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gabosaurus
12-16-2020, 07:45 PM
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/news/2020/12/16/neighbors-say-trump-cant-live-mar-lago-estate-once-presidency-ends/3923305001/ ----> PALM BEACH — President Donald Trump and the first family should not expect to be welcomed to the neighborhood with open arms when they move from the White House to Mar-a-Lago – dubbed the Winter White House by the soon-to-be former president. West Palm Beach attorney Reginald G. Stambaugh sent a letter to Palm Beach Mayor Gail Coniglio and the Town Council on Tuesday laying out the legal reasons and security concerns that should bar Trump from living at his private club. According to Stambaugh, Trump has violated an agreement he entered into with the town after lengthy, contentious meetings in 1993 over his commitment to preserve the 18-acre estate if the town allowed him to turn Mar-a-Lago into a club

icansayit
12-16-2020, 10:02 PM
The President will still be an AMERICAN citizen after he leaves the W/H.

The Constitution does not Expire for Where He Lives as (PROPERTY) because PALM BEACH Lawyers say so.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/zGBKfFSGTCXetHmWcdBciVsiOO50AneP4-garuIvU6S4sLBrIVEXFCOk4ggf5yi7Uan-T-T5qQpGw37K9k8Shbc20cAp8xCnWYPDaP_xyrDVE_ermFz6d1kb GfE_9EOCb6D-_cElMOpcTm0
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.]

SassyLady
12-17-2020, 12:21 AM
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/news/2020/12/16/neighbors-say-trump-cant-live-mar-lago-estate-once-presidency-ends/3923305001/ ----> PALM BEACH — President Donald Trump and the first family should not expect to be welcomed to the neighborhood with open arms when they move from the White House to Mar-a-Lago – dubbed the Winter White House by the soon-to-be former president. West Palm Beach attorney Reginald G. Stambaugh sent a letter to Palm Beach Mayor Gail Coniglio and the Town Council on Tuesday laying out the legal reasons and security concerns that should bar Trump from living at his private club. According to Stambaugh, Trump has violated an agreement he entered into with the town after lengthy, contentious meetings in 1993 over his commitment to preserve the 18-acre estate if the town allowed him to turn Mar-a-Lago into a club

Why do you care where he lives?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-17-2020, 02:07 AM
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/news/2020/12/16/neighbors-say-trump-cant-live-mar-lago-estate-once-presidency-ends/3923305001/ ----> PALM BEACH — President Donald Trump and the first family should not expect to be welcomed to the neighborhood with open arms when they move from the White House to Mar-a-Lago – dubbed the Winter White House by the soon-to-be former president. West Palm Beach attorney Reginald G. Stambaugh sent a letter to Palm Beach Mayor Gail Coniglio and the Town Council on Tuesday laying out the legal reasons and security concerns that should bar Trump from living at his private club. According to Stambaugh, Trump has violated an agreement he entered into with the town after lengthy, contentious meetings in 1993 over his commitment to preserve the 18-acre estate if the town allowed him to turn Mar-a-Lago into a club

He owns a home there he can live there.
Or does being in opposition to the dem party and its insanity and corruption deny him of his citizenship and freedoms protected by our Constitution?
Let them tell me I can not live in my home and see my reaction. It damn sure would not be gentle or an agreeable compliance to such absurdity and such undeniable tyranny!
Life has no true meaning to those that will not defend their freedom or the right to own property and make use of it to live.
If such calls for action to defend ones rights- the tyrants had better look out, imho.
As some have integrity, courage of their convictions and the ability to fight to maintain their freedom to live unmolested by such arrogant assholes.
Trump, same as you or I, has that very same right my friend.- Tyr

icansayit
12-17-2020, 02:14 AM
Why do you care where he lives?


Do you remember when I mentioned avoiding NEGATIVE people a few months ago?

NEGATIVE people like gabby only have one purpose in their miserable life, and that is to make everybody around them JUST AS MISERABLE in order for their Negatives to work, and they go on Mad at the World...but mostly...THEMSELVES.

If you hang around LOSERS, or MISERABLE people. YOU become a Loser, and Miserable too!

