tailfins
12-30-2020, 11:56 AM
Both were born on January 3, 2003. One is a fragile little child that no one dare criticize. Kyle Rittenhouse defended himself from a lethal mob, but is portrayed as less than human. Can there be more of a double standard?
jimnyc
12-30-2020, 01:22 PM
Both were born on January 3, 2003. One is a fragile little child that no one dare criticize. Kyle Rittenhouse defended himself from a lethal mob, but is portrayed as less than human. Can there be more of a double standard?
Greta is coddled and would have been treated totally different had she been at a protest and someone chased her down and she protected herself.
Kyle did absolutely nothing wrong. Sometimes when you break the laws the consequences can turn fatal. And when someone is simply wanting to protect their business, and they are carrying a weapon, it may not be wise to NOT chase that person down and try to beat him. :rolleyes:
fj1200
12-30-2020, 03:43 PM
She's a twit. He should never have been there. Now they're both tools of someone else.
jimnyc
12-30-2020, 05:04 PM
She's a twit. He should never have been there. Now they're both tools of someone else.
Well, yeah, she's been a tool of her Dad for a long time, and now just has more people using her for their agendas.
I agree in many ways that he should neve even have been there, likely should have stayed back in his own state. He did make errors leading up to that evening. But I don't think he did anything wrong in defending, nor running towards police when he had little alternative. And his decision to pull the trigger.... Here is what Wiki has at least:
First major confrontation
The beginning of the first confrontation between Rittenhouse and Rosenbaum was witnessed by Daily Caller reporter Richie McGinniss. According to McGinnis, it seemed that Rosenbaum and other protesters were moving toward Rittenhouse, who was trying to evade them; Rosenbaum then tried to "engage" Rittenhouse, but Rittenhouse managed to avoid this by sidestepping and running away.
The remainder of Rosenbaum's confrontation, and the following incidents with Huber and Grosskreutz, were recorded in cellphone footage from multiple angles, including the moments of the shooting. Video footage showed Rittenhouse being pursued across a parking lot by Rosenbaum, who threw something in Rittenhouse's direction, identified as a plastic bag. As Rittenhouse was running from Rosenbaum, two shots can be heard, one from an unknown third party, fired for an unknown reason, and one from Joshua Ziminski, who fired a self-described "warning shot" into the air, causing Rittenhouse to stop running and turn towards the sound of Ziminski's shot. On-the-scene reporter Richie McGinniss has since stated that the sound of the shot was the moment Rittenhouse "went from running away to aiming his weapon." Then, according to Kenosha County prosecutors, Rosenbaum managed to engage Rittenhouse and tried to take his rifle from him. Rittenhouse then fired four shots, hitting Rosenbaum in the groin, back, and left hand. The bullets fractured Rosenbaum's pelvis, perforated his right lung and liver, and caused additional minor wounds to his left thigh and forehead. Rittenhouse remained near the fatally wounded Rosenbaum as McGinnis began administering first aid. Rittenhouse then made a phone call and was heard saying "I just killed somebody," and then fled as more protesters arrived.
Second major confrontation
Video from another angle then showed Rittenhouse being chased down the street by several protesters, one of whom strikes him from behind in the head, knocking off his cap, shortly after which Rittenhouse tripped and fell to the ground. According to the criminal complaint, at that point, protesters are heard yelling "Beat him up!," "Get him! Get that dude!," and "Get his ass!" One of the men who had been chasing him jumped and kicked Rittenhouse while he was still on the ground – Rittenhouse fired twice but missed the man.
Next, according to court records and video footage, another protester, Anthony Huber, struck Rittenhouse's left shoulder with a skateboard as they struggled for control of the gun. As Huber was pulling on the rifle, Rittenhouse fired once, hitting Huber in the chest, perforating his heart and right lung, leading to rapid death.
Third major confrontation and Rittenhouse's departure
Gaige Grosskreutz approached Rittenhouse while he was still on the ground but stopped and put his hands up when Huber was shot. According to a complaint filed by the Kenosha County Clerk of Courts, Grosskreutz appeared to have a handgun. Grosskreutz later confirmed he was holding a handgun. When Grosskreutz moved again towards Rittenhouse, Rittenhouse shot Grosskreutz in the arm, severing most of his bicep.
At least 16 gunshots from other sources can be heard during the time that Rittenhouse was on the ground.
Rittenhouse subsequently got back to his feet and walked towards police with his hands up and the Smith & Wesson M&P AR-15 rifle strapped across his chest they allowed him to leave or appeared not to acknowledge him, though several witnesses and other protesters shouted for him to be arrested. When asked at a press conference why Rittenhouse was not stopped, Kenosha Sheriff David Beth said, "In situations that are high-stress, you have such incredible tunnel vision" and implied officers may not have realized he had been involved in the shooting. Likewise, Kenosha Police Chief Daniel Miskinis claimed that "there was nothing to suggest this individual was involved in any criminal behavior" due to the fact that someone walking towards the police with their hands up was "no longer abnormal" in the wake of the protests.
fj1200
12-30-2020, 05:11 PM
Well, yeah, she's been a tool of her Dad for a long time, and now just has more people using her for their agendas.
I agree in many ways that he should neve even have been there, likely should have stayed back in his own state. He did make errors leading up to that evening. But I don't think he did anything wrong in defending, nor running towards police when he had little alternative. And his decision to pull the trigger.... Here is what Wiki has at least:
My summary of this situation is similar to the trayvon martin/zimmerman thing; stupid people meet up, do stupid thing, and the guy with the gun doesn't die.
jimnyc
12-31-2020, 05:35 PM
My summary of this situation is similar to the trayvon martin/zimmerman thing; stupid people meet up, do stupid thing, and the guy with the gun doesn't die.
Agreed on that one!
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