About All Those Dead Generals

[Kathianne]

More than in all WWII, in about a month! An article I posted yesterday described hoe EU provided for quick ability to keep Ukrainian communications open. One would think the aggressor would have checked that box. The past two days reports are growing that Ukraine forces have encircled Russian troops around Kiev. The Ukraine 's next problem may be care for POWs.

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/03/23/analysis-why-so-many-russian-generals-are-getting-killed-on-the-front-lines-n457289

[Gunny]

More than in all WWII, in about a month! An article I posted yesterday described hoe EU provided for quick ability to keep Ukrainian communications open. One would think the aggressor would have checked that box. The past two days reports are growing that Ukraine forces have encircled Russian troops around Kiev. The Ukraine 's next problem may be care for POWs.

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/03/23/analysis-why-so-many-russian-generals-are-getting-killed-on-the-front-lines-n457289

Prisoners? Don't forget, Ukranians are Eastern European too and are pissed off. I hope they don't do anything stupid to offend Western sensibilities.

It's a real problem. Disarm them and send them home and Putin will put them right back in the line. Then you have to support them on already limited and strained supplies.

March them into Mariupol.

[Gunny]

Ummm ..... putting untrained conscripts into battle lines? That explains dead generals and generally going nowhere and getting nothing much more than pounding things to rubble with artillery. That works pretty much in facing lines of battle formations and even then you usually need enough trained men to shoot the ones that break line and run.

I'd rather go in undermanned with trained soldiers.

[Kathianne]

Geez:

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/03/23/in-intercepted-communication-russian-soldier-describes-frostbite-lack-of-supplies-its-all-fubar-in-a-nutshell-n457408

[Gunny]

Geez:

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2022/03/23/in-intercepted-communication-russian-soldier-describes-frostbite-lack-of-supplies-its-all-fubar-in-a-nutshell-n457408I wouldn't make plans on it.

If true, there is no morale in the Russian Army.

If it's subterfuge, good way to get some to let down their defenses. They are highly motivated, well-trained, well-equipped, experienced line troops until they are dead or disarmed.

[Kathianne]

I wouldn't make plans on it.

If true, there is no morale in the Russian Army.

If it's subterfuge, good way to get some to let down their defenses. They are highly motivated, well-trained, well-equipped, experienced line troops until they are dead or disarmed.

The fighting Ukrainians should heed your words. Me? I'm rooting for 3 days.

[Kathianne]

Gunny

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/03/23/nbc-the-kyiv-counteroffensive-has-begun-and-showing-success-n457461

[Gunny]

@Gunny (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=30)

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/03/23/nbc-the-kyiv-counteroffensive-has-begun-and-showing-success-n457461I would approach this with caution. Kyiv would indeed be a symbolic victory for Russia.

Taking Mariupol would be a strategic victory as it links to Crimea to Donetsk and Donbas, cutting off the Sea of Azov, IIRC. If Kyiv is a feint, and the real target is Mariupol; which, Russia seems to be more interested in pounding to dust and evacuating its people East, I can see someone like Putin sacrificing his northern troops.

Remember those troops on amphib ships Japan sighted? They would just about seal Mariupol's and Odessa's fates. IF they can get through Turkey into the Black Sea.

Now for some Gunny shit :laugh2:

I would use counterattacking the the Russians outside Kyiv as a feint while sending enough troops to relieve Mariupol. Unfortunately, I have no idea what actual assets Ukraine has. Would REALLY be nice if they had some MiGs:rolleyes:

[Gunny]

I take that back. I would relieve Kherson and if that was successful go after Crimea. Kherson is on the Dnieper River, and a threat to Kyiv from the south. The problem with Mariupol is how close it is to the Russian border. Russian artillery can cover it from inside Russia. Crimea is under Russia's artillery umbrella as well.

Ukraine needs to keep it's access to the Black Sea.

[Kathianne]

Gunny If this is a feint, they are outgoing themselves:

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/23/retired-russian-officials-starting-to-grumble-about-putins-war-planning-n457404

[Gunny]

@Gunny (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=30) If this is a feint, they are outgoing themselves:

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/23/retired-russian-officials-starting-to-grumble-about-putins-war-planning-n457404Wow. I'm cracking up. They lost an EW system? Then comment that Russia hasn't used EW much not wanting the system to fall into Ukrainian hands. I quote: "Oops" :laugh2:

It's hard for me to grasp the level of incompetence from what once was one of the World's most feared armies. My brain's not wired to accept that. They're getting their asses kicked by farmers :laugh:

I'm still not underrating them. All they need is to stumble onto the right leader. Lincoln went through 5 generals before landing on Grant.

[Kathianne]

Hits keep coming:

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/23/the-russian-who-predicted-a-debacle-in-ukraine-n457491

[Kathianne]

One more, last line is great:

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/23/reports-putins-defense-minister-has-disappeared-while-his-chief-banker-has-tried-to-resign-n457531

[NightTrain]

I'd wager a great deal of money that the captured Krasuka EW system is already in Poland being loaded on a bird bound for the States.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44879/ukraine-just-captured-part-of-one-of-russias-most-capable-electronic-warfare-systems

What a colossal cluster this has been. I wouldn't be surprised to see Putin end up dead very soon. He's pretty paranoid about that and the purges are well underway.

[Kathianne]

I'd wager a great deal of money that the captured Krasuka EW system is already in Poland being loaded on a bird bound for the States.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44879/ukraine-just-captured-part-of-one-of-russias-most-capable-electronic-warfare-systems

What a colossal cluster this has been. I wouldn't be surprised to see Putin end up dead very soon. He's pretty paranoid about that and the purges are well underway.

My last post was to that point, Johnson confirms device is on way to US.

[Gunny]

Can't do much but shake my head at this. I'm too highly-trained, usually half-wound up, and take too much pride in professionalism to comprehend such a freakin' Mickey Mouse operation. When I joined the Marine Corps in 79, during the post-Vietnam, Jimmy Carter military days, where half the people were either drunk or stoned, we STILL weren't as jacked up as Putin's joke of a military.

It's really hard to correlate the level of training we did to face this feared, professional tragic comedy act. Having been a troop, I feel sorry for these Russian troops from that point of view. Can also relate given our current CinC :rolleyes: There isn't a lot worse to a military than poor leadership.

Putin is like the Little Corporal (Hitler) giving orders all over again. A former East German cop that thinks power makes him a military expert :rolleyes: He's sending troops out to get slaughtered because they aren't trained and don't what they are doing, and Putin doesn't know what he's doing. Apparently those closest to him are abandoning ship.

The boob-tube "experts" keep saying Putin needs to be give an avenue of escape where he can save face. People need to get used to the reality that there is no painless way out, and it's probably going to take WWIII to slap all these wannabe rulers of the World back into their holes. Let's be real: we're already in WWIII.

We, including that dumber than Putin CinC we have need to accept it and get on with it.

[NightTrain]

Supposedly Russian doctrine calls for the use of a battlefield nuke to scare NATO into giving Russia what they want.

But if that fallout rains down on a bordering NATO member, that would easily trigger Article 5. Plus, I understand that China would most likely get some fallout too, with prevailing winds. They probably wouldn't be fond of that.

I don't know where Putin's off ramp is here. He's screwed. He can't call the whole thing off. He can't win un Ukraine. He singlehandedly transformed NATO into a very well funded and desired alliance for every nation in Europe, with more power now than it ever has had.

Even if he somehow managed to take Kyiv, decapitated the government and installed a puppet regime, the locals will have them eliminated within hours.

There's tens of thousands of Javelins and Stingers already in country, with tens of thousands more enroute. This fact alone makes occupation impossible. It'll be the most well armed insurgency in history.

Since he can't take it, let alone hold it, what's the endgame? He's in a bad spot, and it's getting worse daily.

Not only is his military getting mauled wholesale, Russia's economy is doomed.

Short of a bullet from one of his guys, I don't see any way out of this. Kinda painted himself into a corner on this, and the feared Russian Bear turned out to be a paper tiger, gutted from within by massive corruption.

I believe that we're about to witness the 2nd great collapse of Russia in 30 years.

[Gunny]

Supposedly Russian doctrine calls for the use of a battlefield nuke to scare NATO into giving Russia what they want.

But if that fallout rains down on a bordering NATO member, that would easily trigger Article 5. Plus, I understand that China would most likely get some fallout too, with prevailing winds. They probably wouldn't be fond of that.

I don't know where Putin's off ramp is here. He's screwed. He can't call the whole thing off. He can't win un Ukraine. He singlehandedly transformed NATO into a very well funded and desired alliance for every nation in Europe, with more power now than it ever has had.

Even if he somehow managed to take Kyiv, decapitated the government and installed a puppet regime, the locals will have them eliminated within hours.

