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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-14-2021, 08:18 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/new-covid-19-hospitalizations-for-30-to-39-year-olds-hit-record-rate/ar-AANjzfB?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531


The Wall Street Journal.
The Wall Street Journal.
New Covid-19 Hospitalizations for 30- to 39-Year-Olds Hit Record Rate
Melanie Evans, Taylor Umlauf - Yesterday 6:04 AM


New Covid-19 Hospitalizations for 30- to 39-Year-Olds Hit Record Rate
© Houston Cofield/Bloomberg News
New Covid-19 Hospitalizations for 30- to 39-Year-Olds Hit Record Rate
Hospitalizations of Covid-19 patients in their 30s have hit a new record, U.S. government data show, a sign of the toll that the highly contagious Delta variant is taking among the unvaccinated.

Thirty-somethings, who are in prime ages for work and parenting, had largely avoided hospital stays for Covid-19 during earlier phases of the pandemic because of their relative good health.


Yet the age group is seeing new Covid-19 hospital admissions increase during the recent Delta-driven surge, which doctors and epidemiologists attribute to the failure of large numbers of Americans to get vaccinated and their highly active lives.

The rate at which adults ages 30 to 39 are entering hospitals with Covid-19 reached about 2.5 per 100,000 people as of last Wednesday, according to the latest data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Department of Health and Human Services, up from the previous peak of roughly 2 per 100,000 people in early January.

“It means Delta is really bad,” said James Lawler, an infectious-disease physician and co-director of the Global Center for Health Security at the University of Nebraska Medical Center.

The strain is more transmissible, Dr. Lawler said, and studies indicate that infected people can develop more severe illness than from other strains.

The Delta variant was first identified in India and became the dominant strain in the U.S. in early July. It has pushed new infections higher after the drop that followed widespread rollout of vaccines earlier in the year.

New infections have climbed above 123,000 each day, using the seven-day average, which helps to smooth out irregularities in the data, according to Johns Hopkins University figures.

Hospitalizations, too, have increased from low points in the spring when more Americans became immunized.

Preliminary studies indicate vaccines protect against Delta, especially against severe cases or death, but the shots appear to be less effective against the variant than they are against the earliest versions of the coronavirus.

Uneven vaccination rates across the country and age groups has left pockets of people at risk from the tenacious Delta variant.

Nationally, slightly less than half of those ages 25 to 39 are fully vaccinated, compared with 61% of all adults, CDC data show. Ages are available for 92% of those fully vaccinated.

People ages 30 to 39 years accounted for about 170,852 new Covid-19 admissions of more than 2.5 million hospital stays since August last year, when the data became available. A surge in summer 2020 also saw rising Covid-19 cases among young people as they exited early lockdowns and resumed social activities.

Lately, hospital admissions among the age group have climbed rapidly, the CDC and HHS data indicate.

New hospital admissions of Covid-19 patients in their 30s hit 1,113 a day, on average, during the seven days that ended Wednesday, up from 908 the prior seven days. Recent numbers could change because reporting lags behind but would likely rise with additional reporting, epidemiologists said.

Even during the recent surge, young adults are at lower risk of Covid-19 hospitalizations than those in older age groups, according to CDC data. Risks of severe coronavirus infections increase with age and the health conditions that typically accompany getting older.

However, adults in their 30s also tend to be highly active socially and in the workplace, increasing their potential exposure to the Delta variant, said epidemiologists.

“It loves social mobility,” said Dr. James Fiorica, chief medical officer of Sarasota Memorial Health Care System in Florida, said of the variant. “An unvaccinated 30-year-old can be a perfect carrier.”

Active lifestyles can also make young adults more likely to spread the virus, making vaccination critical for those who have young children at home who aren’t yet eligible for shots, medical experts said.

“The most important way to protect kids is to make sure their parents are vaccinated,” Jennifer Nuzzo, an epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins.

Covid-19 patients in their 30s are arriving at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences hospital in Little Rock sicker than in earlier waves, said Nikhil Meena, medical director of the UAMS Medical Center’s intensive-care unit.

