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jimnyc
08-12-2021, 12:51 PM
What does everyone think? Was this shooting necessary? I don't think he needed to shoot and she really wasn't any kind of threat. But then again, congressional members are near on the other side. Not sure what his line of thinking was. I do know they should most certainly be investigation this though instead of sitting on this one while other folks sit in prison.

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President Trump Releases Statement About Ashli Babbitt’s killer – “There Must Be Justice”

President Trump released a statement about Ashli Babbitt today noting that he knows who shot and killed her.

President Trump is right. Ashli Babbitt was murdered by a Capitol police officer on January 6th. Today he released a statement noting this.

https://i.imgur.com/yaYj0JH.png

President Trump released his statement earlier today.

https://i.imgur.com/Sm4ThDc.png

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/president-trump-releases-statement-ashli-babbitts-killer-must-justice/

fj1200
08-12-2021, 12:56 PM
What does everyone think? Was this shooting necessary? I don't think he needed to shoot and she really wasn't any kind of threat. But then again, congressional members are near on the other side. Not sure what his line of thinking was. I do know they should most certainly be investigation this though instead of sitting on this one while other folks sit in prison.

Storm the capitol and don't be surprised if there's a shooting. One person comes through and eventually more people come through. What if someone behind her was more of a threat than she was?

jimnyc
08-12-2021, 12:58 PM
Storm the capitol and don't be surprised if there's a shooting. One person comes through and eventually more people come through. What if someone behind her was more of a threat than she was?

That's what I was wondering, his line of thinking. Did she have a weapon? Was she coming through followed by 500 more?

Something still feels wrong about it though.

Gunny
08-12-2021, 12:58 PM
She should not have been there.

That is no excuse for firing on an unarmed person under any other circumstance. I agree with Trump that had it been the other way around, cities would be burning.

The person who fired the shot should be held accountable. I want to hear the explanation that being on the other side of a window and inside a building put this person in fear for his life.

If he's allowed to use deadly force to protect a building, then what about that crazy ass couple in St Louis protecting theirs?

Lot of hypocrisy going on here.

fj1200
08-12-2021, 01:04 PM
That's what I was wondering, his line of thinking. Did she have a weapon? Was she coming through followed by 500 more?

Something still feels wrong about it though.

Feeling wrong to me started well before she was shot.


She should not have been there.

That is no excuse for firing on an unarmed person under any other circumstance. I agree with Trump that had it been the other way around, cities would be burning.

The person who fired the shot should be held accountable. I want to hear the explanation that being on the other side of a window and inside a building put this person in fear for his life.

If he's allowed to use deadly force to protect a building, then what about that crazy ass couple in St Louis protecting theirs?

Lot of hypocrisy going on here.

Every scenario should be considered separately. Protestors storming a police station should expect that someone might get shot.

I don't think fear of his life would be the deciding factor there but I'm not a capitol police officer with particular training. And stupid St. Louisites are also not a good comparison.

But I agree, there will be no consistent thinking on this.

Juicer66
08-12-2021, 02:47 PM
JUST A SNIPPET

January 6: ----- fake storming of the Capitol today, with a woman supposedly shot by a Capitol guard. Of course she turned out to be Air Force, 16-year veteran, so that was fake. You can tell by the blood, which isn't there. They forgot the moulage artist. Her name is Ashli Babbitt and it turns out she is Jewish and military intelligence. Note the nose and the handling.( photo left out ) She was “a high level security official”. So, let us guess: Lt. Colonel?
[Added August 4, 2021: despite the Pentagon now running damage control on Babbitt's obviously faked death, we are getting more proof of it daily. As just the latest example, today it was reported that as the result of a FOIA filing by Judicial Watch, government documents have been released proving the DC coroner requested and was granted cremation of Babbitt's body two days after the event, on Jan. 8. Note that date, since it is 1/8, aces and eights, Chai. ( standard numerology used by Deep State all the time . (ones [aces] , threes and eights are the most prolific )That should have been illegal, since the death was still under investigation, or should have been. It would be considered destruction of evidence. You never destroy a body in a potential murder case, for obvious reasons. In the emails the coroner's office admits Babbitt's case is “homicide”, which requires preservation of the body. Findagrave confirms the body was cremated and buried at sea, though of course there is no way to confirm that. Findagrave has scrubbed all information on her, listing no relatives or locations. Also confirming the fake is that the


