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jimnyc
09-27-2021, 06:23 PM
As I said earlier, we are never going to know the entire truth. Machines were never audited and certified properly, logs deleted and FULL audits have still not been completed as a result of this - and much more not nearly completed. But this is what happens when you jump on the first story and run with it as gospel and fully completed. A bunch here have already pointed out things that were not included and were never counted properly.

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Arizona 2020 Vote Audit Finds Potentially Election-Shifting Numbers Of Illegal Ballots

While the reports made several significant findings supporting former President Trump’s complaints about the 2020 election, the corporate media ignored those aspects of the audit.

On Friday, the Arizona State Senate released the final reports on the results of the Maricopa County Forensic Election Audit. While the reports made several significant findings supporting former President Trump’s complaints about the 2020 election, the corporate media ignored those aspects of the audit to focus instead only on the results of the hand recount.

As broadly reported, the audit established “there were no substantial differences between the hand count of the ballots provided and the official canvass results for the County.” Maricopa County, which represents Arizona’s most populous county thanks to its county seat of Phoenix, had provided Biden a 45,000-vote advantage in the state, propelling Biden to a victory by 10,457 votes. So the media presented the recount as confirming Biden’s victory in the state.

Left unmentioned, however, were the numerous findings of problems with the election and, most significantly, evidence indicating tens of thousands of ballots were illegally cast or counted. A report entitled “Compliance with Election Laws and Procedures,” issued by Senate Audit Liaison Ken Bennett, highlighted several issues, of which two were particularly significant because of the number of votes involved.

First, Bennett excerpted the Arizona statutory provisions governing early ballots. Those provisions require early ballots to be accompanied by a signed affidavit in which the voter declares he is registered in the appropriate county and has not already voted. The statute further mandates that a voter “make and sign the affidavit,” and directs the early election board to check the voter’s affidavit.

Significantly, “if the affidavit is insufficient, the vote shall not be allowed.” The secretary of state’s Election Procedures Manual reinforces this point, stating: “If the early ballot affidavit is not signed, the County Recorder shall not count the ballot.”

In his report, Bennett noted that “while the Audit scope of work did not include comparing signatures with voter registration records for each voter, it did identify a number of missing signatures on ballot envelop affidavits, which to the extent the ballots in such envelopes were tallied, would violate the above statutes and procedures.”

Although Bennett did not elaborate on the issues related to affidavit signatures or the numbers of affected ballots, in a 99-page report, Massachusetts Institute of Technology engineer Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai detailed numerous anomalies.

First, Ayyadurai analyzed the early voting ballot return envelopes, on which voters were required to sign an affidavit within a signature block. That review revealed more than 17,000 duplicate images of the return envelopes. When the duplicates were eliminated from the review, Ayyadurai’s company, EchoMail, concluded that Maricopa County had recorded more than 6,545 early voting return envelopes than EchoMail determined existed. EchoMail also concluded that another approximately 500 of the envelopes’ affidavits were left blank.

Ayyadurai also highlighted several implausible statistics, such as that while there was a 52.6 percent increase from 2016 to 2020 in the number of early voting ballots, Maricopa County reported a decrease in signature mismatches of 59.7 percent. “This inverse relationship requires explanation,” the report noted, and then recommended a full audit of the signatures.

Bennett’s report on election law compliance highlighted several additional issues, but of particular note, in light of the audit report, was his reference to Arizona’s statutory requirements for individuals to be considered eligible voters, as delineated in Articles 1, 1.1, and 2 of the Arizona election code.

“The Audit identified numerous questions regarding possible ineligible voters,” Bennett noted, while adding that because “these determinations were made from comparisons between the County’s final voted information and private data sources,” the cooperation of Maricopa County and further investigation would be necessary to “determine whether ineligible persons actually were allowed to vote in the 2020 election.”

The referenced articles of the election code discuss voter registration requirements and the requirement for individuals to be registered to vote at their address of residence, although individuals moving within 29 days of the election remain properly registered to vote in the county in which they previously resided. However, students, members of the military, and others temporarily living at another address remain properly registered at their permanent home address.

