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Kathianne
05-03-2022, 01:57 AM
Whoever leaked this is likely going to be in a world of hurt:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473


Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows
"We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.

The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/read-justice-alito-initial-abortion-opinion-overturn-roe-v-wade-pdf-00029504) written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.
The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.
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Kathianne
05-03-2022, 02:14 AM
I agree, the reason I said whomever leaked is looking at a world of hurt. Only reason is to create choas and pressure on the court in the coming months until final decision.

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2022/05/02/breaking-scotus-draft-leaks-shows-5-3-for-overturning-roe-n466541


BREAKING: SCOTUS draft leaks, shows 5-3 for overturning Roe



ED MORRISSEY (https://hotair.com/author/ed-morrissey)
May 02, 2022 9:36 PM ET

If this is on the level … hoo boy. Only one previous time (https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/status/1521296426331947009) in modern history has someone leaked a Supreme Court decision ahead of its release before — and certainly not one this explosive. Politico claims (https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473) it has a draft of a majority opinion in Dobbs written by Justice Samuel Alito that will overturn both Roe and Casey, ending the 50-year construct of abortion as a constitutional right:


The Supreme Court has voted to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision, according to an initial draft majority opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito circulated inside the court and obtained by POLITICO.

The draft opinion is a full-throated, unflinching repudiation of the 1973 decision which guaranteed federal constitutional protections of abortion rights and a subsequent 1992 decision – Planned Parenthood v. Casey – that largely maintained the right. “Roe was egregiously wrong from the start,” Alito writes.

“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” he writes in the document, labeled as the “Opinion of the Court.” “It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives.” …

No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending. The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.


Perhaps that should have informed Politico’s decision to print this draft. The leak is so singular in Supreme Court history that it should have prompted editorial considerations as to the motives for leaking the memo in the first place. It seems pretty clear that the leak would create a bigger opportunity for activists to conduct pressure campaigns on the justices involved.

It’s at the very least a “scumbag move,” as Mark Hemingway tweeted:

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Kathianne
05-03-2022, 02:22 AM
The more I read and think about this, the worse it looks for the country in the sense that the left seems determined to undermine all government institutions. The press, in this case, Politico, are beyond irresponsible:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/leaked-draft-of-supreme-court-opinion-indicates-roe-v-wade-may-be-overturned-11651554510


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The 67-page opinion, marked as a first draft, declared that Roe was “egregiously wrong and deeply damaging,” and that Planned Parenthood v. Casey, a 1992 decision that limited but didn’t eliminate abortion rights, prolonged the court’s error.

“Abortion presents a profound moral question. The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion,” the draft opinion said. “Roe and Casey arrogated that authority. We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.”

The draft, written in February, doesn’t necessarily represent the court’s ultimate decision in the case or even the majority’s current thinking. But it is consistent with the tenor of December’s oral arguments in the case challenging Roe, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, concerning Mississippi’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks (https://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-court-hears-arguments-in-landmark-mississippi-abortion-case-11638354602?mod=article_inline). The draft was labeled the opinion of the court, implying a majority of justices had agreed with it.

The apparent leak represents a nearly unheard of breach of the court’s private, behind-the-scenes deliberations on a blockbuster case the court hasn’t yet publicly issued. It also could threaten longstanding bonds of trust on a court that has already been under ideological and personal strains.

After an initial vote among justices on a case, Supreme Court decisions can undergo considerable evolution in tone and substance as justices circulate draft opinions for weeks and months. Those drafts are circulated between chambers—with justices typically offering feedback, support and criticism in writing—until the court arrives at a final ruling, which is frequently accompanied by concurring and dissenting opinions that weigh in on the court’s holding.

Given those internal processes, it’s possible that there are more recent versions of the decision that look different than the draft Politico published. And on occasions, justices can change their positions during deliberations.

[Since the December arguments in the Mississippi case, many court watchers have been expecting the justices to make significant changes to the legal landscape for abortion, with the only question being whether the court would merely narrow abortion rights or instead overrule constitutional protections entirely.

