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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-17-2021, 04:15 AM
https://news.yahoo.com/taliban-takes-over-swap-iconic-080537111.html


Reuters
As Taliban takes over, some swap iconic AK-47s for made-in-America rifles
Tim Kelly
Tue, August 17, 2021, 3:05 AM
By Tim Kelly

TOKYO (Reuters) - The Russian Kalashnikov AK-47 and its derivatives have long been the assault rifle of choice for militant groups because of their rugged design, but some Taliban fighters are trading them in for captured U.S. guns as Afghanistan's government collapses.

Video and pictures published by the Taliban on Twitter and elsewhere show fighters carrying M4 carbines and M16 rifles discarded by Afghan army units. Other images show Taliban forces capturing abandoned government vehicles.


The U.S. guns are more accurate and have greater range than the their AK-47s, but on their own may not deliver much added capability on the battlefield.

"Some of the hardware might be useful to have if looking to intimidate rival warlords, but that's about it," said Grant Newsham, a retired United States Marine Corps colonel. "They’ve done rather well with what they already had."

Still, the image of U.S.-made weapons in the hands of the Taliban as it sweeps aside the Afghan National Army - funded with billions of dollars from the U.S. government over the past two decades - is a propaganda coup for the militants.

Many of the AK-47s in Afghanistan are copies, but some were left over from the 10-year Soviet occupation that ended in 1989. First manufactured just after the end of World War Two, based on a German design, the assault rifle has since become common around the world in the arsenals of governments and insurgent groups.

The American weapons could be in service with the Taliban for years because of plentiful ammunition supplies. The 5.56mm round it fires is available to civilian gun owners in the United States.

"The Russians crank out millions of rounds of AR 5.56 NATO each year for the U.S. market under the brand names of Tula, Wolf, and Red Army just to name a few," said another retired U.S. Marines officer, who asked not to be identified because his current employer does not allow him to talk to the media.

"I suspect the Taliban's allies will have no trouble supplying parts for just about any infantry system," he added.

(Reporting by Tim Kelly. Editing by Gerry Doyle)

As I noted before this article came to be....

The Biden gift, billions of dollars in military munitions vehicles , hardware and bases were just given to the Taliban on a golden platter.
We all should be asking the big question--WHY????
Why do the dems always seem to be aiding our enemies???
One may wake up to realize this truth- the Dems actually are our enemy (within)...
Something that I've seen and known for a few decades now....- :salute:

ThiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIInk- billions of dollars in military supplies handed over on a golden platter--that was not by accident or blindness-- that was definitely delibeeeeeeeeeeeerate!!!---- Tyr

Gunny
08-17-2021, 10:37 AM
As I noted before this article came to be....

The Biden gift, billions of dollars in military munitions vehicles , hardware and bases were just given to the Taliban on a golden platter.
We all should be asking the big question--WHY????
Why do the dems always seem to be aiding our enemies???
One may wake up to realize this truth- the Dems actually are our enemy (within)...
Something that I've seen and known for a few decades now....- :salute:

ThiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIInk- billions of dollars in military supplies handed over on a golden platter--that was not by accident or blindness-- that was definitely delibeeeeeeeeeeeerate!!!---- TyrOdds are good most of those weapons the Taliban are sporting on the tube came from weapons we armed Afghani forces with. I don't know of any US military personnel that would leave their weapons behind. It most certainly would be the last thing I would get rid of in a hostile, foreign country.

Gear on the other hand is considered expendable. We have gear prepositioned all over the World. In the event of a rapid deployment, we fly our troops in and dust off the stored gear and hit the grid. During Desert Storm, we had our rolling gear on the ships because we were already deployed. The units that flew in from CONUS, to include the Army, got their gear from maritime prepositioned ships. Ideally, organizational (unit vs personal) gear is handed over to replacement units.

I've never done it, but if a unit has to bug out, you leave anything that doesn't go bang and didi.

It is actually not a political/civilian decision. It's SOP. Justification is the gear isn't worth more loss of life.