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jimnyc
10-12-2021, 02:23 PM
I always get aggravated at the folks arguing with police when getting pulled over. The soverign nation ones are the best. But overall, arguing your case (other than initial questions) on the side of the road, is a waste of time. The time to get out of your ticket is in court.

Not a whole lot different here. I can fully understand refusing to wear the mask, but do the fighting in court. For the most part, forcing the issue at school only got her arrested. Sure, she can now possibly fight this in court and have the charges dropped but also a good chance of it sticking with a fine, and then a record. The better option would have been to fight it in court to begin with.

And yeah, a I get the whole civil disobedience thing, but she can take this to court over the mask - without giving herself a record.

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Wyoming teenager arrested after refusing to wear mask on school grounds, family says

LARAMIE, Wyo. - A 16-year-old girl in Wyoming was arrested Thursday at her school after she refused to wear a mask on school grounds, she and her father said.

Grace Smith, a junior at Laramie High School, told state Sen. Anthony Bouchard, R-Cheyenne, in an interview posted online, that police placed her in handcuffs for trespassing after she was suspended for not following the school’s mask mandate and refused to leave school grounds.

Smith recorded video of herself getting handcuffed, which her father, Andy Smith, shared on social media. The video shows the interactions between Smith and police officers were polite.

"When asked if they’re arresting her for [not wearing] her mask, they’ll say, ‘No, we're arresting her for her violation of failure to comply in accordance with their trespassing ordinance,'" Andy Smith told Bouchard.

Smith said that she’s faced three separate two-day suspensions over refusing to mask up and received $1,000 in trespassing fines for refusing to leave the campus, saying that she had a right to be on school grounds to continue her education.

She described herself as a "straight-A student" who has "never broken the law."

"I would never choose to do anything wrong and I never saw myself sitting in the back of a cop car, handcuffed," Smith said.

Smith’s arrest also led to a "brief lockdown" to "prevent further interruptions to academic learning," the school said in a statement obtained by the Laramie Boomerang.

When the paper asked school officials for a number on how many students were suspended over refusing to mask up, a district spokesman cited the school’s statement, saying "the school district does not comment on student discipline matters."

The school district approved the mask mandate on Sept. 8, making it mandatory for most students to wear masks in all buildings and on buses, the paper reported. The mandate was set to expire on Oct. 15, but officials were scheduled to meet on Wednesday to revisit the plan.

Rest - https://www.fox5ny.com/news/wyoming-teenager-arrested-after-refusing-to-wear-mask-on-school-grounds-family-says

Gunny
10-12-2021, 02:28 PM
Completely agree. Especially now that most police are on video, they aren't cutting you any breaks on candid camera. Take your ticket and go. The city/county/state needs its money. You can pay the ticket or pay a lawyer. The deck is stacked. You can't accomplish anything other than added violations by arguing with a cop.

Black Diamond
10-12-2021, 02:44 PM
Kid could do home school. I think there are curricula you can get for your kids via satellite but I know what they cost.

Gunny
10-12-2021, 02:56 PM
Kid could do home school. I think there are curricula you can get for your kids via satellite but I know what they cost.Most schools have offered some form of online education since this pandemic began. I don't see that as being much of an obstacle.

My question is whose point is she trying to make? Hers or her parents'? If the latter, shame on them. If it's her decision, it's not hers to make. You follow school rules. I don't recall there ever being an option on the matter.

Black Diamond
10-12-2021, 02:58 PM
Most schools have offered some form of online education since this pandemic began. I don't see that as being much of an obstacle.

My question is whose point is she trying to make? Hers or her parents'? If the latter, shame on them. If it's her decision, it's not hers to make. You follow school rules. I don't recall there ever being an option on the matter.
There never was. I will be pissed if it's her parents instructing her to do this. Using your kids as pawns ain't right. Do your own protesting.

Gunny
10-12-2021, 05:41 PM
There never was. I will be pissed if it's her parents instructing her to do this. Using your kids as pawns ain't right. Do your own protesting.What else could it be? A straight A junior in HS is going to suddenly go off the rails? Wait. Let me rephrase that :laugh: While some straight A HS juniors have been known to go off the rails, I'm not seeing that here. There's no "my Rights" speech from the kid.

Her father is mentioned 3 times in the article.

Black Diamond
10-12-2021, 05:49 PM
what else could it be? A straight a junior in hs is going to suddenly go off the rails? Wait. Let me rephrase that :laugh: While some straight a hs juniors have been known to go off the rails, i'm not seeing that here. There's no "my rights" speech from the kid.

Her father is mentioned 3 times in the article.
smh.