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red states rule
10-04-2007, 05:46 AM
Well folks, here is another attempt by the left to open the flood gates and let the illegals flow in

You would think they (and some Republicans) would have learned their lesson the voters do not support open borders and amnesty


Hillary touts bill to unite illegals' kin
By Christina Bellantoni

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said yesterday as president she would push an immigration bill with a path to legalization that unites families.

"We've got to deal with immigration to be sure that we're going to get back to doing what is right and smart in America," she told members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute.

"Yes, we need to strengthen borders, everyone agrees with that," the New York Democrat said. "We have to, though, remain faithful to our condition as a beacon for people around the world seeking a better life."

Three other Democratic presidential hopefuls attended the forum: Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio and former Sen. Mike Gravel of Alaska. They were given 15 minutes to address six questions. Mrs. Clinton, who gave a version of her stump speech touching on the themes of the questions instead of answering them directly, spent 63 seconds on immigration.

Mrs. Clinton was interrupted by applause during this line: "I believe we have to, as part of comprehensive immigration reform, create a path to earned legalization and I will continue to stand for that and advocate for that."

She touted her efforts to make sure families weren't disrupted by the Senate's immigration bill. "Everybody talks about family values ... let's start valuing families and that means immigrant families as well as every other family," she said.

Mrs. Clinton did not commit to passing immigration reform in her first term, a priority for the group, which works to educate new Hispanic leaders. She also did not directly answer all of the questions posed at the start of the forum, including how she would address anti-immigrant sentiment.

She did say she would "cut the Latino dropout rate in half," spend $10 billion on universal pre-kindergarten and pass the Dream Act to give legal status to illegal aliens who go to college or join the military.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071004/NATION/110040043/1001

avatar4321
10-04-2007, 02:44 PM
I actually thing we should unite those families together again...

We should unite them back in Mexico.

red states rule
10-04-2007, 02:54 PM
I actually thing we should unite those families together again...

We should unite them back in Mexico.

My thoughts exactly

What is next from the Red Queen - unite families on convicted criminals by letting them out of jail?

actsnoblemartin
10-04-2007, 09:11 PM
I would throw her out of office and charge her with treason for this.

This is not what america was founded on.

Borders, we dont need no stinking borders.

hillary campagin commerical.

Hey criminal illegal,

do you miss your family

well now your family can live here illegally too

just sign up

free money

free housing

free social security

were having an blowout sale

and EVERYTHING MUST GO!


Well folks, here is another attempt by the left to open the flood gates and let the illegals flow in

You would think they (and some Republicans) would have learned their lesson the voters do not support open borders and amnesty


Hillary touts bill to unite illegals' kin
By Christina Bellantoni

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton said yesterday as president she would push an immigration bill with a path to legalization that unites families.

"We've got to deal with immigration to be sure that we're going to get back to doing what is right and smart in America," she told members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute.

"Yes, we need to strengthen borders, everyone agrees with that," the New York Democrat said. "We have to, though, remain faithful to our condition as a beacon for people around the world seeking a better life."

Three other Democratic presidential hopefuls attended the forum: Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio and former Sen. Mike Gravel of Alaska. They were given 15 minutes to address six questions. Mrs. Clinton, who gave a version of her stump speech touching on the themes of the questions instead of answering them directly, spent 63 seconds on immigration.

Mrs. Clinton was interrupted by applause during this line: "I believe we have to, as part of comprehensive immigration reform, create a path to earned legalization and I will continue to stand for that and advocate for that."

She touted her efforts to make sure families weren't disrupted by the Senate's immigration bill. "Everybody talks about family values ... let's start valuing families and that means immigrant families as well as every other family," she said.

Mrs. Clinton did not commit to passing immigration reform in her first term, a priority for the group, which works to educate new Hispanic leaders. She also did not directly answer all of the questions posed at the start of the forum, including how she would address anti-immigrant sentiment.