Mississippi’s 15-week abortion ban would prohibit the procedure far earlier than current Supreme Court precedent allows. Additional states already have been adopting similar bans in anticipation of the court’s decision. Some states have adopted even more stringent restrictions.

The court’s decision has been expected by the end of June or early July.

Gunny
05-03-2022, 07:38 AM
First reaction? Why now? The Republicans are already shooting themselves enough in the foot right before the midterms. Now, a conservative court wants to legitimize the leftwingnut Chicken Little act over abortion that "Republicans want to tear down Roe v Wade. It's like the right has a political suicide pact.

I agree Roe is bad law. That's NOT how the MSM and leftwingnuts are going to sell it to the peeps, nor would it be how I would. I would be pointing the finger "See? This is what happens when Republicans are in charge". AOC will probably die again :rolleyes:

Very bad timing, IMO. The right needs to learn to prioritize its self-righteousness with its running for election.

Kathianne
05-03-2022, 08:14 AM
First reaction? Why now? The Republicans are already shooting themselves enough in the foot right before the midterms. Now, a conservative court wants to legitimize the leftwingnut Chicken Little act over abortion that "Republicans want to tear down Roe v Wade. It's like the right has a political suicide pact.

I agree Roe is bad law. That's NOT how the MSM and leftwingnuts are going to sell it to the peeps, nor would it be how I would. I would be pointing the finger "See? This is what happens when Republicans are in charge". AOC will probably die again :rolleyes:

Very bad timing, IMO. The right needs to learn to prioritize its self-righteousness with its running for election.

Which is exactly why Politico released it yesterday.

Kathianne
05-03-2022, 08:25 AM
I very much agree with the following.

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/05/03/the-roe-protests-outside-the-supreme-court-are-likely-a-preview-of-the-future-n466557

Gunny
05-03-2022, 08:53 AM
I very much agree with the following.

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2022/05/03/the-roe-protests-outside-the-supreme-court-are-likely-a-preview-of-the-future-n466557Good luck on that amicable split. The South tried that before. The people that want to control everything would never allow it. Blue states couldn't survive on their own.

The only one(s) that can change journalism without integrity is We, the People. The majority of We, the People just want more dirt and lies, facts be damned.

Overlooked by the rabid droolers on the pro-choice side is SCOTUS should have never ruled on this issue to begin with. The hype and lies have turned that simple fact into a hydra. People believe they have a Constitutional Right with Federal protection and taxpayer funding that falls under the Tenth, IMO.

Back to my original point, can't wait to see how the Republicans screw this up as far as midterms go. While blame is being laid, I'm pretty sure this decision could have been pushed forward past the midterms by SCOTUS.

Gunny
05-03-2022, 09:15 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-supreme-court-leak-womans-right-choose-fundamental

The Bobblehead's opinion on the matter.

Kathianne
05-03-2022, 09:25 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-supreme-court-leak-womans-right-choose-fundamental

The Bobblehead's opinion on the matter.

I just read it. Not sure how much this, if true, will effect election.

Gunny
05-03-2022, 09:58 AM
I just read it. Not sure how much this, if true, will effect election.Assuming the "leak" is correct, I am looking at a conservative (aka Republican) Supreme Court confirming 60 years of fearmongering from the Dems/left. Those that make money off the institution and those that make money sensationalizing are going to stir the pot as fast and hard as they can.

Not hard to see them making the "this is what happens when Republicans are in charge" argument, using this decision as the exclamation mark.

Reality is it changes nothing as far as availability goes. Funding? Wouldn't tossing Roe V Wade and Casey also remove any excuse Dems have for Federal funding? While not an extremist hardliner on the topic as far as telling others what decisions to make when they don't affect me, I am against abortion and don't think taxpayers should be funding it.

It's their "personal choice" which should come at their personal expense.

Kathianne
05-03-2022, 10:30 AM
Assuming the "leak" is correct, I am looking at a conservative (aka Republican) Supreme Court confirming 60 years of fearmongering from the Dems/left. Those that make money off the institution and those that make money sensationalizing are going to stir the pot as fast and hard as they can.

