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SassyLady
04-15-2021, 12:01 AM
This article captures all the reasons not to get vaccine.

https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

revelarts
04-15-2021, 11:34 AM
Israeli Rabbi Chananya Weissman’s 31 Reasons Why I Won’t Take the Vaccine
https://www.globalresearch.ca/31-reasons-why-i-wont-take-vaccine/5740534

Bilgerat
04-15-2021, 06:42 PM
The Lady and I got the shots, we seem to be just fine

https://scontent-mia3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/173456130_10160062828608455_2119026331023103507_n. jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=XoPSyvDO6bQAX_L6WX2&_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.xx&oh=095ad106e4814348080162beb389b3de&oe=60A03AD7

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fj1200
04-16-2021, 07:47 AM
Look for reasons and you will find them.

NightTrain
04-16-2021, 10:08 AM
This article captures all the reasons not to get vaccine.

https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

The author makes a few good points, and some of them were in the 'con' category already when I was making my decision. And he doesn't seem like your typical anti-vaxxer nutter.


Israeli Rabbi Chananya Weissman’s 31 Reasons Why I Won’t Take the Vaccine
https://www.globalresearch.ca/31-reasons-why-i-wont-take-vaccine/5740534

Careful with that site, Rev... the dude who runs that is a fraud. I remember researching him 10 years ago and he's not to be trusted in anything he says. He got caught creating other websites to bolster his own theories.


So, I got vaccinated with Moderna. Wifey hasn't, and I don't know if she will or not. All of us probably know of a few people who have caught Covid19, and mostly if was just another flu as far as symptoms... not really a big deal.

However, we know a guy down in Minnesota that caught it, healthy, non-smoker, working 2 jobs, in good shape. He was quickly in the ICU for a while, developed full-blown diabetes despite no genetic history while in the ICU, and spent over 3 weeks in the hospital.

That was several months ago.

To this day, he can't even go outside to start his truck without his blood oxygen going below 90, and he depends on his oxygen machine to keep him upright - Covid destroyed his lungs and his pancreas. Possibly other organs, he doesn't know yet.

I realize that most likely it wouldn't affect me so severely, but I'm in a higher risk category with my reduced heart function after my heart attack. Plus, it was an economic decision, because most remote villages around Alaska where I go to work are paranoid about outsiders coming in an infecting their population. It's a very reasonable concern.

So, for those reasons I chose to join the experimental group and hope for the best.

jimnyc
04-16-2021, 03:11 PM
I read both lists, very eye opening and I definitely saw some more that I was unaware of. I know it's dumb but I'm still getting it with all the warning signs I see. It does look to be more of a treatment than a vaccine. We're now up to the possibility of needing a 3rd dose I read. There have in fact been a lot of different reactions. Still all in all in the very low amount in comparison to the hundred million +. That, and needing it to fly and such.... Well, from what I read maybe you can still do so with getting tests everywhere you go, whereas with the vaccine, show them you got it and good to go.

But here are the things from the 1st article that opened my eyes and do concern me some. I don't think the entire planet of vaccinated is going to drop dead, but I do think more reactions and deaths overall in comparisons. And yet to be seen how much this thing keeps mutating, how many doses needed, will it be yearly, will they still or ever come out with better vaccines to deliver immunity and allow for no masks?


#8: UNDER-REPORTING OF ADVERSE REACTIONS AND DEATH

According to a study done by Harvard (at the commission of our own government), less than 1% of all adverse reactions to vaccines are actually submitted to the National Vaccine Adverse Events Reports System (VAERS) - read page 6 at the link above.

While the problems with VAERS have not been fixed (as you can read about in this letter to the CDC), at the time of this writing VAERS reports over 2,200 deaths from the current covid vaccines, as well as close to 60,000 adverse reactions.

"VAERS data released today showed 50,861 reports of adverse events following COVID vaccines, including 2,249 deaths and 7,726 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and March 26, 2021."

And those numbers don't include (what is currently) 578 cases of Bell's Palsy.

If those numbers are still only 1% of the total adverse reactions (or .8 to 2% of what this study published recently in the JAMA found), you can do the math, but that equates to somewhere around 110,000 to 220,000 deaths from the vaccines to date, and a ridiculous number of adverse reactions.

Bet you didn't see that on the news.

That death number would currently still be lower than the 424,000 deaths from medical errors that happen every year (which you probably also don't hear about), but we are not even six months into the rollout of these vaccines yet.

If you want a deeper dive into the problems with the VAERS reporting system, you can check this out, or check this out.

But then there's my next point, which could be argued makes these covid vaccines seem pointless...

#9: THE VACCINES DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION OR INFECTION

Wait, what?

Aren't these vaccines supposed to be what we've been waiting for to "go back to normal"?

Nope.

Why do you think we're getting all these conflicting messages about needing to practice social distancing and wear masks AFTER we get a vaccine?

The reason is because these vaccines were never designed to stop transmission OR infection.

If you don't believe me, I refer you again to the papers submitted to the FDA I linked to above.

The primary endpoint (what the vaccines are meant to accomplish) is to lower your symptoms.

Sounds like just about every other drug on the market right?

That's it...lowering your symptoms is the big payoff we've been waiting for.

Does that seem completely pointless to anyone but me?

It can't stop us from spreading the virus.

It can't stop the virus from infecting us once we have it.