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coroner's office requested and was granted that Babbitt's file be sealed, requiring security clearance. Also strange is that Babbitt's fingerprints were emailed to a US official Jamese Kororma, but the email was returned by a Chinese mail daemon, in Chinese characters. That is probably because the name was wrong, being James, not Jamese. A search on him finds a James Kororma in Woodbridge, VA, a black graphics specialist who has all the markers of CIA—not the least of which is Woodbridge, just a few miles south of Langley and a known spook community. He works for iQ Solutions, which not only looks like a CIA front, but it works for the Feds, being part of the Covid Response Initiative. So we need to ask why the DC Coroner needs a graphics specialist like Kororma to get involved with Babbitt's fingerprints. Probably to fake them, right? Also of interest is that the DC Coroner initially listed the deceased as Ashli Elizabeth Pamatian. See below for more on that.
Another problem is that this released information contains the finding from the DC coroner that the wound was to the “left anterior shoulder”. But what we were told in the media is that she was shot in the neck.

fj1200
08-12-2021, 04:16 PM
JUST A SNIPPET

Your already questionable credibility is plummeting in my book.

Juicer66
08-12-2021, 04:36 PM
Your already questionable credibility is plummeting in my book.

Of course it is . So it is good that you are just a random and virtual noise signal .


I wonder which assertion gave you the biggest problem ?

Oh, what a shame . I hoped there might be one marginal piece of real new thought you might have found .Not even a hint ? Not an itsy bitsy tangential sliver of evidence .

Just that you did not like it .

Sorry for hitting you with facts . Nasty things when they smack you hard .

Juicer66
08-12-2021, 04:49 PM
Your already questionable credibility is plummeting in my book.

ANOTHER PUZZLE TO EXPLAIN AWAY

study the film of the shooting. Everyone is looking at the wrong things, as usual. What you should notice at minute 2:00 is the four heavily armed security officers in black behind her, carrying automatic rifles. They are helmeted, backpacked, with shoulder patches and POLICE across the chest. They are already there when the shot is fired that allegedly drops Babbitt,being right behind her. They wait a couple of seconds after the shot is fired then mimic some theatrics, raising their rifles in military stance, as if they are protecting the crowd from fire from beyond the barrier.
This is a problem because these guys are either real police or they aren't.
Some are claiming they are rioters dressed as police, but the Capitol guards would never let people like that in. Even the mainstream isn't claiming rioters in full riot gear with automatic weapons drawn were in the Capitol that day, dressed as police. Which means that in this film allowed to be released by the government, we are supposed to think these four people are Capitol police of some sort. But if four police officers with weapons drawn are already standing right behind Babbitt, why would an officer on the other side of the barrier feel threatened by an unarmed Babbitt?
And here's a second question for you: if these police officers are not real police officers, but are rioters pretending to be, they would have to be there to protect fellow rioters, right? Why else have weapons drawn? So why do they do nothing when fellow rioter Babbitt is shot right in front of them? The barrier is mostly glass or Plexi, so they can see right through it. So how is it no one of them returns fire on the assailant. They just stand there stupidly.
Also notice the guy with a gray frontpack right behind Babbitt when she is shot. He also just stands there stupidly, not even stepping back or ducking. Is that what you would do if the person right next to you just got shot? Only if you knew the whole thing was an act, and that the shot was a blank.

NOT TO BE READ BY COMPLIANCE GULLIBLES SUFFERING FROM HEADACHES OR ANXIETY

LongTermGuy
08-12-2021, 05:05 PM
That's what I was wondering, his line of thinking. Did she have a weapon? Was she coming through followed by 500 more?

Something still feels wrong about it though.



The unarmed white women had NO weapons..


**Now Imagine this...Lets say she was black..Trump was in office...and a white Gov guy shot her...(that would be bad also)...But we know The media and the Democrats will be making a stink about it.....

God Bless Ashley Babbitt!!!

Oh BTW..no one mentioned that the Cap police let them (The Patriots) In...there is video of it and pic`s..

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-12-2021, 05:16 PM
Your already questionable credibility is plummeting in my book.

Said by a person-- with massively questionable character, credibility and reputation, imho...
So who cares??
A person that flies a false flag, no less...--Tyr

LongTermGuy
08-12-2021, 08:42 PM
Tonight Tucker had a good show on Ashly Babbitt...couldnt find it on youtube to post it..
But...I found a piece from back in June with Tucker (Ashly Babbitt) ...his opening is chilling...5 minutes long worth the view..