She did say she would "cut the Latino dropout rate in half," spend $10 billion on universal pre-kindergarten and pass the Dream Act to give legal status to illegal aliens who go to college or join the military.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071004/NATION/110040043/1001

Gunny
10-05-2007, 04:23 AM
I actually thing we should unite those families together again...

We should unite them back in Mexico.

Couldn't agree more.

red states rule
10-05-2007, 05:22 AM
It seems the libs see the illegals has a new voting block. How soon will it be until the Red Queen says the illegals should be able to vote in US elections?

5stringJeff
10-05-2007, 07:25 AM
I actually thing we should unite those families together again...

We should unite them back in Mexico.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

red states rule
10-05-2007, 09:19 PM
The liberal media is crying again over immigration laws being enforced


ABC Frets: Local Governments Going 'Too Far' Against Illegals?
By Scott Whitlock | October 5, 2007 - 15:53 ET
On Friday's "Good Morning America," reporter Claire Shipman fretted over the fact that local governments are aggressively fighting illegal immigration. An ABC graphic worried, "Crackdown on Illegal Immigrants: Have Communities Gone Too Far?" Discussing the efforts by a Texas town to stop the influx of illegals, Shipman claimed, "...Neighbors suddenly find they can't help themselves. The immigration debate exploding without the niceties." She also lamented the tone of the debate, saying that since the defeat of the Senate immigration bill, "...What had once been a lofty political debate has now become a gritty, explosive reality."

At no point did it occur to ABC to wonder if illegals had "gone too far" in breaking American laws. Rather, Shipman highlighted sympathetic stories of terrified immigrants. She asserted that in the small town of Irving, Texas, "Latino parents have grown so nervous, they're keeping their kids out of schools." The GMA reporter also talked to an anonymous illegal immigrant in Virginia who recounted the ordeal of having a child who "comes home and asked me, 'Why do they hate us?'"


AdvertisementAdditionally, GMA alerted viewers to a special edition of "Good Morning America" that will air on Monday, October 8. Co-host Diane Sawyer will be in Mexico to do extensive reporting on that country and illegal immigration in general. She will be interviewing Mexican President Felipe Calderon and promised to grill him with tough questions about immigration and controlling the borders. However, considering that this is the same reporter who asked Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad about what songs he has on his iPod, viewers could be forgiven for having some skepticism.

A transcript of the October 5 segment, which aired at 7:14am, follows:

ABC Graphic: "Crackdown on Illegal Immigrants: Have Communities Gone Too Far?"

Chris Cuomo: "Let's go now to the crackdown on illegal immigration. All over America this morning, a debate is raging about the best way to address this crisis with millions of people calling on the federal government to get tough on illegal immigrants. But how they are getting tough is raising questions as well. GMA senior national correspondent Claire Shipman joins us live now from Washington. Good morning, Claire."

Claire Shipman: "Good morning, Chris. Here's what's happening, why you're seeing so many dramatic headlines. When immigration reform efforts failed, federal law enforcement agencies decided they would start enforcing the laws on the books. Local government, local law enforcement, they've been coming up with their own solutions. And so what had once been a lofty political debate has now become a gritty, explosive reality. Irving, Texas--"

Unidentified man: "Obey the laws of this country!"

Shipman: "--where neighbors suddenly find they can't help themselves. The immigration debate exploding without the niceties."

Doris Shields (Texas resident): "That's a bunch of bull over there that we even allow them to march on our land when they're here illegally!"

Dan Stein (President, Federation for American Immigration Reform): "It's political dynamite. People are saying we've had enough. We can't take it anymore and if the federal government doesn't get serious about it, we're just going to do the job ourselves."

Shipman: "But lately, the federal government has been trying to prove it can get serious. In California, a staggering immigration sweep. 1,300 illegal immigrants arrested. In Nevada, crackdowns at McDonald's restaurants. In New York, the aftermath of a dead-of-night raid that took this woman's husband. 'Get used to it,' says the Homeland Security boss. He thinks immigration reform might be better but--"

Michael Chertoff (Secretary of Homeland Security): "I think we have an obligation to use the tools that we do have at least to achieve what the law currently requires."

