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jimnyc

01-02-2021, 04:01 PM

Well, they're certainly learning well. :rolleyes:

I don't know if China is lying through their teeth - or are they medically advanced more than the rest of the entire world - or if there was shenanigans behind the scenes and a plan of sorts, or at least partially? Or perhaps a mixture?

No way in hell I believe that they somehow beat the virus, whether with a vaccine or something else. Or that that they are/were able to limit the movements and actions of 1.3b+ citizens and so quickly defeat this and be ahead of the entire world.

I don't believe they're any more advanced in the medical world than other leading countries.

The idea that they could have somehow created this virus, released it on purpose, infected the world AND limited it within China where it started - would be quite difficult and more like nearly impossible. And this being a "man-made" virus has almost been ruled out.

But I still do believe that it could have been released accidentally, as discussed in the past. An accident happens, shit happens - but if it were to happen from a level 4 virology lab, I can understand the denial of such a colossal screw up. Post again on that below.

But even if, whether released accidentally, on purpose or whatever - how can the place it emanated from be so far ahead of much of the world? Most likely lying about numbers, only explanation that makes sense.

A total of 96,000 cases since this started in China? Total of 4,784 deaths? Really???

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For anyone interested, a little recap of posts from earlier and the Wuhan Lab that the virus may have come from

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Coronavirus Expert Says Virus Could Have Leaked From Wuhan Lab

Richard H. Ebright, a molecular biologist who has been quoted as a coronavirus expert by The Washington Post and MSNBC, said Thursday that it’s possible that COVID-19 leaked from a Wuhan lab.
Shi Zhengli, China’s leading virologist on bat-borne viruses, said in March that she lost sleep worrying that the virus could have leaked from her lab in Wuhan after she first learned of the virus in December.
Shi now tells those who share the concerns she once had to “shut their stinking mouths.”

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A molecular biologist who has been quoted as a coronavirus expert by The Washington Post and MSNBC said Thursday in no uncertain terms that the novel coronavirus could have been unleashed due to a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

China’s top virologist on bat-borne viruses, Shi Zhengli, has sworn on her life that the virus did not leak from her Wuhan lab, saying that its spread was “nature punishing the human race for keeping uncivilized living habits.”

But Richard H. Ebright, a professor of chemical biology at Rutgers University, told the Daily Caller News Foundation on Thursday that there is a real possibility that the virus entered the human population due to a laboratory accident.

When asked specifically if he believes the virus could have leaked from Shi’s lab in Wuhan, Ebright said: “Yes.”

“A denial is not a refutation,” Ebright said. “Especially not a denial based on ‘nature punishing the human race for keeping uncivilized living habits.'”

And while Shi now tells those who question whether her lab could be connected to the release of the coronavirus to “shut their stinking mouths,” she previously said she lost sleep worrying about the possibility that her lab in Wuhan could have been responsible for the virus’s release.

Shi, known by her colleagues as the “bat woman” because of the 16 years she has spent hunting for viruses in bat caves, told Scientific American in March that she frantically searched for any evidence that her laboratory’s records were mishandled upon learning of the virus’s outbreak in Wuhan in late December.

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One of the first doctors in Wuhan to raise the alarm about the spread of a SARS-like virus in the city was detained by police in December and told to “stop making false comments.”

That doctor, Li Wenliang, died from coronavirus in February.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?69307-Did-Wuhan-lab-leak-Covid-19&highlight=virology

After the work stopped in the US, the Chinese moved forward with the project and ran research and development in Wuhan at the Wuhan Virology Center. From Shi Zhengli’s papers and resume, it is clear that they successfully isolated the virus in the lab and were actively experimenting with species <-> specie transmission.

It’s also important to note that back in 2017 we had solid intelligence about a viral leak in a high security Chinese virology R&D center that resulted in the SARS virus getting out and killing people.

This information provides a basis that contradicts the theory that COVID-19 is a variant that just magically mutated in a bat in the wild and then jumped to a human when they ate a delicious bowl of bat soup.

From all of the published research papers that relate to this project going back to 2014, it’s clear that COVID-19 was already in a lab.

It’s difficult to tell if the release was intentional or accidental.

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?69415-More-on-it-being-potential-leak-from-Wuhan-lab&highlight=virology

Evidence Chinese Officials Reported Wuhan Institute Was Source of Coronavirus Through February

As late as February it was being reported in China that the Wuhan Institute of Virology was where the coronavirus originated. The Wuhan Market claimed to be the source by other reports in the media doesn’t even sell bats.

As we reported previously, Chinese Doctor Shi Zhengli was part of a team that working on a coronavirus project jointly with US doctors in 2014 before it was shut down by the DHS for being too risky. Dr. Shi Zhengli then moved to Wuhan, China, where she continued to work on the coronavirus.

We also provided pictures of the researchers in Wuhan working with live animals (above).

In early January in China, the Director-General of the Wuhan Institute of Virology sent out a message that ordered her staff not to discuss the çoronavirus or release any materials about it (below).

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?69448-Evidence-Chinese-Officials-Reported-Wuhan-Institute-Was-Source-of-Coronavirus&highlight=virology