clearly censored conservatives and overtly interfered with the election. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg contributed $350 million — that’s a third of $1 billion — to get out the Democratic vote. - Proven the censorship over and over

— Mainstream liberal polling outfits showed Biden with absurd leads over Trump. - Proven again

— The leftist-dominated national Democratic Party subscribes to an end-justifies-the-means philosophy, meaning it schemes and cheats to advance its agenda. It has shown this with its fealty to liberal judicial activism; its plan to pack the Supreme Court and add territories as states to gain more Democratic electoral votes; and its crusade to diminish election integrity through opposing voter identification measures, grossly expanding unverifiable mail-in voting under the cover of COVID-19 and falsely accusing Republicans of suppressing the black vote. - Proven as Dems stated themselves they would pack the court, add states & more. Fighting against photo ID and much more is long proven.

— Trump’s explosive popularity is undeniable, as shown by his mega-rallies, which contrasts with Democrats’ utter indifference toward Biden. Trump expanded the GOP base, especially with blacks and Hispanics. Yes, many people hate Trump, but not enough to get millions of unengaged people who never voted before — millions more than voted for former President Barack Obama — to vote for Biden.

— On election night, Trump was way ahead. Vote counting was stopped in the middle of the night in certain pivotal states, and Biden surged way ahead by morning. Kraken aside, this is suspicious on its face and even more so considering the reported ballot drops in select cities in those states. Statisticians have questioned the statistical unlikelihood of this dramatic vote reversal, even accounting for more mail-in ballots among Democrats. I frankly don’t know what to make of this theory, but it certainly catches one’s eye. - Proven that counting continued. And the rest is mainly circumstantial.

— Hundreds of affidavits throughout the country allege vast voter fraud. It’s impossible to know for sure what happened, but reasonable Trump supporters — and many Democrats — view these events most skeptically.

— Republicans performed extraordinarily well in congressional races, yet Trump fell behind them in certain swing states. Scoffers say this is due to Trump’s off-putting manner, which we’re told particularly offends suburban women. But these same people say Trump ruined the GOP. OK, so how did his ruined party outperform him? We had the equivalent of one of the greatest coattail effects in the modern era, and yet we are to believe that the owner of that coat didn’t benefit from his own coat? Why would those who hated him reward his party — a party that has been extremely loyal to him? Truth be told, many who hate Trump are contemptuous of his supporters. - Proven, at least that the downvotes profited nicely. Also that at times Biden votes had ZERO downvotes. The rest doesn't add up, but not making sense won't win a court case.

I can’t possibly know how much the Democratic Party cheated in this election, but I have given you ample reasons to understand why millions are highly suspicious and many among them are further convinced the cheating changed the outcome of the election.

If President Trump’s challenges fail in court, it won’t necessarily mean massive cheating didn’t occur. It could mean any number of other things: that his lawyers couldn’t quantitatively prove sufficient cheating after the fact, that no viable legal remedy was available, that procedural hurdles (like laches) precluded consideration of the case on the merits or that the Supreme Court didn’t want to inject itself into a political question. - All mainly did fail in court. But fraud happened more so than ever before and proven already. Just nothing nor enough to overturn things. So a lot of work ahead in building back our integrity, and wholesale change in our system, IMO.

But be assured that people are rightly concerned and brushing them off as partisan crazies will do nothing to mollify them, especially when Democrats have telegraphed their intention of rigging the system to make future GOP victories increasingly difficult. What a colossal mess!

Please pray for the nation.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-limbaugh/2020/12/11/trump-supporters-right-to-doubt-election-n1203321

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-12-2020, 04:55 PM
Absolutely right to doubt things based on unexplainable anomalies. But never did find the detailed proof of what they wanted. But lots of other fraud happened as well and has been found, and fixing is needed.

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Trump Supporters Right to Doubt Election

Some accuse Trump supporters of manufacturing allegations of voter fraud out of whole cloth and resisting the presidential election results in response to their supposed cult leader’s wishes. As usual, President Donald Trump is the villain and his supporters are complicit.

But again, the Trump-hating critics are wrong. Nationwide GOP distrust and outrage over the election is a grassroots phenomenon. Trump supporters did not take their cue from Trump. They witnessed the numerous anomalies on election night and beyond and recognized mischief when they saw it.