Also of significance is the Arizona secretary of state’s Election Procedures Manual, which according to the audit provides that “ballot-by-mail must be mailed to voters by first-class, nonforwardable mail.”

These statutory provisions and procedures prove significant because the audit revealed that 15,035 mail-in votes in Maricopa County were from voters who had moved prior to the registration deadline, another 6,591 mail-in-votes came from voters who had moved out of Arizona prior to the registration deadline, and 1,718 mail-in votes came from voters who moved within Arizona but out of Maricopa prior to the registration deadline.

Rest - https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/27/arizona-2020-vote-audit-finds-potentially-election-shifting-numbers-of-illegal-ballots/

JakeStarkey
09-27-2021, 06:27 PM
I agree with Jimnyc.

We are not going to know just how many Democratic votes were suppressed in Maricopa County, Arizona.

The GOP Maricopa Audit did verify that Trump lost.

JakeStarkey
09-27-2021, 06:29 PM
[from jimnyc] Arizona Vote Audit Finds Potentially Election-Shifting Numbers Of Illegal Ballots
As I said earlier, we are never going to know the entire truth. Machines were never audited and certified properly, logs deleted and FULL audits have still not been completed as a result of this - and much more not nearly completed. But this is what happens when you jump on the first story and run with it as gospel and fully completed. A bunch here have already pointed out things that were not included and were never counted properly.

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Arizona 2020 Vote Audit Finds Potentially Election-Shifting Numbers Of Illegal Ballots

While the reports made several significant findings supporting former President Trump’s complaints about the 2020 election, the corporate media ignored those aspects of the audit.

On Friday, the Arizona State Senate released the final reports on the results of the Maricopa County Forensic Election Audit. While the reports made several significant findings supporting former President Trump’s complaints about the 2020 election, the corporate media ignored those aspects of the audit to focus instead only on the results of the hand recount.

As broadly reported, the audit established “there were no substantial differences between the hand count of the ballots provided and the official canvass results for the County.” Maricopa County, which represents Arizona’s most populous county thanks to its county seat of Phoenix, had provided Biden a 45,000-vote advantage in the state, propelling Biden to a victory by 10,457 votes. So the media presented the recount as confirming Biden’s victory in the state.

Left unmentioned, however, were the numerous findings of problems with the election and, most significantly, evidence indicating tens of thousands of ballots were illegally cast or counted. A report entitled “Compliance with Election Laws and Procedures,” issued by Senate Audit Liaison Ken Bennett, highlighted several issues, of which two were particularly significant because of the number of votes involved.

First, Bennett excerpted the Arizona statutory provisions governing early ballots. Those provisions require early ballots to be accompanied by a signed affidavit in which the voter declares he is registered in the appropriate county and has not already voted. The statute further mandates that a voter “make and sign the affidavit,” and directs the early election board to check the voter’s affidavit.

Significantly, “if the affidavit is insufficient, the vote shall not be allowed.” The secretary of state’s Election Procedures Manual reinforces this point, stating: “If the early ballot affidavit is not signed, the County Recorder shall not count the ballot.”

In his report, Bennett noted that “while the Audit scope of work did not include comparing signatures with voter registration records for each voter, it did identify a number of missing signatures on ballot envelop affidavits, which to the extent the ballots in such envelopes were tallied, would violate the above statutes and procedures.”

Although Bennett did not elaborate on the issues related to affidavit signatures or the numbers of affected ballots, in a 99-page report, Massachusetts Institute of Technology engineer Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai detailed numerous anomalies.

First, Ayyadurai analyzed the early voting ballot return envelopes, on which voters were required to sign an affidavit within a signature block. That review revealed more than 17,000 duplicate images of the return envelopes. When the duplicates were eliminated from the review, Ayyadurai’s company, EchoMail, concluded that Maricopa County had recorded more than 6,545 early voting return envelopes than EchoMail determined existed. EchoMail also concluded that another approximately 500 of the envelopes’ affidavits were left blank.

Ayyadurai also highlighted several implausible statistics, such as that while there was a 52.6 percent increase from 2016 to 2020 in the number of early voting ballots, Maricopa County reported a decrease in signature mismatches of 59.7 percent. “This inverse relationship requires explanation,” the report noted, and then recommended a full audit of the signatures.

Bennett’s report on election law compliance highlighted several additional issues, but of particular note, in light of the audit report, was his reference to Arizona’s statutory requirements for individuals to be considered eligible voters, as delineated in Articles 1, 1.1, and 2 of the Arizona election code.

“The Audit identified numerous questions regarding possible ineligible voters,” Bennett noted, while adding that because “these determinations were made from comparisons between the County’s final voted information and private data sources,” the cooperation of Maricopa County and further investigation would be necessary to “determine whether ineligible persons actually were allowed to vote in the 2020 election.”

The referenced articles of the election code discuss voter registration requirements and the requirement for individuals to be registered to vote at their address of residence, although individuals moving within 29 days of the election remain properly registered to vote in the county in which they previously resided. However, students, members of the military, and others temporarily living at another address remain properly registered at their permanent home address.

Also of significance is the Arizona secretary of state’s Election Procedures Manual, which according to the audit provides that “ballot-by-mail must be mailed to voters by first-class, nonforwardable mail.”

These statutory provisions and procedures prove significant because the audit revealed that 15,035 mail-in votes in Maricopa County were from voters who had moved prior to the registration deadline, another 6,591 mail-in-votes came from voters who had moved out of Arizona prior to the registration deadline, and 1,718 mail-in votes came from voters who moved within Arizona but out of Maricopa prior to the registration deadline.

Rest - https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/27...legal-ballots/ (https://thefederalist.com/2021/09/27/arizona-2020-vote-audit-finds-potentially-election-shifting-numbers-of-illegal-ballots/)

SassyLady
09-27-2021, 06:30 PM
I agree with Jimnyc.

We are not going to know just how many Democratic votes were suppressed in Maricopa County, Arizona.

The GOP Maricopa Audit did verify that Trump lost.

Please link your source.
:link:

jimnyc
09-27-2021, 06:36 PM
Facts remain that there was TONS of illegal findings - and the Dems fought and continue to fight tooth and nail to prevent Americans from finding out exactly what took place. Logs are NOT supposed to be deleted. Machines are supposed to be certified. Machines were NOT supposed to go online or have modems inside them. All kinds of irregularities and a side that fights like hell from 'the people' seeing logs and knowing the facts of the election.

Gunny
09-27-2021, 06:43 PM
Facts remain that there was TONS of illegal findings - and the Dems fought and continue to fight tooth and nail to prevent Americans from finding out exactly what took place. Logs are NOT supposed to be deleted. Machines are supposed to be certified. Machines were NOT supposed to go online or have modems inside them. All kinds of irregularities and a side that fights like hell from 'the people' seeing logs and knowing the facts of the election.The Dems have been fighting legal voting at every turn. Based on their behavior, elections would be free for alls if left up to them.

JakeStarkey
09-27-2021, 07:26 PM
The free for alls will continue if the GOP keeps up fraudits.

Once again, the AZ Audit by the GOP found that Trump lost.

jimnyc
09-27-2021, 08:31 PM
Certainly can't say anything definitive proven with this - but without a full audit allowed, and knowing all of these anomalies and irregularities, it will leave a lot with questions.

So I'm not saying as a fact that loads of fraud took place here. Nor am I saying that this audit answered all of our questions.

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AZ Audit Could Not Find the Identity of 86,391 Voters – They Don’t Appear to Exist and 73.8% Are Democrat or No Party Affiliation

The Arizona audit could not find an identity match on 86,391 people. This is disclosed on Page 56 of the “Results Details” report.

These Maricopa voters cast ballots in Nov 2020 and don’t seem to exist. The ones registered as Democrat or selected no party affiliation represent a whopping 73.8% of these unknown voters. That’s 63,757 ballots. Not selecting a party makes monitoring of nefarious registrations much harder as everything not R or D is bulked together as “Other”. Even the new State voter registration form now only has only 3 categories (R, D, Other) and some registration reporting reduced to similar.

https://i.imgur.com/lcqLs98.jpg

Cyber Ninja’s used Melissa Personator which is arguably the best commercial service to validate U.S. or Canadian identities (https://www.melissa.com/personator-consumer?2=8). It scours private and government databases including USPS and Social Security Administration. Cyber Ninja’s oddly concludes most of these “unknowns” might be real people that just have limited public records. Our name, DOB, SS#, and address are in every State and Fed database. If you can’t be found using these credentials, something is definitely wrong.

The Ninja’s didn’t consider Maricopa’s history, it’s registration battles, or issues with non-citizen voters. They make no consideration the database might have been manipulated but know it was hacked Nov. 5th 2020. Had the Senate subpoenaed Maricopa’s VRAS servers and tasked CyFIR to investigate, we might know a whole lot more.

Much much more - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/not-making-headlines-az-audit-not-find-identity-86391-voters-dont-appear-exist-73-8-democrat-no-party-affiliation/

SassyLady
09-27-2021, 08:50 PM
The free for alls will continue if the GOP keeps up fraudits.

Once again, the AZ Audit by the GOP found that Trump lost.

The audit proved without a doubt there was fraud.

jimnyc
09-27-2021, 08:57 PM
The audit proved without a doubt there was fraud.

or at a minimum, enough information to force a full audit, which is what should have been done there and quite a few other places, IMO.

JakeStarkey
09-28-2021, 06:24 AM
The people who conducted the audit said their was no systemic fraud or vote changing that affected the election.

Maricopa County indeed rejected Trump as unwanted.

jimnyc
09-28-2021, 12:49 PM
The people who conducted the audit said their was no systemic fraud or vote changing that affected the election.

Maricopa County indeed rejected Trump as unwanted.

Stick to the content in the posts and debate that or discuss it, or someone's reply if you choose to debate them. But STOP with the repetitive, off topic, Trump and other ramblings. You will find yourself being banned from threads, having your posts merged with your own BS.

If you think you are going to test and push me more and more and win, you're sorely mistaken.

Please at least try to stick to topics, discuss topics & stop with your BS. Notice I have been asking nicely, please, not pushing and being a dick. And yet you push things anyway. Your choice if you would like to actually discuss things here, Jake, or not.

Gunny
09-28-2021, 01:26 PM
Certainly can't say anything definitive proven with this - but without a full audit allowed, and knowing all of these anomalies and irregularities, it will leave a lot with questions.

So I'm not saying as a fact that loads of fraud took place here. Nor am I saying that this audit answered all of our questions.

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AZ Audit Could Not Find the Identity of 86,391 Voters – They Don’t Appear to Exist and 73.8% Are Democrat or No Party Affiliation

The Arizona audit could not find an identity match on 86,391 people. This is disclosed on Page 56 of the “Results Details” report.

These Maricopa voters cast ballots in Nov 2020 and don’t seem to exist. The ones registered as Democrat or selected no party affiliation represent a whopping 73.8% of these unknown voters. That’s 63,757 ballots. Not selecting a party makes monitoring of nefarious registrations much harder as everything not R or D is bulked together as “Other”. Even the new State voter registration form now only has only 3 categories (R, D, Other) and some registration reporting reduced to similar.

https://i.imgur.com/lcqLs98.jpg

Cyber Ninja’s used Melissa Personator which is arguably the best commercial service to validate U.S. or Canadian identities (https://www.melissa.com/personator-consumer?2=8). It scours private and government databases including USPS and Social Security Administration. Cyber Ninja’s oddly concludes most of these “unknowns” might be real people that just have limited public records. Our name, DOB, SS#, and address are in every State and Fed database. If you can’t be found using these credentials, something is definitely wrong.

The Ninja’s didn’t consider Maricopa’s history, it’s registration battles, or issues with non-citizen voters. They make no consideration the database might have been manipulated but know it was hacked Nov. 5th 2020. Had the Senate subpoenaed Maricopa’s VRAS servers and tasked CyFIR to investigate, we might know a whole lot more.

Much much more - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/not-making-headlines-az-audit-not-find-identity-86391-voters-dont-appear-exist-73-8-democrat-no-party-affiliation/Comforting to know :rolleyes:

Isn't it amazing we have tools such as this and others similar. They can tell you how many people watched the Superbowl before the next day.

Yet our election process is 2nd grade BS.

MtnBiker
09-28-2021, 02:25 PM
PHOENIX – The Arizona Attorney General’s Office is seeking more information from the Arizona Senate regarding the Cyber Ninjas-led review of the 2020 election in metro Phoenix and wants Maricopa County to preserve its documentation.Assistant Attorney General Jennifer Wright sent a letter (https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/948f471e-c9f6-c793-2ca6-4f1efa65a961/210928_Letter_to_Fann_re_Report.pdf) to the Senate on Tuesday requesting supporting documents from the report that contractors presented last week.
The letter requests unredacted copies of all reports, evidence supporting findings presented by Shiva Ayyadurai and Ben Cotton, and the chance to meet individually with each of the contractors involved with the report.
Wright also wrote a letter (https://mcusercontent.com/cc1fad182b6d6f8b1e352e206/files/512f7fc6-95fb-989b-d0e8-ac05f740f1a9/210927_Letter_to_Maricopa_County_re_Litigation_Hol d.pdf) asking Maricopa County officials to put a “litigation hold” on a slew of items related to their November election, including hard copies, emails, electronic data and video footage.

“The Arizona Senate’s report that was released on Friday raises some serious questions regarding the 2020 election,” Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich, a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in 2022, said in the release.The AG’s Office won’t discuss specific allegations until its Elections Integrity Unit (https://www.azag.gov/criminal/eiu) finishes reviewing the material, according to a Tuesday press release (https://www.azag.gov/press-release/attorney-general-mark-brnovich-requests-additional-information-2020-general-election).
“Arizonans can be assured our office will conduct a thorough review of the information we receive.”
Contractors hired earlier this year by Arizona Senate Republican leaders to review the 2020 election in the state’s largest county released their findings Friday during a livestreamed (https://player.invintus.com/?clientID=6361162879&eventID=2021091005) meeting and posted their report online (https://www.azsenaterepublicans.com/audit).
The contractors’ hand recount, one part of the review, affirmed President Joe Biden’s victory with numbers close to the ones certified in November by state officials, including Brnovich and Republican Gov. Doug Ducey.
Senate President Karen Fann said she had concerns about “several items” and was forwarding the reports to Brnovich’s office to consider for further investigation.
“I will take all necessary actions that are supported by the evidence and where I have legal authority,” Brnovich said in a press release after the report came out Friday.

https://ktar.com/story/4704652/arizona-ag-reaches-out-to-senate-maricopa-county-about-election-review-findings/

MtnBiker
09-28-2021, 03:17 PM
Here is a link to the letter sent by the Arizona Attorney General's office to the Arizona State Senate.

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/docs/press-releases/2021/letters/210928_Letter_to_Fann_re_Report.pdf

and here is the link to Maricopa County Board of Supervisors

https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/docs/press-releases/2021/letters/210927_Letter_to_Maricopa_County_re_Litigation_Hol d.pdf

So in the report presented to the Arizona Senate last week, it was reported 85,673 files were deleted. Files that should have been maintained by law for 22 months after the election. So the people identified on security monitors deleting those files have something to worry about.

https://rumble.com/vmzhmz-az-audit-ben-cotton-withheld-devices-and-data..html

MtnBiker
09-30-2021, 03:03 PM
Volunteers on the Maricopa County Audit had an NDA. They are now able to speak about their experience during the audit. Here is a link to a video on some of their experiences. Only about 7 minutes long.

https://rumble.com/vn5215-az-audit-volunteers-reveal-findings-disturbing-elections-irregularities-dis.html