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKOeDQ2zWq0&amp;t=33s

fj1200
08-12-2021, 08:44 PM
Said by a person-- with massively questionable character, credibility and reputation, imho...
So who cares??
A person that flies a false flag, no less...--Tyr

You're nothing if not consistent when throwing in with crazy-bus Brits.

False flag. You're hilarious...ly not smart. It's good that you don't really challenge my posts; mindless rants are more your speed.

Nevertheless I don't think even you have gone down the faked death path on this one. I could be wrong and wouldn't actually be suprised if I were.

Gunny
08-14-2021, 09:30 AM
Feeling wrong to me started well before she was shot.



Every scenario should be considered separately. Protestors storming a police station should expect that someone might get shot.

I don't think fear of his life would be the deciding factor there but I'm not a capitol police officer with particular training. And stupid St. Louisites are also not a good comparison.

But I agree, there will be no consistent thinking on this.Not sure where I was Jan 6th (not the US Capitol), but I missed any real discussion on this. I will start with: lest anyone forget, I carried one or more firearms for 21 years. It's a lot bigger responsibility than dime store, gun-owning wannabe cowboys think. Literally, the power of life and death is in your hands. You best be clicking on all cylinders if and when you make the decision to drop the hammer. That bullet(s) ain't coming back.

On "expecting to get shot storming a police station". Since when? FTR, I would come to that same conclusion, but we're not talking clear thinks here (get to that). If you watch the news, internet or whatever, are you going to see people getting shot by police? Seems to me, th expectations of rioters/looters etc would be the police WON'T shoot. They don't shoot lefties. That's instant crucification for a cop.

But the left is defending this cop for shooting an "insurrectionist" rightwinger? Guess that cop wasn't defunded :rolleyes: Rioters took over the Federal building in Portland. Nobody got shot.

Moving right along ... I could only stare at the screen when this crap happened. My brain had to recalibrate to try and comprehend the level of stupid it took to pull this stunt. This a "conspiracy" and "insurrection"? So 2 or more people sat down and conspired to come up with THIS? This is a plan? Only the Chicken Little Dems could make this a plan. Or 2 drunk rednecks in a country bar on a Sat night.

"I know what let's do ... let's storn the US Capitol and stop them from certifying the vote:alcoholic:". The goal of this "plan" is what, exactly? The outcome of the votes being turned in for certification is on every media source in the World. Clem and Junior think there's only one vote written on one sheet of paper in the whole World and if they take it ...:rolleyes: Most missions I ever heard of have an attainable goal, the latter defining the former.

These people need to be locked up alright. They're a menace to themselves as much as anything else. What the F- did they think was going to happen? Congress reconvenes next day elsewhere. I don't consider myself genius for coming up with that outcome. Seems kind of obvious.

However, and going back to the beginning, I don't see this as any more reason to use deadly force than any of the left's shenanigans last year leading up to the election. I was jumping up and down in my pulpit then for Trump to use Federal troops. "Oh, he can't do that.:rolleyes:".

Republicans/conservatives/rightwingers/whatever need to get it through their heads about 60 years ago the Dems have ZERO qualms about using force against the American people. They won't use it against America's enemies. Just us. Not understanding that basic rule got this person killed.

It still does not excuse that officer firing his weapon based on the circumstances as they have been presented.

fj1200
08-14-2021, 10:27 AM
It still does not excuse that officer firing his weapon based on the circumstances as they have been presented.

I completely understand where you're coming from fully acknowledging I have neither the background, experience, etc. of yourself and others.

But with the circumstances, or at least as I understand them, presented I excuse the officer. It's tragic all around.

Gunny
08-14-2021, 10:55 AM
JUST A SNIPPET

January 6: ----- fake storming of the Capitol today, with a woman supposedly shot by a Capitol guard. Of course she turned out to be Air Force, 16-year veteran, so that was fake. You can tell by the blood, which isn't there. They forgot the moulage artist. Her name is Ashli Babbitt and it turns out she is Jewish and military intelligence. Note the nose and the handling.( photo left out ) She was “a high level security official”. So, let us guess: Lt. Colonel?
[Added August 4, 2021: despite the Pentagon now running damage control on Babbitt's obviously faked death, we are getting more proof of it daily. As just the latest example, today it was reported that as the result of a FOIA filing by Judicial Watch, government documents have been released proving the DC coroner requested and was granted cremation of Babbitt's body two days after the event, on Jan. 8. Note that date, since it is 1/8, aces and eights, Chai. ( standard numerology used by Deep State all the time . (ones [aces] , threes and eights are the most prolific )That should have been illegal, since the death was still under investigation, or should have been. It would be considered destruction of evidence. You never destroy a body in a potential murder case, for obvious reasons. In the emails the coroner's office admits Babbitt's case is “homicide”, which requires preservation of the body. Findagrave confirms the body was cremated and buried at sea, though of course there is no way to confirm that. Findagrave has scrubbed all information on her, listing no relatives or locations. Also confirming the fake is that the