Shipman: "And in Irving, like many places around the country, the locals aren't waiting for the feds. Police are turning over anyone they arrest who turns out to be an illegal immigrant. Latino parents have grown so nervous, they're keeping their kids out of schools."

Crystal Chacon (Texas student): "Oh, we're just scared of going out, just because we look Hispanic, they're pulling us over."

Shipman: "Indeed, this man is so frightened about being rounded up in Virginia, where local governments are also threatening action, he'd only talk to us in shadow. [Man speaking in Spanish. Shipman gives English translation.] 'What breaks my heart,' he says 'is when my six-year-old daughter comes home and asked me, 'Why do they hate us?' Now, that gentleman's daughter is an American citizen. They were born here. He collects trash for a living. His Virginia employer doesn't ask any questions. But he says he's never been so frightened in his life. It's a wrenching issue, certainly, for both sides and Diane Sawyer is looking for answers in Mexico City. Diane?"

Diane Sawyer: "Hello, Claire, and good morning, America. We are in Mexico City, Mexico this morning because, as you just heard, the intense pressure is building to do something about illegal immigrants in the United States. And we're going to take you to the source. We're going to show you who is going across this border and how they're getting there. I'm also going to be talking to the president of this country, President Calderon, to talk to him about, is he going to crack down or in fact, is it to his advantage to leave the border open? We're also going to try and tackle this question of English in the United States. Does it change the country if English is no longer the only commonly used language? And I'll be showing you around a Mexico you have never seen before. It is an amazing place. We have things to show you that will make your mouth drop. And we're going to introduce you to the richest man on the planet. No, it is not Bill Gates. He lives here. And you will not believe how he lives."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2007/10/05/abc-frets-local-governments-going-too-far-against-illegals

Gaffer
10-05-2007, 09:54 PM
Anyone that's not illegal has nothing to be scare of.

It's very simple, if the government won't do their job the people will and the people will replace those that didn't do their job.

red states rule
10-05-2007, 09:56 PM
Anyone that's not illegal has nothing to be scare of.

It's very simple, if the government won't do their job the people will and the people will replace those that didn't do their job.

Every elected politican from BOTH parties will either enforce immigration laws or go on the unemployment line after the election

The US is being invaded and to many of them are cowering to the open borders crowd

April15
10-05-2007, 09:56 PM
Hillary will be our next president! How great it will be.

red states rule
10-05-2007, 09:58 PM
Hillary will be our next president! How great it will be.

Oh, you live in France?

manu1959
10-05-2007, 10:04 PM
Hillary will be our next president! How great it will be.

really....tell me how life will be different.....

April15
10-05-2007, 10:06 PM
Oh, you live in France?
NO! I live in the best state in the Union, California. The leader in innovation and technology. The best weather and leader in production of commerce of all states.
The place that pays more into the feds and gets just about the least back in services.

Gaffer
10-05-2007, 10:06 PM
april can't wait to pay taxes out the wazoo and have the government run his life.

red states rule
10-05-2007, 10:07 PM
really....tell me how life will be different.....

You will be paying more in taxes, waiting longer to get medical treatment, and watching terrorists take over the Middle East, paying much more for energy, and seeing the stock market crash as investors sell stcoks before the higher capital gains tax kicks in


Need more examples?

red states rule
10-05-2007, 10:08 PM
NO! I live in the best state in the Union, California. The leader in innovation and technology. The best weather and leader in production of commerce of all states.
The place that pays more into the feds and gets just about the least back in services.

One thing Hillary has to overcome is this minor detail

It’s worth noting that Clinton’s core opposition is a bit smaller than it was earlier in the year (see last month’s report). It’s also worth noting that 50% of men will definitely vote against her. Thirty-seven percent (37%) of women share that view.

