I had no idea

[SassyLady]

Did you know that over 1.2M people died from TB in 2019. Why didn't I know this? Maybe because the MSM didn't publicize it? Isn't that enough to be considered a pandemic? It's the 10th leading cause of death.



https://tbfacts.org/deaths-from-tb/

Many people die as a result of TB. The mortality from TB, that is the number of deaths, is that TB is the tenth leading cause of death worldwide. TB is the leading cause from a single infectious agent, ranking above HIV/AIDS.

In 2019 an estimated 1.21 million people who were HIV negative died of TB.

In addition there were an estimated 208,000 deaths resulting from TB disease among people who were HIV positive.

So in 2019 there were an estimated total of 1,418,000 TB related deaths.

[icansayit]

Most all of the HIGH numbers I suspect we have seen from the GOVT. on Covid were boosted up INTENTIONALLY by other diseases like TB. There are actually Nurses, and One Doctor I know personally who demanded not to be exposed...but admitted Hospitals (in order to get the promised COVID Funding for Ventilators, masks, and other medical gear) Were instructed to AUTOMATICALLY JACK UP THEIR NUMBERS where most all deaths, and hospital visits for other things were INTENTIONALLY CALLED CASES OF COVID-19.

Think about it. More people became Billionaires, and Millionaires during the start of the PANDEMIC. Even SLEEPY JOE admitted that. And guess who stood to profit the most? POLITICIANS OF COURSE.

[Juicer66]

Did you also notice what I imagine is still third on the table ?

Medical profession killing patients one way or another . Millions this century already .

Add on Covid( Flu+ ) and Opeate related deaths( another CIA winner ) and the outlook is bleak .

[Juicer66]

Mistaken entry .

[fj1200]

Or because...

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/statistics/surv/surv2019/images/Slide3.PNG


is not a scary graph.

[SassyLady]

Or because...

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/statistics/surv/surv2019/images/Slide3.PNG


is not a scary graph.
It's still scary to me because I had no idea it was still killing at the rate it is. Even if the numbers are going down that's a lot of deaths per year. Why isn't it in the top of the news like covid?

Heart conditions and cancer are not transmitted from one human to another but TB is.

Do not try to minimize it just because it's not part of the fear porn being blasted at us by the MSM.

[fj1200]

It's minimized because there were 8900 cases of TB in 2019. And it's been falling steadily for 10 years at the least.

[SassyLady]

New data on tuberculosis trends in 198 countries


TB remains the top infectious killer in the world claiming close to 4000 lives a day. Millions of people continue to fall ill with TB- a preventable and curable disease each year. The Global TB Report 2020 provides a comprehensive and up-to-date assessment of the TB epidemic, and progress in the response, at global, regional and country levels in the context of global commitments and strategies.

https://www.who.int/teams/global-tuberculosis-programme/tb-reports/global-tuberculosis-report-2020

[SassyLady]

It's minimized because there were 8900 cases of TB in 2019. And it's been falling steadily for 10 years at the least.
Then how are 4000 people dying every day?
That's 1.4 million per year.

WHO reported that 465,000 people fell ill in 2019 do I don't know where you got your 8900 number.

[fj1200]

^Global numbers. I don't want to alarm you but apparently 229 million people had malaria in 2019 and 409,000 people died.

https://www.who.int/teams/global-malaria-programme/reports/world-malaria-report-2020

I'm not worried about catching either and not worried that neither are in the news.

EDIT: Sorry, I was quoting US numbers.

[SassyLady]

^Global numbers. I don't want to alarm you but apparently 229 million people had malaria in 2019 and 409,000 people died.

https://www.who.int/teams/global-malaria-programme/reports/world-malaria-report-2020

I'm not worried about catching either and not worried that neither are in the news.

EDIT: Sorry, I was quoting US numbers.

Is malaria transmisable from human to human?

[fj1200]

Why would that matter. Fear porn.

[SassyLady]

Why would that matter. Fear porn.
It matters because the world is afraid of covid as if it is the worst virus out there. It's not. People believe it is because of the fear porn being propagated by MSM and governmental health organizations.

