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jimnyc
06-12-2021, 04:12 PM
At first glance, these numbers seem large, seem scary. And in fact, when discussing vaccine deaths, they are in fact rather large. But in the large scope of things "with that said" as you just really can't diminish it, even if the grand picture look like small numbers.

As of the 7th of June, there were 5,208 deaths due to the vaccine
As of the 7th of June, there were 23,359 "serious injuries" - some will debate of course all those injuries as to whether they are 'serious' or not, and it will often be judgmental.

And as bad as that all may sound, and it is of course for any of them and their families, look at the percentages:

Those deaths equate to 0.0017%. That is quite a low number when you base it on approximately 302 million doses of the vaccine given out. Of course the injuries will work out to be a slightly higher number.

Then another follow-up on the virus stats, at least for the states that we were monitoring:

33,453,275 US total cases

3,801,408 cases
California US
63,185 deaths +4,155

2,976,198 cases
Texas US
51,889 deaths +3,755

2,344,321 cases
Florida US
37,265 deaths +4,018

2,108,628 cases
New York US
53,539 deaths +3,381

1,387,217 cases
Illinois US
25,469 deaths +1,942

1,128,467 cases
Georgia US
21,158 deaths +2,196

885,834 cases
Arizona US
17,740 deaths +822

996,986 cases
Michigan US
20,778 deaths +3,722

708,710 cases
Massachusetts US
17,937 deaths +807

677,671 cases
Virginia US
11,293 deaths +1,074

109,322 cases
Delaware US
1,679 deaths +127

fj1200
06-14-2021, 12:59 PM
As of the 7th of June, there were 5,208 deaths due to the vaccine


I don't think that's right.

"...
VAERS did receive 4,178 reports of deaths (0.0017% of all who received the vaccine) between Dec. 14, 2020 and May 3, 2021. However, these reports don’t point to a causal relationship between receiving the vaccine and death.
...
Missing context. There is no evidence that the deaths reported to VAERS after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine are caused by the vaccine. Healthcare providers are required to report any death after vaccination to VAERS.
..."

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-deaths/fact-check-vaers-reported-vaccine-deaths-have-not-been-confirmed-or-deemed-causal-by-cdc-idUSL1N2MZ2H8

jimnyc
06-14-2021, 01:19 PM
I don't think that's right.

"...
VAERS did receive 4,178 reports of deaths (0.0017% of all who received the vaccine) between Dec. 14, 2020 and May 3, 2021. However, these reports don’t point to a causal relationship between receiving the vaccine and death.
...
Missing context. There is no evidence that the deaths reported to VAERS after receiving the COVID-19 vaccine are caused by the vaccine. Healthcare providers are required to report any death after vaccination to VAERS.
..."

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-deaths/fact-check-vaers-reported-vaccine-deaths-have-not-been-confirmed-or-deemed-causal-by-cdc-idUSL1N2MZ2H8

Know how much time I spent on this? I started with the initial report, brought me to the CDC and the vaers.hhs.gov site and endless searching. Then like 100 sites and 200 or so article properly. Main reason being that the reports I was seeing were from an earlier period and I was trying to get the updated numbers through June. As you can see, I did in fact find them up to the first week of June.

I was mistakenly under the impression that since it ended with .gov that in fact all of the information was updated and statistically correct.

So I was suckered in via multiple sites and then sucked in with numbers based off of incorrect information. You should have told me this 2 days ago and saved me a couple of hours of search time ya filthy bastard!! :thumb:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-14-2021, 03:42 PM
Jim, numbers are still being lied about.
Do you think these filthy people suddenly decided to stop lying.
First they lied to make the death number higher in order to instill far greater fear!
Now they lie to make the death and injury numbers lower in order to get more people to take the shots.
THESE DAMN PEOPLE=== NEVER SRTOP LYING === MY FRIEND...

I TRUST THEM ABOUT AS FAR AS I CAN PICK UP AND TOSS MY HOUSE.
That has --ALWAYS-- served me well...-Tyr

jimnyc
06-14-2021, 04:09 PM
Jim, numbers are still being lied about.
Do you think these filthy people suddenly decided to stop lying.
First they lied to make the death number higher in order to instill far greater fear!
Now they lie to make the death and injury numbers lower in order to get more people to take the shots.
THESE DAMN PEOPLE=== NEVER SRTOP LYING === MY FRIEND...

I TRUST THEM ABOUT AS FAR AS I CAN PICK UP AND TOSS MY HOUSE.
That has --ALWAYS-- served me well...-Tyr

I should have known better to an extent. Similar to other deaths listed as covid deaths when they clearly died from another cause. I dumbly thought it was accurate, and as FJ pointed out, it's not clear and the entries are off. No appropriate relationships with what was reported, out of context or missing context & the major one of 'no evidence' that these deaths were from the vaccine. In other words, inaccurate numbers.'

And this is put out there by a government website and information fed from the CDC. :rolleyes:

fj1200
06-15-2021, 06:22 AM
... ya filthy bastard!! :thumb:

All I can do is straight up apologize and ask forgiveness. I can't say it won't happen again but... :cool:

Mika-El
06-16-2021, 11:18 AM
I had my second dose of Moderna Monday. I feel fine, here's my photo-no side effects:

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.09ZihlEPXojWRUxpO5USPAHaIV&pid=Api&P=0&w=300&h=300