Doctors now frequently monitor younger patients daily with a scoring system for possible organ failure, Dr. Meena said. It wasn’t necessary for those in their 30s in previous surges. “This age group pretty much went unscathed,” he said. Now, “they’re all out there doing their thing and getting infected and getting sick enough to be in this hospital.”

Covid-19 patients in their 30s have also soared in Florida, where hospitalizations in the latest surge have set new pandemic records.

“They are people that shouldn’t be dying,” said Dr. Fiorica. One-third of Covid-19 patients ages 30 to 39 who were admitted to Sarasota Memorial Hospital since the pandemic began have arrived since June, when Delta began to push local cases higher.

Of four patients at Sarasota Memorial Hospital who died during a 24-hour period this week, one was a 38-year-old who wasn’t vaccinated, according to the hospital.

Write to Melanie Evans at Melanie.Evans@wsj.com

When the hell are people going to start realizing-- they make up numbers to advance whatever they want to advance!???
I mean -damn , that is how propagandists operate.
And they are waging a propaganda war on the American public!
Telling lie after lie....
Hell, they are operating exactly like the Nazi propaganda machine did.


Joseph Goebbels, in full Paul Joseph Goebbels, (born October 29, 1897, Rheydt, Germany—died May 1, 1945, Berlin), minister of propaganda for the German Third Reich under Adolf Hitler.


Wake up to what is actually going on...--:saluting2:
These people are out to destroy and then--remake-- our nation....... :salute: --Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-14-2021, 08:26 AM
Remember- these vermin work on the --divide and conquer strategy..
They have now got this nation divided-thanks to the damn totally sold out dem party...
Just remember which party hates the Constitution, hates Christianity and hates patriots--after that the rest is easy.--Tyr

LongTermGuy
08-14-2021, 09:41 AM
Non-Stop....day in day out....

fj1200
08-14-2021, 10:41 AM
What numbers did they make up?

Juicer66
08-14-2021, 10:55 AM
What numbers did they make up?

As the tests spew out endless False Positives , you simply just test more people until you have your desired new cases figures .

Similar to Opinion Polls .If you want a "Sleepy ' result you simply over represent Sleepy Fans ( Dumbocrats ) in your sample .

And you then amplify the results -- which you have to -- beyond the 25-28 cycles which then renders every result completely meaningless . Literally . You can make vegetables produce a positive reading .

Kids stuff . Not my opinion . Just simple facts

But Mugs and Gullibles just soak up anything they see or read

Juicer66
08-14-2021, 11:01 AM
What numbers did they make up?

Of course if you sneeze and cough you are automatically registered as a positive . Literally .

And what about Asymptomatics ?
They display no symptoms but are designated carriers and spreaders .By whom ? On what basis ?

Based on nothing . There is no such thing as an asymptomatic . But tell that to a Compliance Gullible .

Juicer66
08-14-2021, 11:29 AM
What numbers did they make up?


Have just been labelled HIV asymptomatic after I was caught chatting with two very OK gay men .

No problems . Expect they can inoculate me with some junk concoction because I am 100% receptive to placebo cures as I am a signed up Gullible and hold an up to date Compliance Certificate .

revelarts
08-14-2021, 12:28 PM
"New Covid-19 Hospitalizations for 30- to 39-Year-Olds Hit Record Rate" !!!!
the reaction they want
https://media.giphy.com/media/3LyZBPN2iv76muaPlu/giphy.gif


But if you read into the article.


"...The rate at which adults ages 30 to 39 are entering hospitals with Covid-19 reached about 2.5 per 100,000 people as of last Wednesday, according to the latest data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Department of Health and Human Services, up from the previous peak of roughly 2 per 100,000 people in early January....

will they Probably recover? 99+% Likely.

Seems like if ONE person Dies that the news media would try to make it LOOK LIKE the world is about to end.

It's past time that we "man-up" start understanding that this disease is something we are going to have to live with.
And stop pretending that every infection, and every hospitalization is a death sentence or the end of the world.

fj1200
08-14-2021, 12:47 PM
So I guess no numbers were made up. The emphasis seems to be the problem.

revelarts
08-14-2021, 01:19 PM
So I guess no numbers were made up. The emphasis seems to be the problem.



I can't say what numbers are made up.
But it's clear to me that Whatever the numbers are the MSM usually used them to generate FEAR. Fear equals clicks ..
and the a furtherance of their POV
and maybe their desired ends.

Here's a headline that's an exception to the rule.

Healthy under-50s are more likely to die from a car accident or an injury than Covid-19, leading statistician says

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454331/Under-50s-likely-die-car-accident-injury-Covid-19.html

....Britons under the age of 50 are more likely to die from an accident or injury than the coronavirus (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/coronavirus/index.html), according to one of the UK's leading experts.

Cambridge University statistician Sir David Spiegelhalter said there had been 959 Covid-19 deaths out of 18million people in that age range in England and Wales so far.
But more than 80 per cent of these victims had pre-existing health conditions that make the viral disease far more deadly than it otherwise would be.
Sir David said under-40s were more likely to die in a car accident than from Covid-19 and for under-25s, the risk was lower than dying from flu or pneumonia.
The professor said his analysis reinforced 'the extraordinary impact of age on the risk of catching and dying from Covid'. ....




This is a far more honest Headline and report than
"New Covid-19 Hospitalizations for 30- to 39-Year-Olds Hit Record Rate"

which does not give that perspective and couches the whole report on the NEW Dangers of DELTA, the GROWING hospitalizations.
And ends with "Of four patients at Sarasota Memorial Hospital who died during a 24-hour period this week, one was a 38-year-old who wasn’t vaccinated, according to the hospital."

Is it crazy to think they are not being completely honest, that they WANT folks to be afraid FJ?

Gunny
08-14-2021, 01:37 PM
"New Covid-19 Hospitalizations for 30- to 39-Year-Olds Hit Record Rate" !!!!
the reaction they want
https://media.giphy.com/media/3LyZBPN2iv76muaPlu/giphy.gif


But if you read into the article.



will they Probably recover? 99+% Likely.

Seems like if ONE person Dies that the news media would try to make it LOOK LIKE the world is about to end.

It's past time that we "man-up" start understanding that this disease is something we are going to have to live with.
And stop pretending that every infection, and every hospitalization is a death sentence or the end of the world.


So I guess no numbers were made up. The emphasis seems to be the problem.How do we calculate admitting an additional 1/2 person? Is Solomon sending them?

fj1200
08-16-2021, 08:24 AM
I can't say what numbers are made up.
But it's clear to me that Whatever the numbers are the MSM usually used them to generate FEAR. Fear equals clicks ..
and the a furtherance of their POV
and maybe their desired ends.

Here's a headline that's an exception to the rule.


This is a far more honest Headline and report than
"New Covid-19 Hospitalizations for 30- to 39-Year-Olds Hit Record Rate"

which does not give that perspective and couches the whole report on the NEW Dangers of DELTA, the GROWING hospitalizations.
And ends with "Of four patients at Sarasota Memorial Hospital who died during a 24-hour period this week, one was a 38-year-old who wasn’t vaccinated, according to the hospital."

Is it crazy to think they are not being completely honest, that they WANT folks to be afraid FJ?

I guess that was my point.

To the rest which of the two examples is currently a national health issue that can be ameliorated?

revelarts
08-16-2021, 09:32 AM
I guess that was my point.

To the rest which of the two examples is currently a national health issue that can be ameliorated?
"...which of the two examples is currently a national health issue..."
Both. Death is Death. both are ongoing.

"...that can be ameliorated?"
And they both can be ameliorated to a point, as long as all the option are on the table and discussed.
And constitutional means are used.

Telling everyone to STAY HOME will only help in auto accidents. Didn't do much at all for Covid.
But using LOCKDOWN to ameliorate either one is a piss-poor option.

Life has Risk, that's just the way it is.
We can't pretend to eliminated them all to everyone's satisfaction in a free country.
Guess what, Covid probably ain't going away. Thankfully most people recover from it with the treatments available ... if allowed to.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-16-2021, 09:43 AM
"New Covid-19 Hospitalizations for 30- to 39-Year-Olds Hit Record Rate" !!!!
the reaction they want
https://media.giphy.com/media/3LyZBPN2iv76muaPlu/giphy.gif


But if you read into the article.



will they Probably recover? 99+% Likely.

Seems like if ONE person Dies that the news media would try to make it LOOK LIKE the world is about to end.

It's past time that we "man-up" start understanding that this disease is something we are going to have to live with.
And stop pretending that every infection, and every hospitalization is a death sentence or the end of the world.

The sad part is the vaccine cheerleaders are hellbent on denying the negatives while they are also by and large hellbent on demanding every human on earth take the vaccine. Many of them taking that stand because they took it.
Well, I say fine take if your medical condition leads you to think it the prudent thing to do. I do not fault those that have decided based upon that wisdom!
I do fault those that did so out of abject fear and now out of that same overblown fear want to force us to take the stab!!
Tens of millions of us have decided it is not the prudent thing to do for us..
Thus we are vilified more and more each day.
Much akin to how the Jews in Germany were attacked until it worked its way into what finally occurred.
That is not a far-fetched analogy. As it is based upon human nature--AND WHAT FEAR CAN CAUSE, IMHO..
As history so clearly points to...-Tyr

edit:: by the way- that video points to how many of them feel and operate and in that irrational state-they demand others be forced or else destroyed..

revelarts
08-16-2021, 09:55 AM
....
To the rest which of the two examples is currently a national health issue that can be ameliorated?

PS-- you're asking the wrong guy about what's currently a national health issue. The question implies that I'm part of the crowd that's generally freaked out by the Covid. Look Covid, Terrorism, Killer Bees, ... Maybe it's becasue I'm generally a big picture thinker or I'm borderline autistic. But sure there's an initial bump in my fear but my logically brain begins to contextual the whole mess and deal with.
I've had MORE anxiety about other people's reactions to Covid-19! or Terrorist! or Iran! or Climate Change! or Russia! or Fill-in-the-blank supposed horror than from the so-called horrors themselves.
IMO NONE of them deserve the HYPE they've been given recently or over the years.

And the FEAR around them should be the focus of amelioration, so people can hopefully act more rationally about them.

What happened to the leadership that says, there's nothing to fear but fear itself?

fj1200
08-16-2021, 12:24 PM
"...which of the two examples is currently a national health issue..."
Both. Death is Death. both are ongoing.

"...that can be ameliorated?"
And they both can be ameliorated to a point, as long as all the option are on the table and discussed.
And constitutional means are used.

Telling everyone to STAY HOME will only help in auto accidents. Didn't do much at all for Covid.
But using LOCKDOWN to ameliorate either one is a piss-poor option.

Life has Risk, that's just the way it is.
We can't pretend to eliminated them all to everyone's satisfaction in a free country.
Guess what, Covid probably ain't going away. Thankfully most people recover from it with the treatments available ... if allowed to.

We've had decades to figure out traffic laws automotive regulations. The other is under 2 years with data changing every day.

If you want a thread about lockdowns it's either been done or can be done again.

People are being given the option of getting and recovering from COVID. Or not...


PS-- you're asking the wrong guy about what's currently a national health issue. The question implies that I'm part of the crowd that's generally freaked out by the Covid. Look Covid, Terrorism, Killer Bees, ... Maybe it's becasue I'm generally a big picture thinker or I'm borderline autistic. But sure there's an initial bump in my fear but my logically brain begins to contextual the whole mess and deal with.
I've had MORE anxiety about other people's reactions to Covid-19! or Terrorist! or Iran! or Climate Change! or Russia! or Fill-in-the-blank supposed horror than from the so-called horrors themselves.
IMO NONE of them deserve the HYPE they've been given recently or over the years.

And the FEAR around them should be the focus of amelioration, so people can hopefully act more rationally about them.

What happened to the leadership that says, there's nothing to fear but fear itself?

Long since gone it would seem. Four years ago it was Mexico, China, and global competition. This time 'round it's something else. Besides, I specifically called it an "issue" and not a "crisis."

fj1200
08-16-2021, 12:26 PM
What happened to the leadership that says, there's nothing to fear but fear itself?

One wonders.


... Much akin to how the Jews in Germany were attacked...

Yeah, we're right on the precipice. :rolleyes:

revelarts
08-29-2021, 09:54 AM
FYI
A chart that Johns Hopkins puts out that tracks hospitalization Trends

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/hospitalization-7-day-trend

JakeStarkey
08-29-2021, 11:09 AM
These people infected with Trumperism are delusional. True Americans who abhor Trumperism are out to make sure that science and American principles continue America's advance.