That's how they manage to cheat and lie their way through life. Like The Clinton's, Obama's, Biden's, Pelosi's, and the SOCIALIST IDIOTS like AOC, Sanders, Warren, and the rest of the RADICAL Sufferer's of TDS.:salute:

gabosaurus
12-17-2020, 11:53 AM
Do you remember when I mentioned avoiding NEGATIVE people a few months ago? NEGATIVE people like gabby only have one purpose in their miserable life, and that is to make everybody around them JUST AS MISERABLE in order for their Negatives to work, and they go on Mad at the World...but mostly...THEMSELVES. If you hang around LOSERS, or MISERABLE people. YOU become a Loser, and Miserable too! That's how they manage to cheat and lie their way through life. Like The Clinton's, Obama's, Biden's, Pelosi's, and the SOCIALIST IDIOTS like AOC, Sanders, Warren, and the rest of the RADICAL Sufferer's of TDS.:salute: How does posting a link to a story make me a miserable loser? I personally don't care where Trump lives, or what he does after leaving office. I just thought it was an interesting story.

tailfins
12-17-2020, 12:21 PM
How does posting a link to a story make me a miserable loser? I personally don't care where Trump lives, or what he does after leaving office. I just thought it was an interesting story.

You're right. It's interesting in the sense of how petty and vindictive the limousine leftists in Palm Beach are. Perhaps a protracted legal battle could serve as an economic stimulus for the area if enough legal fees are generated.

jimnyc
12-17-2020, 01:04 PM
He'll be moving there with Melania after the WH in 2021 and they ain't stopping it.

tailfins
12-17-2020, 01:14 PM
He'll be moving there with Melania after the WH in 2021 and they ain't stopping it.

I don't think they intend on stopping him. There's just some palms in Palm Beach (I wonder if that's why they call it that) waiting to be greased.

Much in the same way the middle finger is a typical gesture in New York, the typical gesture in South Florida is to put your hand out and clear your throat.

SassyLady
12-17-2020, 03:38 PM
How does posting a link to a story make me a miserable loser? I personally don't care where Trump lives, or what he does after leaving office. I just thought it was an interesting story.

Because you never post anything positive about Trump. It's like you go out of your way to post negative links.

jimnyc
12-17-2020, 03:53 PM
Because you never post anything positive about Trump. It's like you go out of your way to post negative links.

I'll give her credit for posting some articles as of late. Nice to see that. Would be nice if comments of paragraphs or something came along with it to support what is being posted.

Still doesn't mean it isn't crap though. :laugh2:

icansayit
12-17-2020, 04:48 PM
How does posting a link to a story make me a miserable loser? I personally don't care where Trump lives, or what he does after leaving office. I just thought it was an interesting story.


What's gonna be more fun for the rest of us will be...If Biden and Harris take over, and everything YOU have...then becomes what THEY DECIDE, and how much more you will pay to be a Happy Camper in Californication between the Fires, Homeless, Crime, and your new leaders who live in LA LA Land who demand...DO AS WE SAY OR ELSE.

Other than that gabby. Your misery index is now so high...look at how you felt a need to defend yourself after hearing the TRUTH.

gabosaurus
12-17-2020, 07:11 PM
Because you never post anything positive about Trump. It's like you go out of your way to post negative links. How many positive links have been posted on DP about Joe Biden lately? Like, none? I realize that this is a conservative forum that is strongly pro-Trump. That is why I try to represent the other side on occasion. It isn't like I am attacking anyone personally.
I'll give her credit for posting some articles as of late. Nice to see that. Would be nice if comments of paragraphs or something came along with it to support what is being posted. Still doesn't mean it isn't crap though. :laugh2: Sometimes I post qualifiers with it. Others I just leave out for discussion purposes. Remember than one person's trash is another person's conspiracy theory.

LongTermGuy
12-17-2020, 07:20 PM
" Palm Beach says Trump can't use Mar-a-Lago as a residence (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?71811-Palm-Beach-says-Trump-can-t-use-Mar-a-Lago-as-a-residence) "



Garbage.....^^^^

Lets get real....

jimnyc
12-17-2020, 07:35 PM
Yo, Ltg!! Was good?

I deleted the spongebob photo from above. Not sure if you realized it or not, but it was VERY graphic!! Funny, but too graphic for here.

