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SassyLady
01-13-2021, 05:29 PM
What a farce!

PixieStix
01-13-2021, 05:34 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/13/us/which-republicans-voted-to-impeach-trump.html

LongTermGuy
01-13-2021, 05:38 PM
`Trump Blows Off Second Impeachment, Awards Medal of Arts to Tobey Keith and Ricky

Skaggs at White House Ceremony During House Votes @gatewaypundit (https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit)



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​https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/trump-blows-off-second-impeachment-awards-medal-arts-tobey-keith-ricky-skaggs-white-house-ceremony-house-votes/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

LongTermGuy
01-13-2021, 05:41 PM
....Think about it, you are being accused of a crime but you cannot speak, cannot defend

yourself and you are silenced by all sources of media. Does that sound fair? Welcome to the

world of President Donald Trump!

pete311
01-13-2021, 05:48 PM
....Think about it, you are being accused of a crime but you cannot speak, cannot defend

yourself and you are silenced by all sources of media. Does that sound fair? Welcome to the

world of President Donald Trump!



impeachment is not a criminal process

SassyLady
01-13-2021, 06:08 PM
impeachment is not a criminal process
Dems used it as a temper tantrum.

LongTermGuy
01-13-2021, 06:29 PM
impeachment is not a criminal process


When `desperate` stupidity is added to lies....It becomes Democrat (Liberal) Ignorance...

jimnyc
01-13-2021, 08:16 PM
impeachment is not a criminal process

Who would have ever thought you would show up moments afterwards? Never, not me! :laugh::rolleyes:

KarlMarx
01-13-2021, 08:55 PM
Yes, impeachment IS a criminal process

Article II Section 4 of the USC

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.


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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-13-2021, 09:25 PM
impeachment is not a criminal process

Yes, it is.
Of course it is a political move by the dems and a damn farce too.
Yet the dems, the media and other the idiots will cheer it and pretend in their arrogant and sanctimonious way
that they are heroes and only doing what is right.
UTTER AND COMPLETE BULLSHIT...
Only a damn fool would believe that, imho..----Tyr

fj1200
01-13-2021, 09:33 PM
Not criminal. A removal from office process. I just wonder if the Dems will make a it a removal of opportunity to run again process. Question: If he's convicted in NY for fill-in-the-blank financial crime is he barred from holding office? Hmmm.

KarlMarx
01-13-2021, 09:35 PM
Waiting for the President to declassify all the dirt on the Dems before he leaves. From what I hear, it’s going to be like a big shit bomb taped to the Democrats’ hands.

KarlMarx
01-13-2021, 09:36 PM
Not criminal. A removal from office process. I just wonder if the Dems will make a it a removal of opportunity to run again process. Question: If he's convicted in NY for fill-in-the-blank financial crime is he barred from holding office? Hmmm.

If convicted in the Senate, he cannot hold public office again per USC Article I Section 3


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fj1200
01-13-2021, 09:41 PM
If convicted in the Senate, he cannot hold public office again per USC Article II Section 4


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That's not automatic.

KarlMarx
01-13-2021, 09:43 PM
3.7 Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.


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fj1200
01-13-2021, 09:56 PM
3.7 Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.


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Interesting. Apparently there is some question about that:


There is at least some uncertainty about the disqualification issue, since no president has ever been removed from office by the Senate and only judges have been disqualified from future office. The disqualification language in the Constitution is "disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States"; Garber noted that no court or Congress has ever settled the question of whether the presidency counts as an "Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States" from which the Senate is able to ban an impeached and convicted person. (Garber said he personally thinks the presidency does count.)
https://abc7.com/can-an-impeached-president-win-a-second-term-in-2024-if-trump-resigns-he-run-again-25th-amendment-was/9568187/

I had always heard it requires a second vote after conviction.

jimnyc
01-14-2021, 12:00 PM
Interesting. Apparently there is some question about that:


https://abc7.com/can-an-impeached-president-win-a-second-term-in-2024-if-trump-resigns-he-run-again-25th-amendment-was/9568187/

I had always heard it requires a second vote after conviction.

Not sure it matters. Between his age & the 4 years of hatred and rhetoric - and now the events at the Capitol, I believe have all but ended him anyway. At least if the concern is about his future, his political future.