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Kathianne
09-07-2021, 11:01 PM
Gunny saw this and found it interesting, your observations?

https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/us-troops-rage-at-their-leaders-will-grow-unless-theres-deep-reform/


US troops’ rage at their leaders will grow unless there’s deep reformBy Glenn H. Reynolds (https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/us-troops-rage-at-their-leaders-will-grow-unless-theres-deep-reform/#)




Our military’s civilian leadership is corrupt and incompetent. The brass commands respect neither among the citizenry nor the forces it commands. Mid-level officers are in a rage — a dangerous phenomenon that in many other nations triggers insurrections and coups.
Blessedly, our institutions retain enough strength to prevent such outcomes here. That said, we need to tend to those institutions more carefully, if we want them to continue to work.

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Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller resigned his commission after Kabul to demand accountability from his superiors. He couldn’t stay, he said, because he had lost trust and confidence in them. His words have been echoed, publicly and in private, by many others of similar rank. (I received an e-mail from a serving general making the same points.)
This is against the background of endless loose talk by our high political leaders about “coups,” “insurrections” and “sedition.” The laughable Capitol “riot” certainly didn’t rise to that level, but in a show of insecurity, the Capitol was ringed by 25,000 troops, several times as many as were sent to rescue Americans from Kabul. Banana republic stuff.
Generally speaking, a nation where the civilian leadership fears its citizens and has lost the nation’s confidence, and where the senior military leadership has lost the confidence of those down the chain of command, is a nation in trouble.
Elsewhere, such circumstances would be supply the dry tinder for a military coup. Fortunately, the United States is a bit more resistant (http://hrlr.law.columbia.edu/files/2018/01/Of-Coups-and-the-Constitution.pdf). With so much of our government, and even our domestic military force, divided up among the states, a coup is much harder to pull off. And with our institutions, weakened as they are, still comparatively strong, we aren’t likely to see a “Seven Days in May” scenario in the near future.

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There's more at those ellipsis, but the gist is here.

SassyLady
09-08-2021, 12:19 AM
@Gunny (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=30) saw this and found it interesting, your observations?

https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/us-troops-rage-at-their-leaders-will-grow-unless-theres-deep-reform/



There's more at those ellipsis, but the gist is here.

My theory ... if the powers to be feel the troops are out of line it will give them reason to bring in UN military. More movement toward globalism.

Kathianne
09-08-2021, 12:41 AM
My theory ... if the powers to be feel the troops are out of line it will give them reason to bring in UN military. More movement toward globalism.
You're seeing something I'm missing. I'm seeing an analysis of the repercussions of executive decisions on those following orders and dangers that could occur downtime.

SassyLady
09-08-2021, 01:07 AM
You're seeing something I'm missing. I'm seeing an analysis of the repercussions of executive decisions on those following orders and dangers that could occur downtime.

I hear things ... like the administration, including military leaders, are taking actions to create "tinder" that could be the spark needed to call in the UN.

Juicer66
09-08-2021, 03:41 AM
You are all rather late . This kicked off around 9 months ago . Probably earlier .

Classic 'Spin' operation .

Sorry . Of course that is far too rich and smacks of Conspiracy Theory . You know about them --- the ones that always strangely to turn out to be right . But if you are thinking

in terms of the UN , forget it . They 'run' the opposition !!



P.S. Admittedly the Firmament and Flat Earth brigades seem badly 'off beam ' though I love the Hollow Moon and Antarctica is a 'belter' .

Kathianne
09-08-2021, 05:12 AM
I hear things ... like the administration, including military leaders, are taking actions to create "tinder" that could be the spark needed to call in the UN.
I don't doubt that, just not seeing it in this particular article.

Juicer66
09-08-2021, 05:30 AM
I don't doubt that, just not seeing it in this particular article.


If ( if ) the Military are to be involved on an intervention basis they are not going to disclose any details up front -- be it to the NYP or Father Xmas .

Need to know etc

JakeStarkey
09-08-2021, 05:56 AM
You nervous Nellies.

SassyLady
09-08-2021, 06:31 PM
I don't doubt that, just not seeing it in this particular article.
Yeah, I wasn't trying analyze the article itself. I was just sharing the things I've heard about the disquiet that's building up in the military.

Wasn't trying to derail the thread.

Gunny
09-08-2021, 07:09 PM
@Gunny (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=30) saw this and found it interesting, your observations?

https://nypost.com/2021/09/07/us-troops-rage-at-their-leaders-will-grow-unless-theres-deep-reform/



There's more at those ellipsis, but the gist is here.Articles such as this are the prelude to a purge. They will call it "drawdown". I suspected it was going to come sooner or later when we got about 2 sentences worth of media about that racist DepSecDef pushing CRT.

They'll call it a drawdown and shave some numbers. Most of that is lost in 1st termer attrition. Some retirements. Everybody else gets to compete for the rest of the slots and you best be singing their tune loud and clear or "not recommended for promotion/reenlistment" which leads to term limit per rank, which just puts you out. Just didn't make the cut. Sorry.

In the meantime, noobs piling in every week can be trained "appropriately". The middle number of folk I described above will just sort of fade out. Can completely turn over military personnel in 5-10 years. Oh yeah, don't forget the dumba$$es that get busted and kicked out.

The Dems especially won't tell us that. It's just a personnel drawdown post-war. It will save the taxpayers money in personnel and budget. Nobody's loved-one is deployed anymore. Except for all those that are :rolleyes:

Nobody can prove otherwise.