SassyLady
12-17-2020, 11:19 PM
How many positive links have been posted on DP about Joe Biden lately? Like, none? I realize that this is a conservative forum that is strongly pro-Trump. That is why I try to represent the other side on occasion. It isn't like I am attacking anyone personally. Sometimes I post qualifiers with it. Others I just leave out for discussion purposes. Remember than one person's trash is another person's conspiracy theory.
gabosaurus

I wish you would post positive articles about Biden rather than negative about Trump. Fill that void about Biden on this forum.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-17-2020, 11:29 PM
gabosaurus

I wish you would post positive articles about Biden rather than negative about Trump. Fill that void about Biden on this forum.
May be extremely hard to find --TRUE-- positive articles about Biden..
Of course that would not be a problem to a person that cares not about the truth.
Mainstream media will very likely destroy Biden later on-- in order to replace him with the ""camel embarass"" thingy...--Tyr

tailfins
12-17-2020, 11:33 PM
How many positive links have been posted on DP about Joe Biden lately? Like, none? I realize that this is a conservative forum that is strongly pro-Trump. That is why I try to represent the other side on occasion. It isn't like I am attacking anyone personally. Sometimes I post qualifiers with it. Others I just leave out for discussion purposes. Remember than one person's trash is another person's conspiracy theory.

The stuff you post about Trump is a whisper compared to some of the stuff I read out there. It's a good idea to know what the other side is thinking:

"Trump's blockade genocide", "Trump has destabilized world peace", "The Venezuelan people show solidarity with President Maduro as Trump's henchmen fail one again to assassinate our great leader", "More violence in Washington as Trump's supporters refuse to accept his defeat.", (They conveniently forget to mention Antifa). "Trump's regime interferes with Chinas COVID charitable assistance efforts.", "China provides economic assistance around the world in spite of US efforts to sabotage", "Trump slanders our selfless doctors as the relieve suffering around the world"

Read all about it: http://www.granma.cu/mundo

tailfins
12-18-2020, 09:09 AM
May be extremely hard to find --TRUE-- positive articles about Biden..
Of course that would not be a problem to a person that cares not about the truth.
Mainstream media will very likely destroy Biden later on-- in order to replace him with the ""camel embarass"" thingy...--Tyr

Since when has truth been a factor in what the media says about Biden?

jimnyc
12-18-2020, 02:04 PM
How many positive links have been posted on DP about Joe Biden lately? Like, none? I realize that this is a conservative forum that is strongly pro-Trump. That is why I try to represent the other side on occasion. It isn't like I am attacking anyone personally.

If I linked to them, would it matter? And you being gone for awhile, how do you know how much was discussed and when? I I were to take the time and gather links and point out some threads - you'll never reply or make another excuse. Suffice to say - while Joe sucks, he was a LOT better choice than the rest of the candidates. In fact, from the get go, I thought he was the best choice. But then more and more and more of his scandal ridden career continued to come out. Then the scandals which involved criminal actions and wrongdoings tied to our government and/or the VP position of the USA. And then followed by lies and lies. It just grew worse and worse.


Sometimes I post qualifiers with it. Others I just leave out for discussion purposes. Remember than one person's trash is another person's conspiracy theory.

Leaving out for discussion purposes isn't a good idea. Folks wanna know why you post something and what your own stance on it is.

And trash and conspiracy theories or often separated away from the rest due to facts.

tailfins
12-18-2020, 04:13 PM
If I linked to them, would it matter? And you being gone for awhile, how do you know how much was discussed and when? I I were to take the time and gather links and point out some threads - you'll never reply or make another excuse. Suffice to say - while Joe sucks, he was a LOT better choice than the rest of the candidates. In fact, from the get go, I thought he was the best choice. But then more and more and more of his scandal ridden career continued to come out. Then the scandals which involved criminal actions and wrongdoings tied to our government and/or the VP position of the USA. And then followed by lies and lies. It just grew worse and worse.



Leaving out for discussion purposes isn't a good idea. Folks wanna know why you post something and what your own stance on it is.

And trash and conspiracy theories or often separated away from the rest due to facts.

Maybe she was lurking the whole time. Perhaps the way J. Balvin and Bad Bunny say to an ex-girlfriend that keeps looking at his social media profile, "If you're going to stalk me, at least give me a blow job."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPc3Pe42bGI

gabosaurus
12-18-2020, 04:21 PM
If I linked to them, would it matter? And you being gone for awhile, how do you know how much was discussed and when? I I were to take the time and gather links and point out some threads - you'll never reply or make another excuse. Suffice to say - while Joe sucks, he was a LOT better choice than the rest of the candidates. In fact, from the get go, I thought he was the best choice. But then more and more and more of his scandal ridden career continued to come out. Then the scandals which involved criminal actions and wrongdoings tied to our government and/or the VP position of the USA. And then followed by lies and lies. It just grew worse and worse. Leaving out for discussion purposes isn't a good idea. Folks wanna know why you post something and what your own stance on it is. And trash and conspiracy theories or often separated away from the rest due to facts. You do make some good points. From my viewpoint, Biden was not the best candidate. But he was the only candidate that had a chance of winning. Dems needed someone who was moderate and walked the center of the aisle. I haven't seen any verified trace of Biden's "scandal ridden career." Linking Joe with his son is not going to do. Joe Biden has long acknowledged his son's struggles with substance abuse. A lot of parents face that struggle.

SassyLady
12-18-2020, 07:50 PM
You do make some good points. From my viewpoint, Biden was not the best candidate. But he was the only candidate that had a chance of winning. Dems needed someone who was moderate and walked the center of the aisle. I haven't seen any verified trace of Biden's "scandal ridden career." Linking Joe with his son is not going to do. Joe Biden has long acknowledged his son's struggles with substance abuse. A lot of parents face that struggle.

Why not? The left has crucified Trumps kids for 5 years. Why should it be different for Biden? Is it because he's a Democrat? Is that why it's not OK to report on his son?

gabosaurus
12-18-2020, 08:08 PM
Why not? The left has crucified Trumps kids for 5 years. Why should it be different for Biden? Is it because he's a Democrat? Is that why it's not OK to report on his son? Why should anyone go after Trump's kids? Is it Ivanka using her dad's position to obtain business rights in China that were not available to others? Or Ivanka visiting Trump resorts that she has a controlling interest in and billing the government for such? Ivanka and Jared using their inside access and influence to do $135 million in business with foreign businesses? Ivanka earning $750,000 for illicit "consulting" fees? Eric overcharging government officials and the Secret Service millions of dollars for stays at Trump properties? Donald Jr. brokering millions of dollars worth of deals for his companies using his inside influence?

jimnyc
12-18-2020, 08:13 PM
You do make some good points. From my viewpoint, Biden was not the best candidate. But he was the only candidate that had a chance of winning. Dems needed someone who was moderate and walked the center of the aisle. I haven't seen any verified trace of Biden's "scandal ridden career." Linking Joe with his son is not going to do. Joe Biden has long acknowledged his son's struggles with substance abuse. A lot of parents face that struggle.

In a couple of ways I still think he's the best option. But that would be the Joe I knew with the moderate ways. Not the Joe that is aging and being reeled in by those with socialist agendas.

Seriously, Biden does have a LOT of scandals in his closet. And even take Hunter out of the picture. Don't be naive about this. :rolleyes:

You don't remember ANY times he had issues, like having to drop entirely out of a campaign after lying and then being busted about plagiarism?

Or how about when he was involved in sending weapons to Mexico and trying to track them and failing. To be found when Brian Terry was murdered, an American border agent. In addition to hundreds of Mexican citizens?

I know you're younger but you aren't THAT young, nor are you incapable of proper research.

Tara Reade case that was censored mostly on the news, and I believe it was up to like 7 others accusing him of sexual assaults. *looked, yes it is 7. A democrat staffer, a congressional aide, college student, writer, white house intern, an assemblywoman, sexual assault survivor & Biden senate staffer. (https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/04/30/here-are-the-eight-women-who-have-accused-joe-biden-of-inappropriate-behavior-n387062)

You heard "Russia Russia Russia" for 4 years under Trump, and it was made up BS and it all came out in the end. Now it's going to be "China China China" and the only difference is that there are legitimate ties between Joe, James & Hunter with the Chinese.

Burisma Holdings in Ukraine. Another one where there's a visit, and next thing you know Hunter Biden is VP of a company in Ukraine making massive $$ with zero experience. And once again, "H", the Big Man gets his 10-20% cut.

Also related to that one - is that Viktor Shokin was assigned as a prosecutor to investigate Burisma. Ukraine is about to get $1 billion dollars in aid from the United States. Joe tells them that unless they fire Shokin, they are simply not going to get the money. And if not, call Obama if they didn't believe him. He stated they had 6 hours to decide. Well, they decided and he was fired and no investigation into Burisma.

Apart from Hunter, James Biden is highly involved in profiting off of his brother. Howard Krein, his son in law. Frank Biden & Valerie Biden.

He stated quite a few times that he was arrested with Nelson Mandela in South Africa under apartheid times. This is completely false.

Lied about supporting the Iraq war when he had even voted for it.

