Restoring truth back to the people

[truthmatters]

http://librarian.lishost.org/?p=685

The record on this is very clear.

Bush wants total secrecy.


Join Historians & Humanists to Support the Presidential Records Act of 2007. No. 3.12.2007. 50.
“History is not partisan,”

said Waxman, a sponsor of the bill and chair of the House’s Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, a subcommittee of which held the hearing on presidential records Thursday.

“Historians and scholars need access to our nation’s history as it happened, not as a former president wished that it happened.”

The House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform last week approved a bill — the Presidential Records Act of 2007 — that would essentially overturn Bush’s executive order. The full House could vote on the measure as early as this week.While anger over the issue has been widespread among scholars of the presidency since it was issued, the debate over the proposed Bush presidential library at Southern Methodist University has focused more public attention on presidential libraries and access to them.

Groups of humanities advocates and historians are encouraging members to contact lawmakers about backing the legislation going to the House.

[avatar4321]

You dont have any credibility claiming truth. You wouldnt know the truth it was bolded in front of you.

[truthmatters]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13233

The Bush order was overturned by this legislation which Bush threatened to veto. The Dem congress got enough votes to make it veto proof.

The Rs would not allow similar legislation to get anywhere while they held the majority.



In 2002, shortly after Order 13233 went into effect, a bipartisan group of U.S. House of Representatives members, led by Stephen Horn (R-CA), Dan Burton (R-IN), Jan Schakowsky (D-IL), and Henry Waxman (D-CA) wrote and debated a bill aimed at repealing Order 13233, thereby restoring Order 12667 to full force and effect. The bill passed the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which was chaired by Burton at the time, but never saw floor action.

On March 1, 2007, a subcommittee of the Committee on Government Reform held a hearing on bill H.R. 1255, "The Presidential Records Act Amendments of 2007". At the hearing, several leading historians argued that Order 13233 has severely curtailed public access to presidential records and added to delays in obtaining materials from presidential libraries. The bill was reported favorably by the full committee, and on March 14, 2007, the House passed the bill in an overwhelmingly bipartisan vote of 333-93. The bill also passed on June 13, 2007 in a Senate committee and will likely be brought up for floor consideration later in 2007. President Bush has threatened to veto the bill, but the House vote marked a veto-proof majority and the Senate Committee passage was unanimous.




http://tinyurl.com/2n9hgu
The lawsuit






Ask yourself why Bush did not want Reagans, Bush (his Dad) and Clintons records released??????

[Sir Evil]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_13233


Psst, research what wikpedia is, and how it works before using its source. :poke:

[truthmatters]

I know what Wiki is and wiki has links to all their info. This is why the right works so hard to discredit it and is caught falsely editing it.

You see these laws exsisted and the links are in wiki to prove it.

[Sir Evil]

I know what Wiki is and wiki has links to all their info. This is why the right works so hard to discredit it and is caught falsely editing it.

You see these laws exsisted and the links are in wiki to prove it.

:laugh2:

Wiki is a free source that anyone can submit articles to. If you want me to shit in a box, and stamp guarantee on it I will..

[Nukeman]

:laugh2:

Wiki is a free source that anyone can submit articles to. If you want me to shit in a box, and stamp guarantee on it I will..

Hey there Tommy Boy you might be making to much sense for Truth!!!

[truthmatters]

It Has Links So You Can Check The Info

[Sir Evil]

Hey there Tommy Boy you might be making to much sense for Truth!!!

:laugh2: :laugh2:

[truthmatters]

http://tinyurl.com/2mu8x3



Here is the EO by Bush and this is from the congressional record.


http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1193

this is about the Waxman bill and also in the congressional record.

These are proven facts you can only deny if you have no integrity

[truthmatters]

http://tinyurl.com/ype2sr


Heres an article from today where a judge deemed it illegal to hold these records indefinately.


Judge limits ex-presidents' control of public recordsStory Highlights
Judge invalidates part of President Bush's 2001 executive order

Order had "effectively eliminated" discretion of National Archives, judge says




WASHINGTON (AP) -- Presidents don't have indefinite veto power over which records are made public after they've left office, a federal judge has ruled.


The National Archives, by law, has the final say over the release of presidential records.

In a narrowly crafted ruling, U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly invalidated part of President Bush's 2001 executive order, which allowed former presidents and vice presidents to review executive records before they are released under the Freedom of Information Act.

By law, the National Archives has the final say over the release of presidential records and Kollar-Kotelly ruled that Bush's executive order "effectively eliminates" that discretion.

It allows former presidents to delay the release of records "presumably indefinitely," she said.

The judge on Monday ordered the National Archives not to withhold any more documents based on that section of the executive order.










Just cracks me up how when facts appear you guys smear or disappear.