The five other leading contenders for the White House have from 33% to 38% of voters committed to voting against them. Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson is at the low end of that list with core opposition of 33%. Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards is at 38% (see trends for all candidates).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/romney_encounters_more_core_opposition_than_clinto n

April15
10-05-2007, 10:17 PM
One thing Hillary has to overcome is this minor detail

It’s worth noting that Clinton’s core opposition is a bit smaller than it was earlier in the year (see last month’s report). It’s also worth noting that 50% of men will definitely vote against her. Thirty-seven percent (37%) of women share that view.

The five other leading contenders for the White House have from 33% to 38% of voters committed to voting against them. Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson is at the low end of that list with core opposition of 33%. Former North Carolina Senator John Edwards is at 38% (see trends for all candidates).

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/romney_encounters_more_core_opposition_than_clinto n

I must say it is wrong. Hill will be your next pres.

manu1959
10-05-2007, 10:19 PM
Hillary will be our next president! How great it will be.

how great will it be.................

red states rule
10-05-2007, 10:19 PM
I must say it is wrong. Hill will be your next pres.

There are other polls saying the same thing. Is it another vast right wing conspiracy?

Hill has a hell of alot of baggage and will turn out alot of Republican voters to vote against her

stephanie
10-05-2007, 10:22 PM
how great will it be.................

It will be an abolute wonderful socialist Utopia...:dance:

Gaffer
10-05-2007, 10:22 PM
I'm looking forward to President Thompson myself.

red states rule
10-05-2007, 10:24 PM
It will be an abolute wonderful socialist Utopia...:dance:

April can dream on. Hillary will not get the Electoral votes needed to win. The more Hillary opens her blowhole and sprews her liberal aganda, the more voters that will turn against her

manu1959
10-05-2007, 10:25 PM
how great will it be.................

hello........

red states rule
10-05-2007, 10:29 PM
hello........

More like goodby - to Hillary after she makes her concession speech

avatar4321
10-06-2007, 04:01 AM
I must say it is wrong. Hill will be your next pres.

Well I have no doubt the American people will disagree.

red states rule
10-06-2007, 09:00 AM
Well I have no doubt the American people will disagree.

and about 31 states in the Electoral College

Trigg
10-06-2007, 09:05 AM
I must say it is wrong. Hill will be your next pres.

Have you listened to the Republicans running? Mitt Romney is looking very good, I wouldn't count him out.

red states rule
10-06-2007, 09:08 AM
Have you listened to the Republicans running? Mitt Romney is looking very good, I wouldn't count him out.

Some on the left are having buyers remorse over Hillary. This could get good before the primaries start

avatar4321
10-06-2007, 10:38 AM
Have you listened to the Republicans running? Mitt Romney is looking very good, I wouldn't count him out.

He sure is. Heck, I think most of the Republican candidates look good. Each have a weakness of course. But any one of them is better than Mrs. Bill Clinton.

April15
10-06-2007, 12:36 PM
Have you listened to the Republicans running? Mitt Romney is looking very good, I wouldn't count him out.With bush's legacy repubs will have to be twice as good as hillary to beat her. This election is hers to loose.

red states rule
10-06-2007, 04:43 PM
With bush's legacy repubs will have to be twice as good as hillary to beat her. This election is hers to loose.

Libs said the same thing about Kerry

April15
10-06-2007, 05:38 PM
Libs said the same thing about KerryNot that I remember. It was not for him to loose but he sure did. So many stupid people. I bet they wish they could change their vote.

red states rule
10-08-2007, 07:16 AM
Not that I remember. It was not for him to loose but he sure did. So many stupid people. I bet they wish they could change their vote.

Selective memory?

Now that is a great way for the left ot have people who voted Republican to vote Democrat

Call them stupid

Trigg
10-10-2007, 10:23 AM
Not that I remember. It was not for him to loose but he sure did. So many stupid people. I bet they wish they could change their vote.

Stupid??? I hope your refering to the people who voted for him. He and his big mouth of a wife lost him the election.

300 million people in this country and he was the best they could find?? The election should have been easy for the dems to win.

MANY, MANY people can't stand Hillary, including democrates.