Joe's own words - "I went to law school on a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class who had a full academic scholarship. The first year in law school, I decided I didn’t want to be in law school and ended up in the bottom two-thirds of my class. And then decided I wanted to stay, went back to law school and, in fact, ended up in the top half of my class. I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school." - Problem is, he never got a scholarship. Was not the only one in his class anyway. In fact, the rest false too. Every last bit of it was made up.

He was known as a liar and was busted many a time in the past.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0TPD8zsD4E&feature=emb_logo

A couple times also, prior to giving speeches, he searched and stole some speeches and shared them, without credit of course.

He has plagiarized so many times. He got busted for plagiarism while in law school. He's lucky they only gave him an F for the course and to take it again the next semester.

He had such a history at the time of weird unwanted touching and known for it - and his nickname at the time became "Creepy Uncle Joe".

It's 1987 and Joe Biden is running for president for the first time. What do Neil Kinnock, Robert Kennedy & JFK as well & then lastly Hubert Humphrey all have in common? They all had large portions of their speeches stolen and re-used by Biden himself. Add in the lies from above he had told about his law school experience. He also claimed then that he finished at the top of his law school class, when in fact it turned out he finished near the bottom. It was also outed during that time that he plagiarized in '65 and was almost tossed out of law school. Then it was into his personal life. And then how he was so much involved in the civil rights movement. But it turned out that he had lied 31 times. Said he was an activist, organizer, sit-in demonstrator, boycott leader, voter registration volunteer, Black church trainee and more in the Civil Rights Movement. It all came out eventually and it culminated in Joe Biden no longer running for president.

Biden was also known for being a racist at times and supporting racist policies and racist people, and even eulogizing the king of them. At one time was fearful of a "racial jungle". He was afraid of his children growing up in a racial jungle and it exploding at some point.

Also, like many others, pandered to the crowd in front of him, and was quite often telling black audiences about all the times he marched in the civil rights movement, even though he never did.

A Chinese energy firm made a deal with Sinohawk Holdings. Hunter is part of Sinohawk, or connected to them, and states that 10% of the venture's equity was being reserved for the "big guy". Tony Bobulinski is the CEO of this company and has verified that the "big guy" is in fact Joe Biden. And with another energy company in China, "CEFC" out of Shanghai, another email from one of the partners went over “remuneration packages” for 6 people that were involved. And it states in there 10 percent would be “held by H for the big guy” and again Bobulinski confirms the “big guy” was Joe Biden. And the "JB" referenced in the email was for "Jim Biden". Al confirmed.

You might be wondering why some are in red. Those are the ones that have been proven. The few in green are massive accusations not fully proven. And if green/red both, just too many to list. :)

icansayit
12-18-2020, 08:13 PM
Why should anyone go after Trump's kids? Is it Ivanka using her dad's position to obtain business rights in China that were not available to others? Or Ivanka visiting Trump resorts that she has a controlling interest in and billing the government for such? Ivanka and Jared using their inside access and influence to do $135 million in business with foreign businesses? Ivanka earning $750,000 for illicit "consulting" fees? Eric overcharging government officials and the Secret Service millions of dollars for stays at Trump properties? Donald Jr. brokering millions of dollars worth of deals for his companies using his inside influence?


SHOW US PROOF of everything you said above. Not opinions, editorials, but actual HONEST FACTS...Documented, Verified, and Proven.
YOUR EYES MUST BE SO "BROWN YOUR CHOKING FACTOR HAS INCREASED TOO!

SassyLady
12-18-2020, 08:20 PM
Why should anyone go after Trump's kids? Is it Ivanka using her dad's position to obtain business rights in China that were not available to others? Or Ivanka visiting Trump resorts that she has a controlling interest in and billing the government for such? Ivanka and Jared using their inside access and influence to do $135 million in business with foreign businesses? Ivanka earning $750,000 for illicit "consulting" fees? Eric overcharging government officials and the Secret Service millions of dollars for stays at Trump properties? Donald Jr. brokering millions of dollars worth of deals for his companies using his inside influence?

I truly believe they had all those connections before Trump became president.

So, are you saying now that Hunter is on the hot seat, what you believe Trump's kids did is OK?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-18-2020, 10:04 PM
Since when has truth been a factor in what the media says about Biden?

Its absence is a factor -- a positive for him.
Guy is and always has been a dishonest asshole of the lowest caliber, imho... -Tyr