To get the vaccine is to accept all the risk of these experimental products and the best it might do is lower symptoms?

Heck, there are plenty of other things I can do to lower my symptoms that don't involve taking what appears to be a really risky product.

Now for the next logical question:

If we're worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?

If it indeed reduces symptoms, anyone who gets it might not even know they are sick and thus they are more likely to spread the virus, right?

For what it's worth, I've heard many people say the side effects of the vaccine (especially the second dose) are worse than catching covid.

I can't make sense of that either.

Take the risk.

Get no protection.

Suffer through the vaccine side-effects.

Keep wearing your mask and social distancing...

And continue to be able to spread the virus.

What?

It gets worse.

#10: PEOPLE ARE CATCHING COVID AFTER BEING FULLY VACCINATED

Talk about a bummer.

You get vaccinated and you still catch covid.

It's happening in Washington State

It's happening in New York

It's happening in Michigan

It's happening in Hawaii

It's happening in several other states too.

It happened to 80% of 35 nuns who got the vaccine in Kentucky. Two of them died by the way.

In reality, this phenomenon is probably happening everywhere, but those are the ones making the news now.

Given the reasons above (and what's below), maybe this doesn't surprise you, but bummer if you thought the vaccine was a shield to keep you safe.

It's not.

That was never the point.

If 66% of healthcare workers in L.A. are going to delay or skip the vaccine...maybe they aren't wowed by the rushed science either.

Maybe they are watching the shady way deaths and cases are being reported...

#11: THE OVERALL DEATH RATE FROM COVID

According to the CDC's own numbers, covid has a 99.74% survival rate.

Why would I take a risk on a product, that doesn't stop infection or transmission, to help me overcome a cold that has a .26% chance of killing me--actually in my age range is has about a .1% chance of killing me (and .01% chance of killing my kids), but let's not split hairs here.

With a bar (death rate) that low, we will be in lockdown every year...i.e. forever.

But wait, what about the 500,000 plus deaths, that's alarming right?

I'm glad you asked.

#12: THE BLOATED COVID DEATH NUMBERS

Something smells really funny about this one.

Never before in the history of death certificates has our own government changed how deaths are reported.

Why now, are we reporting everyone who dies with covid in their body, as having died of covid, rather than the co-morbidities that actually took their life?

Until covid, all coronaviruses (common colds) were never listed as the primary cause of death when someone died of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, auto-immune conditions, or any other major co-morbidity.

The disease was listed as the cause of death, and a confounding factor like flu or pneumonia was listed on a separate line.

To bloat the number even more, both the W.H.O. and the C.D.C. changed their guidelines such that those who are suspected or probable (but were never confirmed) of having died of covid, are also included in the death numbers.

Seriously?

If we are going to do that then should we not go back and change the numbers of all past cold and flu seasons so we can compare apples to apples when it comes to death rates?

According to the CDCs own numbers, (scroll down to the section "Comorbidities and other conditions") only 6% of the deaths being attributed to covid are instances where covid seems to be the only issue at hand.

In other words, reduce the death numbers you see on the news by 94% and you have what is likely the real numbers of deaths from just covid.

Even if the former CDC director is correct and covid-19 was a lab-enhanced virus (see Reason #14 below), a .26% death rate is still in line with the viral death rate that circles the planet ever year.

Then there's this Fauci guy.

I'd really love to trust him, but besides the fact that he hasn't treated one covid patient...you should probably know...

#13: FAUCI AND SIX OTHERS AT NIAID OWN PATENTS IN THE MODERNA VACCINE

Thanks to the Bayh-Dole Act, government workers are allowed to file patents on any research they do using tax payer funding.

Tony Fauci owns over 1,000 patents (see this video for more details), including patents being used on the Moderna vaccine...which he approved government funding for.

In fact, the NIH (which NIAID is part of) claims joint ownership of Moderna's vaccine.

Does anyone else see this as a MAJOR conflict of interest, or criminal even?

I say criminal because there's also this pesky problem that makes me even more distrustful of Fauci, NIAD, and the NIH in general.

#14: FAUCI IS ON THE HOT SEAT FOR ILLEGAL GAIN-OF-FUNCTION RESEARCH

What is "Gain-of-Function" research?

It's where scientists attempt to make viruses gain functions--i.e. make them more transmissible and deadlier.

Sounds at least a touch unethical, right?

How could that possibly be helpful?

Our government agreed, and banned the practice.

So what did the Fauci-led NIAID do?

They pivoted and outsourced the gain-of-function research (in coronaviruses no less) to China--to the tune of a $600K grant.

You can see more details, including the important timeline of these events in this fantastically well-researched documentary.

Mr. Fauci, you have some explaining to do...and I hope the cameras are recording when you have to defend your actions.

For now, let's turn our attention back to the virus...

icansayit
04-20-2021, 06:09 PM
My wife and I went to the Docs yesterday to prepare her for Cateract surgery in a week. While we were there. Because of our ages...he recommended taking the Covid 1 shot. So, we did.

IF...for some unknown, unexpected, and UNLIKELY reason I stop posting here in the next couple of weeks. Don't worry about flowers...they make me sneeze, :laugh: but remember. I will come back to HAUNT every Democrat, and make the rest of their time here taking too much clean air into their lungs a really SHITTY experience. I can do that...U Know It!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: