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Abbey Marie
10-05-2021, 12:12 PM
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revelarts
10-06-2021, 09:50 AM
A paper published Sept. 30, in Eurosurveillance showed COVID spread rapidly by a fully vaccinated patient to fully vaccinated staff, patients and family members — despite a 96% vaccination rate and use of full personal protective equipment. Five patients died and nine had severe cases.
A paper (https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822) published Sept. 30 in Eurosurveillance raises questions (https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/so-much-for-vaccine-generated-herd) about the legitimacy of “vaccine-generated herd immunity.”
The study cites a COVID (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender_category/covid) outbreak which spread rapidly among hospital staff at an Israeli Medical Center — despite a 96% vaccination rate, use of N-95 surgical masks by patients and full personal protective equipment worn by providers.
The calculated rate of infection (https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822) among all exposed patients and staff was 10.6% (16/151) for staff and 23.7% (23/97) for patients, in a population with a 96.2% vaccination rate (238 vaccinated/248 exposed individuals).
The paper noted several transmissions likely occurred between two individuals both wearing surgical masks, and in one instance using full PPE, including N-95 mask, face shield, gown and gloves.
Of the 42 cases diagnosed in the outbreak, 38 were fully vaccinated with two doses of Pfizer and BioNTech’s Comirnaty (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/childrens-health-defense-sues-fda-pfizer-comirnaty-covid-vaccine/)vaccine, one had received only one vaccination and three were unvaccinated.
Of the infected, 23 were patients and 19 were staff members. The staff all recovered quickly. However, eight vaccinated patients became severely ill, six became critically ill and five of the critically ill died. The two unvaccinated patients tracked had mild COVID cases.
The authors concluded:
“This communication … challenges the assumption that high universal vaccination rates will lead to herd immunity (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/herd-immunity-myth-covid-vaccines-kids-deceptive-dangerous/)and prevent COVID-19 outbreaks … In the outbreak described here, 96.2% of the exposed population was vaccinated. Infection advanced rapidly (many cases became symptomatic within 2 days of exposure), and viral load was high.” ....


https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822

https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-outbreak-sparked-fully-vaccinated-patient-challenges-vaccine-induced-herd-immunity-theory/5757835

fj1200
10-06-2021, 10:11 AM
I, have personally, not died from my COVID vaccine. Nor anyone in my household; currently 4 eligible.

revelarts
10-06-2021, 10:15 AM
I, have personally, not died from my LACK of a COVID vaccine. Nor anyone in my household; currently 3 eligible.

fj1200
10-06-2021, 10:19 AM
The staff all recovered quickly. However, eight vaccinated patients became severely ill, six became critically ill and five of the critically ill died. The two unvaccinated patients tracked had mild COVID cases.

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822

Staff, likely younger and in good health and all recovered quickly. Patients, in a hospital for a reason I'm guessing. Died? All older than 70. Severe case? All above 50, most above 70. The question is the likely outcome if no one had been vaccinated. Most likely a worse outcome overall.

JakeStarkey
10-06-2021, 10:25 AM
Of our family group of more than 35 (all except two are vaxxed), no one has been seriously ill. That goes in age from 6 to 87.

That's anecdotal and I am glad that this is so.