There's tens of thousands of Javelins and Stingers already in country, with tens of thousands more enroute. This fact alone makes occupation impossible. It'll be the most well armed insurgency in history.

Since he can't take it, let alone hold it, what's the endgame? He's in a bad spot, and it's getting worse daily.

Not only is his military getting mauled wholesale, Russia's economy is doomed.

Short of a bullet from one of his guys, I don't see any way out of this. Kinda painted himself into a corner on this, and the feared Russian Bear turned out to be a paper tiger, gutted from within by massive corruption.

I believe that we're about to witness the 2nd great collapse of Russia in 30 years.Tactical nukes are designed to leave minimal fallout. They aren't like strategic nukes with the mile-high mushroom cloud. Tac's will still leave a radioactive signature, and it may very well bleed radioactivity into NATO countries.

The issue is escalation beyond that. Next up is strategic nukes. If it comes to that, I hope at least one goes "cowboy" and lands in N Korea.

I suspect besides everything else that has gone "Biden" on Putin, he planned on NATO attacking. Given the misinformation campaign of straight-up lies he's spinning, he could probably rally Russians around the patriotic duty of defending Mother Russia. I don't believe that is intention on Brandon's part, just a lucky break as a result of his noncommittal cowardice.

Putin's the key. He has to go. I'd be thinking about parlaying putting a round in his head into my new career as hero and celebrity. Make the talk show rounds in the US and Europe. Rights to the made for TV docudrama. ETC :)

[NightTrain]

Right, they have less yield than the Hiroshima nuke... but there would almost certainly be some in NATO bordering nations.

With the obvious state of disrepair of conventional military equipment, I wonder how many of their nukes are even capable of leaving their silos and launchers. I suspect that Putin's had a few quiet moments pondering that burning question. Still, a few of the big boys are bound to perform as advertised and those are mighty hard to Intercept. As far as I know, we're the only nation on earth that has an ICBM shield, and none of us know what our capacity is. 30? 50? It's a sobering thought for us, but Europe is screwed if things go that route.

And I'd hold off on your Russian vacation... I suspect that a Marine getting off a plane with a guitar case would raise a few bushy eyebrows. Nyet.

[NightTrain]

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[Kathianne]

Are things really heating up in the South? Might know more tomorrow:


https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/24/ukrainian-forces-mobilizing-to-push-the-russians-out-of-kherson-n457861

[Kathianne]

More generals:

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/25/report-russian-general-who-told-troops-the-war-would-be-over-quickly-killed-in-ukraine-n457987

[NightTrain]

After this party is over, I'm looking forward to the stories of our Spec Ops guys running around over there right now training the Ukrainians on ambushes and sniper ops... this really is a phenomenal record with Generals getting picked off.

I've got a pretty good hunch that the senior officer hunting isn't just targets of opportunity - this is a coordinated hunt.

The stories of various former snipers & Ex-SOF guys publicly announcing to the press that they're heading over as volunteers is a cover for our guys there right now.

Just my 0.02

[Kathianne]

Are things really heating up in the South? Might know more tomorrow:


https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/24/ukrainian-forces-mobilizing-to-push-the-russians-out-of-kherson-n457861

Hmmmm

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/25/hoo-boy-ukrainians-starting-to-push-russia-out-of-occupied-kherson-n458053

[Gunny]

Hmmmm

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/03/25/hoo-boy-ukrainians-starting-to-push-russia-out-of-occupied-kherson-n458053SOmething i'm getting really tired of is at every chance, the US has to interject "if not for us ...". STFU already :rolleyes:

Despite the West's and the US's slow crawl into support, and deciding themselves what they think the Ukranians need, the people of Ukraine and its military is kicking a World Power's ass and make them bleed for every inch of ground. Sure, the West's help is help. Personally, I always think if you have to embellish and crow about your contribution, you've pretty much negated any respect/credit you might otherwise deserve for it.

Imagine Ukraine with complete air superiority :rolleyes:

Mention this before as well, and it's reared its ugly head again with all these handshaking ceremonies yesterday: The West (and the furth West, the more for it) pushing for compromise by Z just to stop the fighting. Z has so far resisted.

It IS just like Western powers to hold back support if they don't get to dictate terms.

[Kathianne]

7 generals dead so far. As Gunny said above, the West needs to shut up a bit and listen.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/west-strategy-against-russia-ukraine-war/629387/