The libertarians will never, ever be in charge, and Trump power is over for even.


When the hell are people going to start realizing-- they make up numbers to advance whatever they want to advance!???
I mean -damn , that is how propagandists operate.
And they are waging a propaganda war on the American public!
Telling lie after lie....
Hell, they are operating exactly like the Nazi propaganda machine did.




Wake up to what is actually going on...--:saluting2:
These people are out to destroy and then--remake-- our nation....... :salute: --Tyr

jimnyc
08-29-2021, 11:59 AM
These people infected with Trumperism are delusional. True Americans who abhor Trumperism are out to make sure that science and American principles continue America's advance.

The libertarians will never, ever be in charge, and Trump power is over for even.

I hope you can get over your irrational and weird TDS before too awfully long - guess who may be your next president? Hint: It won't be Harris, not a chance in hell.

SassyLady
08-29-2021, 12:09 PM
These people infected with Trumperism are delusional. True Americans who abhor Trumperism are out to make sure that science and American principles continue America's advance.

The libertarians will never, ever be in charge, and Trump power is over for even.

Hey Starkey .. you still haven't answered why you think Biden is so much better at being a president than Trump.

Just give a quick list of this career politician's attributes and accomplishments. Not a list of what you think are Trump's failings.

I seriously don't think you can, therefore, you resort to trying to denigrate people who voted for and supported Trump during his presidency.

jimnyc
08-29-2021, 12:53 PM
Hey Starkey .. you still haven't answered why you think Biden is so much better at being a president than Trump.

Just give a quick list of this career politician's attributes and accomplishments. Not a list of what you think are Trump's failings.

I seriously don't think you can, therefore, you resort to trying to denigrate people who voted for and supported Trump during his presidency.

I've been reading a bunch of his crap. Drags in Trump stuff when he has nothing to do with it. Definitely someone with serious TDS and knowing that Biden is brain dead - and knowing that the TDS is going to get MUCH worse most likely!

JakeStarkey
08-29-2021, 01:54 PM
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?2275-Tyr-Ziu-Saxnot) makes things up.

SassyLady
08-29-2021, 02:07 PM
Tyr-Ziu Saxnot (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?2275-Tyr-Ziu-Saxnot) makes things up.

It's interesting that you are accusing him of exactly what you're doing. Where do you find your democratic talking points?

jimnyc
08-29-2021, 02:23 PM
It's interesting that you are accusing him of exactly what you're doing. Where do you find your democratic talking points?

So much made up by this one, over and over. :laugh:

fj1200
08-29-2021, 04:36 PM
FYI
A chart that Johns Hopkins puts out that tracks hospitalization Trends

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/hospitalization-7-day-trend

Anything to glean from that? The GA graph doesn't look good. They're delaying non-emergency procedures because of the lack of beds.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-29-2021, 08:36 PM
One wonders.



Yeah, we're right on the precipice. :rolleyes:

Trollish crap-- post that snippet of the comment made. Remove context...
Typical from a worm that would do anything to win...
Here below it is in its entirety not the snippet you posted in order to take it out of context.


"" Well, I say fine take if your medical condition leads you to think it the prudent thing to do. I do not fault those that have decided based upon that wisdom!
I do fault those that did so out of abject fear and now out of that same overblown fear want to force us to take the stab!!
Tens of millions of us have decided it is not the prudent thing to do for us..
Thus we are vilified more and more each day.
Much akin to how the Jews in Germany were attacked until it worked its way into what finally occurred.
That is not a far-fetched analogy. As it is based upon human nature--AND WHAT FEAR CAN CAUSE, IMHO..
As history so clearly points to...-Tyr""

---


You fj just keeeeeeeeeeeeep on proving you have no integrity, no honor..
No wonder those members said---- do not ever invite you back...
A male with no integrity and no honor is not ever a ---man---......-Tyr

fj1200
08-29-2021, 10:11 PM
Trollish crap--

Yeah, most people here are smart enough to know what's going on. The fact that I pulled out the most ridiculous part is what really galls you.

You do have a propensity to always fall back on unnamed members.