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jimnyc
06-09-2021, 05:10 PM
Republicans are trying to rig the system. That's a good one! :rolleyes:

An audit is necessary. And fixing issues prior to '22-'24 - and more so putting to bed the democrats desires. The rest is fixing bullshit.

How the democrats can speak of this, while trying to enlist illegals and folks in jail to vote for them is beyond me. Their attempts to enter legislation to solidify their ways - and if you fight it you are trying to rig elections. Try to demand voter ID and you're rigging the elections. Pathetic BS.

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Republicans are out to create the rigged voting system they claim to be victims of

Our entire democracy is now at risk.” That was the note of alarm sounded last week by a group of prominent intellectuals on both the left and the right. The source of their concern are the Republican efforts, underway across the nation, to operationalize the “big lie”: the bogus claim that a vast conspiracy of fraud cost Trump the 2020 election.

Consider the audit recently ordered by the Republican-controlled state senate in Arizona of the 2.1m votes cast in Maricopa county in the 2020 presidential contest. Lest the audit confirm what has already been proven ad nauseam – that the count was accurate and free of fraud – the senate chose an obscure company called Cyber Ninjas to conduct the recount. Based out of Florida, Cyber Ninjas has no record of ever having conducted an election audit and neglected to even submit a bid for the Arizona job. But the tiny firm did have one thing going for it: its CEO, Doug Logan, a self-proclaimed “follower of Jesus Christ” and proud father of 11, was on record attacking the 2020 election as riddled with fraud.

Inspired by the Arizona case, Republicans in Georgia have demanded that their state undertake a similar “forensic” audit of the 2020 presidential count. And last Wednesday, a group of Republican state lawmakers from Pennsylvania paid a visit to the Arizona audit site, demanding that their home state conduct a like review.

The aim of these efforts is not to overturn the result of the 2020 election, despite Donald Trump’s fantasies to the contrary. Evidently the former president anticipates his reinstatement in the White House roughly two months from now, and his coming rallies will no doubt give him the opportunity to grandly cast himself as a latter-day Napoleon returning triumphantly to power from his palmy exile. But the audits are not designed to stamp Trump a ticket back to DC – at least not at present. The goal is not to oust Biden now, but to conspire against his reelection in 2024.

Rest - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/09/republicans-voting-rights-system-democracy

icansayit
06-09-2021, 07:43 PM
Somebody needs to tell ALL OF THE IGNORANT people who use the word DEMOCRACY wrong every time.
https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy
America is a republic and not a pure democracy.
The contemporary efforts to weaken our republican customs and institutions in the name of greater equality thus run against the efforts by America’s Founders to defend our country from the potential excesses of democratic majorities.

American republicanism and the ordered liberty it makes possible are grounded in the Federalists’ recognition that non-majoritarian parts of the community make legitimate contributions to the community’s welfare, and that preserving these contributions is the hallmark of political justice.

But, the careful balance produced by our mixed republic is threatened by an egalitarianism that undermines the social, familial, religious, and economic distinctions and inequalities that undergird our political liberty. Preserving the republican freedoms we cherish requires tempering egalitarian zeal and moderating the hope for a perfectly just democracy.

Gunny
06-09-2021, 08:17 PM
Republicans are trying to rig the system. That's a good one! :rolleyes:

An audit is necessary. And fixing issues prior to '22-'24 - and more so putting to bed the democrats desires. The rest is fixing bullshit.

How the democrats can speak of this, while trying to enlist illegals and folks in jail to vote for them is beyond me. Their attempts to enter legislation to solidify their ways - and if you fight it you are trying to rig elections. Try to demand voter ID and you're rigging the elections. Pathetic BS.

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Republicans are out to create the rigged voting system they claim to be victims of

Our entire democracy is now at risk.” That was the note of alarm sounded last week by a group of prominent intellectuals on both the left and the right. The source of their concern are the Republican efforts, underway across the nation, to operationalize the “big lie”: the bogus claim that a vast conspiracy of fraud cost Trump the 2020 election.

Consider the audit recently ordered by the Republican-controlled state senate in Arizona of the 2.1m votes cast in Maricopa county in the 2020 presidential contest. Lest the audit confirm what has already been proven ad nauseam – that the count was accurate and free of fraud – the senate chose an obscure company called Cyber Ninjas to conduct the recount. Based out of Florida, Cyber Ninjas has no record of ever having conducted an election audit and neglected to even submit a bid for the Arizona job. But the tiny firm did have one thing going for it: its CEO, Doug Logan, a self-proclaimed “follower of Jesus Christ” and proud father of 11, was on record attacking the 2020 election as riddled with fraud.

Inspired by the Arizona case, Republicans in Georgia have demanded that their state undertake a similar “forensic” audit of the 2020 presidential count. And last Wednesday, a group of Republican state lawmakers from Pennsylvania paid a visit to the Arizona audit site, demanding that their home state conduct a like review.

The aim of these efforts is not to overturn the result of the 2020 election, despite Donald Trump’s fantasies to the contrary. Evidently the former president anticipates his reinstatement in the White House roughly two months from now, and his coming rallies will no doubt give him the opportunity to grandly cast himself as a latter-day Napoleon returning triumphantly to power from his palmy exile. But the audits are not designed to stamp Trump a ticket back to DC – at least not at present. The goal is not to oust Biden now, but to conspire against his reelection in 2024.

Rest - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/09/republicans-voting-rights-system-democracy

Isn't that how the left rolls? Constantly making wild accusations, usually of something they are doing, just in case they can stick them to anything in the ballpark. Year after year, same old shit and same old non-response or weak.denial from the Republicans.