Plus you tired to correlate malaria with TB. Apples and oranges.

[fj1200]

I correlated things that kill people. I thought that was our concern. Do you know how many died of COVID in 2019? Somewhere between 0 and 10 (taking a guess). Most TB deaths are in third world countries; COVID doesn't seem to follow the same pattern.

[revelarts]

Or because...

https://www.cdc.gov/tb/statistics/surv/surv2019/images/Slide3.PNG


is not a scary graph.
•••sarcasm alert••
Not a scary graph!!!?!?!?! 1st of all That so-called graph doesn't mean what you think it means!!
one thing that is does mean is UR obviously selfish. ignorant. tribal. misinformationist. and u love Trump. conspiracy nut.
Drink some bleach and die ydontcha?
You're not a loving caring person like the rest of us. Who trust the science and obey government.

Seems to me more Lockdowns, triple mask and several rounds of mandated TB vaccines are in order. to slow the spread.
And those that don't agree should not have jobs or be able to walk the street or have custody of children.
it's the only way to save lives.

[SassyLady]

I correlated things that kill people. I thought that was our concern. Do you know how many died of COVID in 2019? Somewhere between 0 and 10 (taking a guess). Most TB deaths are in third world countries; COVID doesn't seem to follow the same pattern.

My whole point is that the world is hysterical about covid. They should put it perspective with other contagious disease instead of being paralyzed by fear porn.

[fj1200]

•••sarcasm alert••
Not a scary graph!!!?!?!?! 1st of all That so-called graph doesn't mean what you think it means!!
one thing that is does mean is UR obviously selfish. ignorant. tribal. misinformationist. and u love Trump. conspiracy nut.
Drink some bleach and die ydontcha?
You're not a loving caring person like the rest of us. Who trust the science and obey government.

Seems to me more Lockdowns, triple mask and several rounds of mandated TB vaccines are in order. to slow the spread.
And those that don't agree should not have jobs or be able to walk the street or have custody of children.
it's the only way to save lives.

Seems the fact that we're not doing those things proves something about what we are doing about another health concern that's been in the news lately. :poke:

[fj1200]

My whole point is that the world is hysterical about covid. They should put it perspective with other contagious disease instead of being paralyzed by fear porn.

One of those things is not like the others.

[SassyLady]

I correlated things that kill people. I thought that was our concern. Do you know how many died of COVID in 2019? Somewhere between 0 and 10 (taking a guess). Most TB deaths are in third world countries; COVID doesn't seem to follow the same pattern.

As I said previously .. it's not about all types of death. It's about TB being just as dangerous as covid, per numbers, and yet there's no worldwide pandemic hysteria attached. Just because it's in 3rd world countries does not mean it can't be found in 1st and 2nd world countries.

[SassyLady]

One of those things is not like the others.
In what way?

[fj1200]

As I said previously .. it's not about all types of death. It's about TB being just as dangerous as covid, per numbers, and yet there's no worldwide pandemic hysteria attached. Just because it's in 3rd world countries does not mean it can't be found in 1st and 2nd world countries.

It's not as dangerous as covid in the US. It's not a worldwide pandemic. Of course it can be found in 1st world countries but the incidence is small as demonstrated which means it's not a pandemic.


In what way?

If I have to explain it then you'll never accept what it already is.

[SassyLady]

It's not as dangerous as covid in the US. It's not a worldwide pandemic. Of course it can be found in 1st world countries but the incidence is small as demonstrated which means it's not a pandemic.
So, number of deaths in US determines whether its a pandemic and 3rd world countries don't count. Got it.


If I have to explain it then you'll never accept what it already is.

That's a total cop out FJ. Try me. You're assuming just because you've accepted it means it is fact. Maybe I just can't see it yet because you have not explained it in a way that makes sense to me. Don't give up now.

[fj1200]

So, number of deaths in US determines whether its a pandemic and 3rd world countries don't count. Got it.

Pandemic has a definition and I didn't make it up. We can argue whether it's a pandemic or not...