Am I saying the election was stolen? Well, I firmly believe that massive cheating occurred, especially in the so-called swing states. I can’t be sure whether there was enough to change the outcome of the election, though I strongly suspect it.

Millions of Americans don’t just strongly suspect it; they are sure of it. You should see my emails — not from fringers but sober, reasonable people. They are not, as some Trump haters have charged, trying to steal the election themselves by throwing out bogus claims of election fraud.

That doesn’t even make sense. It would be pointless for them to knowingly allege unprovable election fraud with any expectation of reversing the election in court. Conservative, originalist judges wouldn’t do that without compelling evidence, and even then, they may not because of the monumental gravity of such an action. Dishonest advocates might falsely allege voter fraud for partisan reasons, such as to delegitimize President-elect Joe Biden, but not to steal back the election.

A large percentage of Republicans, and a surprising percentage of Democrats, genuinely believe Democrats stole the election. You don’t have to take my word for it, but if you have any interest in understanding the mindset of Trump supporters, you would be wise to realize they believe they were robbed.

Let me give you some of the many reasons. We all see things through our own lens and filter them through our respective worldviews and presuppositions. But consider what Trump supporters have observed over the past four years and on election night.

— Democrats (and the media) orchestrated and pursued a phony case of Trump-Russia collusion. They’ve investigated and harassed him from the beginning and fraudulently impeached him. - Proven

— Many leftists believe Trump is Hitler — their words, not mine — and, for that reason alone, would cheat to beat him. - Proven, and calling him a nazi was nice compared to the endless list of names applied to him and his supporters alike.

— The legacy media’s reporting on Trump has been almost 100% negative, and it has willfully covered up Democratic corruption, including that of Hunter Biden. - Proven, actually in mid-90%

— Democrats ran for president a man who is clearly in cognitive decline, who didn’t campaign and whom the media insulated from scrutiny. They deceptively presented Joe Biden as moderate and as nothing like the extreme leftists who control his party but couldn’t win a national election if honest about their agenda. Democrats knew Biden would never be the real president and would only be a stand-in for his leftist puppet masters until he could be replaced by Kamala Harris, America’s most liberal senator. Biden unwittingly confirmed this sinister Manchurian scheme recently. Prefacing his remarks with “All kidding aside,” he said that he told “Barack” that while he and Harris agree on most everything, if they later disagree on a matter of moral principle, he will “develop some disease” and resign. This was a chilling admission from a failing loose cannon who, if inaugurated, will have access to the nuclear launch codes — unless his handlers wisely withhold them. - Proven. Cognitive decline is still on display. The media absolutely never questioned things and insulated him.

Social media giants Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Google clearly censored conservatives and overtly interfered with the election. Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg contributed $350 million — that’s a third of $1 billion — to get out the Democratic vote. - Proven the censorship over and over

— Mainstream liberal polling outfits showed Biden with absurd leads over Trump. - Proven again

— The leftist-dominated national Democratic Party subscribes to an end-justifies-the-means philosophy, meaning it schemes and cheats to advance its agenda. It has shown this with its fealty to liberal judicial activism; its plan to pack the Supreme Court and add territories as states to gain more Democratic electoral votes; and its crusade to diminish election integrity through opposing voter identification measures, grossly expanding unverifiable mail-in voting under the cover of COVID-19 and falsely accusing Republicans of suppressing the black vote. - Proven as Dems stated themselves they would pack the court, add states & more. Fighting against photo ID and much more is long proven.

— Trump’s explosive popularity is undeniable, as shown by his mega-rallies, which contrasts with Democrats’ utter indifference toward Biden. Trump expanded the GOP base, especially with blacks and Hispanics. Yes, many people hate Trump, but not enough to get millions of unengaged people who never voted before — millions more than voted for former President Barack Obama — to vote for Biden.

— On election night, Trump was way ahead. Vote counting was stopped in the middle of the night in certain pivotal states, and Biden surged way ahead by morning. Kraken aside, this is suspicious on its face and even more so considering the reported ballot drops in select cities in those states. Statisticians have questioned the statistical unlikelihood of this dramatic vote reversal, even accounting for more mail-in ballots among Democrats. I frankly don’t know what to make of this theory, but it certainly catches one’s eye. - Proven that counting continued. And the rest is mainly circumstantial.

— Hundreds of affidavits throughout the country allege vast voter fraud. It’s impossible to know for sure what happened, but reasonable Trump supporters — and many Democrats — view these events most skeptically.

— Republicans performed extraordinarily well in congressional races, yet Trump fell behind them in certain swing states. Scoffers say this is due to Trump’s off-putting manner, which we’re told particularly offends suburban women. But these same people say Trump ruined the GOP. OK, so how did his ruined party outperform him? We had the equivalent of one of the greatest coattail effects in the modern era, and yet we are to believe that the owner of that coat didn’t benefit from his own coat? Why would those who hated him reward his party — a party that has been extremely loyal to him? Truth be told, many who hate Trump are contemptuous of his supporters. - Proven, at least that the downvotes profited nicely. Also that at times Biden votes had ZERO downvotes. The rest doesn't add up, but not making sense won't win a court case.

I can’t possibly know how much the Democratic Party cheated in this election, but I have given you ample reasons to understand why millions are highly suspicious and many among them are further convinced the cheating changed the outcome of the election.

If President Trump’s challenges fail in court, it won’t necessarily mean massive cheating didn’t occur. It could mean any number of other things: that his lawyers couldn’t quantitatively prove sufficient cheating after the fact, that no viable legal remedy was available, that procedural hurdles (like laches) precluded consideration of the case on the merits or that the Supreme Court didn’t want to inject itself into a political question. - All mainly did fail in court. But fraud happened more so than ever before and proven already. Just nothing nor enough to overturn things. So a lot of work ahead in building back our integrity, and wholesale change in our system, IMO.

But be assured that people are rightly concerned and brushing them off as partisan crazies will do nothing to mollify them, especially when Democrats have telegraphed their intention of rigging the system to make future GOP victories increasingly difficult. What a colossal mess!

Please pray for the nation.

https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-limbaugh/2020/12/11/trump-supporters-right-to-doubt-election-n1203321

Allow me to give a simplified version of all this...
THEY CHEATED AND GOT AWAY WITH AS THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE!--Tyr

edit:
And that is exactly why they will destroy this nation, imho.
They are the true enemy of this nation- just that simple and just that tragic..-Tyr

KarlMarx
12-12-2020, 05:20 PM
Close presidential races such as Pennsylvania are similar to a person flipping a coin. Instead of heads or tails, it would be Trump or Biden.

If you flipped a coin 100 times, you would expect it to come up up heads about 50 times, plus or minus 1 or 2.

If you flipped a coin 1 million times, it would come up heads. 500,000 times give or take 1 or 2 percent

Everyday experience tells us that the coin would come up heads roughly 50 percent of the time give or take a small percentage

But, the Pennsylvania coin toss behaved like a normal one for the first seventy five percent of the time. The remaining 25 percent of the tosses came up 95 percent heads.... what is the possibility of that happening?

Consider The 100 coin toss example.. the odds of heads coming up 25 times in a row 95 percent of the time.... 0.95 x 2 raised to the 25th power roughly 1:32 million

Now, extend this to the Pennsylvania election... what are the odds of the last 25 percent of the vote being 95 percent Biden? Roughly 8 million voters are registered in Pennsylvania. So what are the odds of the last 2 million votes being 95 percent for Biden?

Get ready for it....

1 to 0.95 x 2 raised to the 2 MILLIONTH power

The number is so large that it exceeds.... the number of all atoms in the observable universe (that number, by the way is 10 raised to the 78 power, a 1 followed by 78 zeroes)

This is why I started to suspect something wasn’t right...

jimnyc
12-12-2020, 06:36 PM
Close presidential races such as Pennsylvania are similar to a person flipping a coin. Instead of heads or tails, it would be Trump or Biden.

If you flipped a coin 100 times, you would expect it to come up up heads about 50 times, plus or minus 1 or 2.

If you flipped a coin 1 million times, it would come up heads. 500,000 times give or take 1 or 2 percent

Everyday experience tells us that the coin would come up heads roughly 50 percent of the time give or take a small percentage

But, the Pennsylvania coin toss behaved like a normal one for the first seventy five percent of the time. The remaining 25 percent of the tosses came up 95 percent heads.... what is the possibility of that happening?

Consider The 100 coin toss example.. the odds of heads coming up 25 times in a row 95 percent of the time.... 0.95 x 2 raised to the 25th power roughly 1:32 million

Now, extend this to the Pennsylvania election... what are the odds of the last 25 percent of the vote being 95 percent Biden? Roughly 8 million voters are registered in Pennsylvania. So what are the odds of the last 2 million votes being 95 percent for Biden?

Get ready for it....

1 to 0.95 x 2 raised to the 2 MILLIONTH power

The number is so large that it exceeds.... the number of all atoms in the observable universe (that number, by the way is 10 raised to the 78 power, a 1 followed by 78 zeroes)

This is why I started to suspect something wasn’t right...

Well said!!

I read many many articles and news articles and watched videos of expert, analysts & math whizzes beyond our comprehension.

Numbers that were nearly impossible to believe, once in a billion year type events, analysts stating similarly that the odds of things in quite a few states that took place, were like 1 in a high billions numbers & trillions too. Those are WAY out of line. Posted here were no less than like 15 of those type articles here somewhere, where the bipartisan wizards shake their heads. I'll gather some other stuff after dinner!

KarlMarx
12-12-2020, 07:32 PM
FWIW... I found a site that raised 2 to the one millionth power, the number is 10 raised to the 301,030 power .... 2 raised to the 2 millionth power is 10 to the 602,060 power, that is a 1 followed by 602,060 zeroes...

If you were to flip a coin once per second, it would take over 10 to the 600,000 years to achieve the Pennsylvania scenario from my previous post. The current age of the universe is 14 billion years (14 times 10 to the 9th power).... in other words, you would need a GOOGOL (10 raised 100 power) raised to the sixth power times the age of the universe to achieve the Pennsylvania scenario

jimnyc
12-12-2020, 07:42 PM
FWIW... I found a site that raised 2 to the one millionth power, the number is 10 raised to the 301,030 power .... 2 raised to the 2 millionth power is 10 to the 602,060 power, that is a 1 followed by 602,060 zeroes...

If you were to flip a coin once per second, it would take over 10 to the 600,000 years to achieve the Pennsylvania scenario from my previous post. The current age of the universe is 14 billion years (14 times 10 to the 9th power).... in other words, you would need a GOOGOL (10 raised 100 power) raised to the sixth power times the age of the universe to achieve the Pennsylvania scenario

The same is - those that don't understand - will simply say it makes no sense and blow it off.

In addition to the already proven fraud - something else happened using these machines. No, I cannot prove it. But it's the only thing that makes sense remaining. And the entire idea behind it, as stated before, would now also explain in a manner as to why you will never find the reasoning behind these anomalies and numbers that don't make sense. IMO - if algorithms were in fact ran that I read about and posted before, would easily explain if there were any vote flipping, any weird changes without normal input of votes and other anomalies and there is nothing in the logs that would explain it. It wouldn't and it shouldn't.

KarlMarx
12-12-2020, 08:03 PM
I posted a video (I think) where a programmer from Semantic, the company that owns Norton and LifeLock) bought(!) two voting machines on eBay (which should be illegal). He then explained how he could hack it

1. Easily removable chips (displaying their model numbers) so that he could swap in other chips that would do what he wanted

2. Connectors that can be disconnected, making it possible to insert a smart card to alter votes

3. Logs that displayed information that gave information that made hacking easier, e.g. throwing a fault whenever a certain candidate was voted for.

The video was posted two years ago..


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jimnyc
12-12-2020, 08:24 PM
I posted a video (I think) where a programmer from Semantic, the company that owns Norton and LifeLock) bought(!) two voting machines on eBay (which should be illegal). He then explained how he could hack it

1. Easily removable chips (displaying their model numbers) so that he could swap in other chips that would do what he wanted

2. Connectors that can be disconnected, making it possible to insert a smart card to alter votes

3. Logs that displayed information that gave information that made hacking easier, e.g. throwing a fault whenever a certain candidate was voted for.

The video was posted two years ago..


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Yeps.

Easy insertion of code/algorithms - and now from afar as well - and capabilities are endless once at that stage. Can basically just write an advanced algorithm using knowledge about the election process & numbers - and applying simple math basically. All that remains after the capability of such, is the logs that will monitor and keep track of the activity. Only to have the algorithm delete all of it and then itself.

There are a lot of proven capabilities of these machines long prior to the election, much of it a few years.