jimnyc
05-10-2021, 12:46 PM
Sometimes what makes the most sense and where the circumstantial evidence is so overwhelming and that prior actions and words speak so so loudly, that needing 100% proof isn't necessary. Well, being as important and deadly as this is, the proof is of course necessary. But as of now, I don't see anything even remotely in the same league as the leak from this lab.
All that is left is to determine how it escaped from this lab. Was it incompetence from inside? Incompetence from those overseeing/regulating from out front? Was it the aggressiveness of the testing they were doing and it was just inevitable?
Who was involved inside? Who leaked it? Who all was involved? Was the work possibly the gain of function, which would indirectly tie the US to the testing going on in there?
Or was it the worst case scenario and it was let out on purpose? And if so, the reasoning? Would it explain such low numbers in certain areas? Of course we don't know right now what the hell the numbers are over there, things are kind of secretive in case you didn't notice. But when I was able to check over time, oddly, the major cities where the leaders all were had such extremely low numbers. Of course they shut the town borders down but was also as if they knew in advance and planned what to do. Just a conspiracy theory guess on that one.
IMO, the most likely is the gain of function testing and someone messed up somewhere or a suit messed up somewhere and it leaked out. Not like I trust them enough to not do on purpose either. But I think the bat lady was right and knew instantly that it leaked. And then all of the lying and confusion started a tsunami of infection out there for a few months before much was known or done.
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Renowned Scientists Publish Study by NYT Reporter Tying Coronavirus to Chinese Lab
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists last week published a lengthy report from New York Times (https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/), Nature, and Science writer Nicholas Wade that strongly argued for the theory that Chinese coronavirus originated in a Chinese laboratory.
The Bulletin is a nonprofit organization dating back to the early days of nuclear technology, perhaps best known for its “doomsday clock” that estimates the risk of apocalyptic nuclear or biological war.
Wade’s report was not published by the New York Times or his other regular journals. He self-published it on Medium before it was picked up by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. It appears to be his first self-publication, and his first credit at the Bulletin.
Wade’s report is one of the most comprehensive looks at the laboratory origin theory to date, meticulously recounting everything known about the coronavirus outbreak and patiently dismantling the alternative theories about natural origins and animal transmission. His mission statement is that “so far there is no direct evidence for either theory,” but the absence of evidence for the supposedly “more likely” theory of animal transmission is a huge red flag, and the available “clues” point more strongly at the Wuhan laboratories.
Wade noticed what some skeptical scientists pointed out after the World Health Organization (W.H.O.) reported the results of its controversial Wuhan investigation: the report asserts animals most likely passed the coronavirus along to humans after the virus originated in nature, but no evidence exists that this happened and there should be considerable biological evidence to support this theory at infamous “wet markets” where infected animals were supposedly trafficked.
Wade noted the important, but curiously under-reported, fact that even Chinese researchers have documented early cases with no linkage whatsoever to the wet markets. The W.H.O. report admitted that, after a year of frantic searching and testing over 80,000 animals, no one can find the animal that supposedly transmitted the coronavirus to humans.
The most common suspect for incubating the virus is the bat, which theoretically either gave Chinese coronavirus to humans or infected an intermediate species that did so. The intermediate species remains elusive, and the particular colony of bats often fingered as the most likely originators of the coronavirus – bats from a cave in Yunnan that gave six Chinese miners a mysterious disease with symptoms very similar to the coronavirus in 2012, killing three of them – is located nearly 1,000 miles from Wuhan.
The outbreak began not in Yunnan, where the caves are located, but in Wuhan, where the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) is located – and where there is documentary evidence that scientists were studying samples of the Yunnan disease. Wade recalled that the WIV also has a documented history of safety violations. As he explained in great detail, there are also aspects of the Wuhan coronavirus that suggest it was subjected to precisely the sort of experiments the WIV was performing to understand viruses better and create more effective therapies.
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has furiously denounced the laboratory origin theory as conspiracy-mongering but, Wade argues with extensive detail, the clues that have slipped out of China’s paranoid authoritarian regime are much more consistent with laboratory origins than natural transmission, even if none of those clues measures up to smoking-gun proof.
“It seems to me that proponents of lab escape can explain all the available facts about SARS2 [Chinese coronavirus] considerably more easily than can those who favor natural emergence,” he added. “Proponents of natural emergence have a rather harder story to tell.”
Wade argued none of the key evidence for the animal transmission theory has been found – from the source of the coronavirus in nature, to the intermediate species that might have passed it to humans, to any evidence of the coronavirus slowly gathering strength among the human population as such diseases normally do. There isn’t even a solid explanation for why the outbreak began exclusively in Wuhan if animals were passing it to humans, since there are many other places in that region of China where they could have done so.
Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/05/10/renowned-scientists-publish-study-by-nyt-reporter-tying-coronavirus-to-chinese-lab/
All that is left is to determine how it escaped from this lab. Was it incompetence from inside? Incompetence from those overseeing/regulating from out front? Was it the aggressiveness of the testing they were doing and it was just inevitable?
Who was involved inside? Who leaked it? Who all was involved? Was the work possibly the gain of function, which would indirectly tie the US to the testing going on in there?
Or was it the worst case scenario and it was let out on purpose? And if so, the reasoning? Would it explain such low numbers in certain areas? Of course we don't know right now what the hell the numbers are over there, things are kind of secretive in case you didn't notice. But when I was able to check over time, oddly, the major cities where the leaders all were had such extremely low numbers. Of course they shut the town borders down but was also as if they knew in advance and planned what to do. Just a conspiracy theory guess on that one.
IMO, the most likely is the gain of function testing and someone messed up somewhere or a suit messed up somewhere and it leaked out. Not like I trust them enough to not do on purpose either. But I think the bat lady was right and knew instantly that it leaked. And then all of the lying and confusion started a tsunami of infection out there for a few months before much was known or done.
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Renowned Scientists Publish Study by NYT Reporter Tying Coronavirus to Chinese Lab
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists last week published a lengthy report from New York Times (https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/), Nature, and Science writer Nicholas Wade that strongly argued for the theory that Chinese coronavirus originated in a Chinese laboratory.
The Bulletin is a nonprofit organization dating back to the early days of nuclear technology, perhaps best known for its “doomsday clock” that estimates the risk of apocalyptic nuclear or biological war.
Wade’s report was not published by the New York Times or his other regular journals. He self-published it on Medium before it was picked up by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. It appears to be his first self-publication, and his first credit at the Bulletin.
Wade’s report is one of the most comprehensive looks at the laboratory origin theory to date, meticulously recounting everything known about the coronavirus outbreak and patiently dismantling the alternative theories about natural origins and animal transmission. His mission statement is that “so far there is no direct evidence for either theory,” but the absence of evidence for the supposedly “more likely” theory of animal transmission is a huge red flag, and the available “clues” point more strongly at the Wuhan laboratories.
Wade noticed what some skeptical scientists pointed out after the World Health Organization (W.H.O.) reported the results of its controversial Wuhan investigation: the report asserts animals most likely passed the coronavirus along to humans after the virus originated in nature, but no evidence exists that this happened and there should be considerable biological evidence to support this theory at infamous “wet markets” where infected animals were supposedly trafficked.
Wade noted the important, but curiously under-reported, fact that even Chinese researchers have documented early cases with no linkage whatsoever to the wet markets. The W.H.O. report admitted that, after a year of frantic searching and testing over 80,000 animals, no one can find the animal that supposedly transmitted the coronavirus to humans.
The most common suspect for incubating the virus is the bat, which theoretically either gave Chinese coronavirus to humans or infected an intermediate species that did so. The intermediate species remains elusive, and the particular colony of bats often fingered as the most likely originators of the coronavirus – bats from a cave in Yunnan that gave six Chinese miners a mysterious disease with symptoms very similar to the coronavirus in 2012, killing three of them – is located nearly 1,000 miles from Wuhan.
The outbreak began not in Yunnan, where the caves are located, but in Wuhan, where the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) is located – and where there is documentary evidence that scientists were studying samples of the Yunnan disease. Wade recalled that the WIV also has a documented history of safety violations. As he explained in great detail, there are also aspects of the Wuhan coronavirus that suggest it was subjected to precisely the sort of experiments the WIV was performing to understand viruses better and create more effective therapies.
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has furiously denounced the laboratory origin theory as conspiracy-mongering but, Wade argues with extensive detail, the clues that have slipped out of China’s paranoid authoritarian regime are much more consistent with laboratory origins than natural transmission, even if none of those clues measures up to smoking-gun proof.
“It seems to me that proponents of lab escape can explain all the available facts about SARS2 [Chinese coronavirus] considerably more easily than can those who favor natural emergence,” he added. “Proponents of natural emergence have a rather harder story to tell.”
Wade argued none of the key evidence for the animal transmission theory has been found – from the source of the coronavirus in nature, to the intermediate species that might have passed it to humans, to any evidence of the coronavirus slowly gathering strength among the human population as such diseases normally do. There isn’t even a solid explanation for why the outbreak began exclusively in Wuhan if animals were passing it to humans, since there are many other places in that region of China where they could have done so.
Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/05/10/renowned-scientists-publish-study-by-nyt-reporter-tying-coronavirus-to-chinese-lab/