A pandemic (from Greek (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek) πᾶν, pan, "all" and δῆμος, demos, "local people" the 'crowd') is an epidemic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epidemic) of an infectious disease (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infectious_disease) that has spread across a large region, for instance multiple continents (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continents) or worldwide, affecting a substantial number of people. A widespread endemic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endemic_(epidemiology)) disease with a stable number of infected people is not a pandemic. Widespread endemic diseases with a stable number of infected people such as recurrences of seasonal influenza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seasonal_influenza) are generally excluded as they occur simultaneously in large regions of the globe rather than being spread worldwide.

but it is not of concern in the US or probably Europe, Australia, or other medically advanced countries. Tragic in some countries but not here.


That's a total cop out FJ. Try me. You're assuming just because you've accepted it means it is fact. Maybe I just can't see it yet because you have not explained it in a way that makes sense to me. Don't give up now.

How many threads have we had here rehashing covid this and that over and over? Why bring it up here again and rehash the whole issue? You'll never accept that covid is different and new and an issue to be addressed and I do. COVID is not TB IMO.

[SassyLady]

How many threads have we had here rehashing covid this and that over and over? Why bring it up here again and rehash the whole issue? You'll never accept that covid is different and new and an issue to be addressed and I do. COVID is not TB IMO.

It is different. I don't deny that. It did, after all,, come out of a lab and humanity needs to adapt and we will.

However, our global governments have done more damage to the world than covid has. That is the difference fj. No other disease, even with millions dying from it, shut down the world and made trillions of dollars for those in control.

[fj1200]

It is different. I don't deny that. It did, after all,, come out of a lab and humanity needs to adapt and we will.

However, our global governments have done more damage to the world than covid has. That is the difference fj. No other disease, even with millions dying from it, shut down the world and made trillions of dollars for those in control.

Seemed like there was a bit of denial. No other disease was at 0 two years ago and has killed 4.5mm in less than two years. It deserves a response. Was it overkilll? Could be. Who has made trillions?

[JakeStarkey]

"perspective", sassy, is not contextualized with a 'big steal' lie.

[Gunny]

Seemed like there was a bit of denial. No other disease was at 0 two years ago and has killed 4.5mm in less than two years. It deserves a response. Was it overkilll? Could be. Who has made trillions?We have not "adapted" to the cold, nor the flu. We suffer through the former and get annual shots for the latter. We've been getting flu shots since the 80s at least.

Using the "building up natural immunity" theory is basically survive it or die. Half are afraid of dying from the flu and the other half are afraid of dying from the cure :rolleyes:

In the meantime, politicians are having a field day lying their asses off. Political points are more precious to them than solving the problem. Even more precious to them is keeping us distracted and divided while they do as they damned well please.

[fj1200]

We have not "adapted" to the cold, nor the flu. We suffer through the former and get annual shots for the latter. We've been getting flu shots since the 80s at least.

I got a primer on the flu from a CDC friend of mine and he explained* that the flu virus swirls around in pigs, birds, humans... and has different parts that are almost interchangeable in how they mutate more easily and is harder to nail down exactly what it is or will be when they come up with the vaccine. COVID is a completely different thing.

*My apologies for butchering his explanation.

[Gunny]

I got a primer on the flu from a CDC friend of mine and he explained* that the flu virus swirls around in pigs, birds, humans... and has different parts that are almost interchangeable in how they mutate more easily and is harder to nail down exactly what it is or will be when they come up with the vaccine. COVID is a completely different thing.

*My apologies for butchering his explanation.While not having my doctorate, I understand the basic science behind viruses.

This would be called an assumption, based on some knowledge and some guesswork: A bio weapons expert would be remiss when genetically altering a bio strain without enhancing its adaptability/survivability.

The US, more than any other country, has been thrown into complete chaos. That's as good as killing us from a weapons point of view. I would in fact consider it a far superior psychological weapon than just a pain in the ass virus. America's sense of invulnerability has been shattered and dragged through the mud. Even at this very moment, there's another run being made on TP :rolleyes:

If scientists could infuse the vaccine in TP we'd probably be getting somewhere. Americans want to hide behind cloth face covers and asswipe. What a crew:rolleyes: