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Gunny
12-13-2021, 12:04 PM
One of the conservative Justices mentioned this as a possible consequence of the Texas abortion law back when it was on the shadow docket and the Supreme Court did nothing. No one can say they didn't see this can of worms coming. People who take action without considering all possible/imaginable (in the case of the left "devious misuse") consequences of their actions BEFORE they act annoy the shit out of me :rolleyes:

Speaking of "devious misuse", Newsome is an idiot and shouldn't be allowed so much authority as a school crossing guard. He is the antithesis of intelligent. Make no mistake a BIG PART of our supply backlog is due to Newsome, his corrupt flunky government and the corrupt labor unions on the docks. I'd really like to know where his broke ass State thinks it has the money to pay for all its stupid laws. He thinks he's the Biden Admin Jr the way he spends other people's money.




OAN Newsroom
UPDATED 1:51 PM PT – Sunday, December 12, 2021On Friday, the Supreme Court allowed challenges to Texas’ abortion ban to move forward in the lower courts. However, for the time being, the court also left Texas’ Heartbeat Act (https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/87R/billtext/html/HB01515I.htm) in place, which offers a $10,000 bounty for citizens who bring a successful lawsuit against anyone who “aides or abets” an abortion after six weeks.
Newsom contended that if states can shield their laws from review by federal courts, then California would use that authority to ban semi-automatic weapons. He said if Texas can empower people who have abortions then California would create a bill allowing private citizens to sue anyone who makes or sells assault weapons.
As usual, Newsom gave no definition of an “assault weapon,” but said the legislation would create a so-called “right of action” allowing private citizens to seek injunctive relief and statutory damages of at least $10,000 per violation plus attorney fees, against anyone who manufactures, distributes or sells an assault weapon, ghost gun kit or parts.

Newsom’s statement comes on the heels of Chief Justice John Robert’s opinion on the Texas law. Joining the courts three liberal judges on Friday, Robert’s dissented saying that the Supreme Court risks losing its own authority if it allows states to circumvent the court.
He said the quote, “clear purpose and actual effect” of the Texas law was to nullify the court’s previous rulings on abortion and undermine the Supreme Court’s fundamental role. However, its constitutionally relegating the rights back to the states to determine.
More than two dozen states are reportedly prepared to ban abortion if the Supreme Court case focusing on Mississippi’s ban on abortions after 15-weeks undermines Roe v. Wade, and Newsom has made it clear that he’s more than willing to make California a sanctuary for those seeking. This past week, the California Future of Abortion Council announced a plan with 45 recommendations for the state to consider if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade.
The plan includes funding for lodging and travel for people from other states seeking abortion. The head of the council, Newsom himself, said details of the plan would be revealed in his budget proposal in January.
In the meantime, California is likely to see a surge in out-of-state patients seeking the procedure. CEO of Planned Parenthood California, Gilda Gonzales, estimated the number of people traveling to the state would rise nearly 3,000 percent.
https://www.oann.com/gov-newsom-uses-texas-abortion-ban-as-model-for-gun-control/

NightTrain
12-13-2021, 12:14 PM
I really don't see how this relates to each other.

Guns are enshrined in the Constitution.

Abortion is not.

Newsom and his Aunt Nancy are willfully ignorant of that distinction. SCOTUS won't be.

jimnyc
12-13-2021, 12:19 PM
I don't this works. It's comparing apples and oranges, and hopefully the courts will see right through this.

But this is California & anything goes.

fj1200
12-14-2021, 12:55 PM
If I'm not mistaken then gun related lawsuits are limited by Federal legislation.


The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a United States law which protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. However, both manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible in much the same manner that any U.S.-based manufacturer of consumer products is held responsible. They may also be held liable for negligent entrustment when they have reason to know a gun is intended for use in a crime.The PLCAA is codified at 15 U.S.C. §§ 7901-7903 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/7901)15 U.S.C. §§ 7901-790315 U.S.C. §§ 7901-7903 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/7903). …

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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/s397/text

Gunny
12-14-2021, 05:00 PM
I don't need to point out again what I think about abortion.

On the other hand, I hate this law. It's a bad law. It's playing semantics and using loopholes to skirt a Supreme Court ruling the way the Dems do. Given the current makeup of the Court it seems to me getting Roe v Wade back in front of it would be the proper course of action.