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coroner's office requested and was granted that Babbitt's file be sealed, requiring security clearance. Also strange is that Babbitt's fingerprints were emailed to a US official Jamese Kororma, but the email was returned by a Chinese mail daemon, in Chinese characters. That is probably because the name was wrong, being James, not Jamese. A search on him finds a James Kororma in Woodbridge, VA, a black graphics specialist who has all the markers of CIA—not the least of which is Woodbridge, just a few miles south of Langley and a known spook community. He works for iQ Solutions, which not only looks like a CIA front, but it works for the Feds, being part of the Covid Response Initiative. So we need to ask why the DC Coroner needs a graphics specialist like Kororma to get involved with Babbitt's fingerprints. Probably to fake them, right? Also of interest is that the DC Coroner initially listed the deceased as Ashli Elizabeth Pamatian. See below for more on that.
Another problem is that this released information contains the finding from the DC coroner that the wound was to the “left anterior shoulder”. But what we were told in the media is that she was shot in the neck.


Was that acid trip good for you? Stupid :rolleyes:

People like you give freedom of speech a bad name.

jimnyc
08-14-2021, 11:09 AM
JUST A SNIPPET

January 6: ----- fake storming of the Capitol today, with a woman supposedly shot by a Capitol guard. Of course she turned out to be Air Force, 16-year veteran, so that was fake. You can tell by the blood, which isn't there. They forgot the moulage artist. Her name is Ashli Babbitt and it turns out she is Jewish and military intelligence. Note the nose and the handling.( photo left out ) She was “a high level security official”. So, let us guess: Lt. Colonel?
[Added August 4, 2021: despite the Pentagon now running damage control on Babbitt's obviously faked death, we are getting more proof of it daily. As just the latest example, today it was reported that as the result of a FOIA filing by Judicial Watch, government documents have been released proving the DC coroner requested and was granted cremation of Babbitt's body two days after the event, on Jan. 8. Note that date, since it is 1/8, aces and eights, Chai. ( standard numerology used by Deep State all the time . (ones [aces] , threes and eights are the most prolific )That should have been illegal, since the death was still under investigation, or should have been. It would be considered destruction of evidence. You never destroy a body in a potential murder case, for obvious reasons. In the emails the coroner's office admits Babbitt's case is “homicide”, which requires preservation of the body. Findagrave confirms the body was cremated and buried at sea, though of course there is no way to confirm that. Findagrave has scrubbed all information on her, listing no relatives or locations. Also confirming the fake is that the


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coroner's office requested and was granted that Babbitt's file be sealed, requiring security clearance. Also strange is that Babbitt's fingerprints were emailed to a US official Jamese Kororma, but the email was returned by a Chinese mail daemon, in Chinese characters. That is probably because the name was wrong, being James, not Jamese. A search on him finds a James Kororma in Woodbridge, VA, a black graphics specialist who has all the markers of CIA—not the least of which is Woodbridge, just a few miles south of Langley and a known spook community. He works for iQ Solutions, which not only looks like a CIA front, but it works for the Feds, being part of the Covid Response Initiative. So we need to ask why the DC Coroner needs a graphics specialist like Kororma to get involved with Babbitt's fingerprints. Probably to fake them, right? Also of interest is that the DC Coroner initially listed the deceased as Ashli Elizabeth Pamatian. See below for more on that.
Another problem is that this released information contains the finding from the DC coroner that the wound was to the “left anterior shoulder”. But what we were told in the media is that she was shot in the neck.




Keep in mind as well - if someone doesn't follow the usual of placing a link to the source at the bottom of their post, not only frowned upon - but some will take the writing as your own.

Gunny
08-14-2021, 11:25 AM
Keep in mind as well - if someone doesn't follow the usual of placing a link to the source at the bottom of their post, not only frowned upon - but some will take the writing as your own.

Personally, I see THAT as part of the ploy to posting fabrications like this. By design, it's for people who don't think past what they read and believe what it states. The left has used that tactic successfully against the right for years and years.