Not hard to see them making the "this is what happens when Republicans are in charge" argument, using this decision as the exclamation mark.

Reality is it changes nothing as far as availability goes. Funding? Wouldn't tossing Roe V Wade and Casey also remove any excuse Dems have for Federal funding? While not an extremist hardliner on the topic as far as telling others what decisions to make when they don't affect me, I am against abortion and don't think taxpayers should be funding it.

It's their "personal choice" which should come at their personal expense.

I'm tending to economy trumps all. Most people aren't extreme in opinion regarding abortion. As stated by yourself, it will be available.

Mr. P
05-03-2022, 12:28 PM
look........a squirrel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kathianne
05-03-2022, 01:29 PM
Hopefully will be uncovered, whichever the ideology, the leader should be toast:

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2022/05/03/who-leaked-n466651

hjmick
05-03-2022, 02:42 PM
Ushering in the era of Abortion Vacations...

jimnyc
05-03-2022, 03:00 PM
Oh boy, here we go. Is this a great idea? And who leaked of course? How damaging will this be, and in the immediate future, the 2022/2024 election?

Lastly, this immediately became a tool by the left that they are taking advantage of.

Also losing their minds over. :) :)

And yeps, hjmick , the vacations will happen!

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Joe Biden: Constitution Gives Right to ‘Abort a Child’ — ‘Mainstream’ Religions Agree with Roe v. Wade

President Joe Biden further reacted to a leaked draft opinion from the Supreme Court on Tuesday, criticizing the “radical” argument against a constitutional right to abortion.

“The idea that we’re gonna make a judgment that is going to say that no one can make the judgment to choose to abort a child based on a decision by the Supreme Court I think goes way overboard,” Biden said.

The president spoke to reporters about the draft opinion as he left Washington, DC, for a trip to Alabama to visit a Lockheed Martin manufacturing facility.

During his remarks, Biden falsely claimed that all mainstream religions believe the beginning of human life is open to interpretation.

“Look, think what Roe says. Roe says what all basic mainstream religions have historically concluded — that the right — that the existence of a human life and being is a question. Is it at the moment of conception? Is it six months? Is it six weeks?”

The president failed to mention that the Catholic Church, of which he claims to be a member, teaches that life begins at the moment of conception.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/03/joe-biden-constitution-gives-rights-abort-child-mainstream-religions-agree-roe-v-wade/


Amazon to Reimburse U.S. Employees Who Travel for Abortions

Amazon reportedly told its staff this week that it will reimburse up to $4,000 in travel expenses every year for medical treatments, including abortions.

Amazon’s new policy applies if an operation is not available within 100 miles of an employee’s home and virtual care is not possible, according to the company’s message, obtained by Reuters.

The announcement comes as a Supreme Court opinion overruling Roe v. Wade was leaked to the press, in what was a possible attempt to intimidate one or more justices to reverse their vote, or to ignite a left-wing push to pack the Supreme Court before the Democrats lose Congress in November’s midterm elections.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2022/05/03/amazon-to-reimburse-u-s-employees-who-travel-for-abortions/


‘Abomination’: Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi Lose It over Leaked SCOTUS Ruling

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) sounded off after Politico unleashed its bombshell report indicating the Supreme Court had the votes necessary to overturn Roe v. Wade.

In a joint statement, Schumer and Pelosi charged that unaccountable conservative justices have “ripped up” the constitution with an “abomination” of decision that has yet to be made official.

“If the report is accurate, the Supreme Court is poised to inflict the greatest restriction of rights in the past fifty years – not just on women but on all Americans,” the duo said. “The Republican-appointed Justices’ reported votes to overturn Roe v. Wade would go down as an abomination, one of the worst and most damaging decisions in modern history.”

The lawmakers further charged that the conservative justices on the Supreme Court “lied to the U.S. Senate” by not protecting Roe v. Wade and “ripped up” the constitution.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/03/abomination-chuck-schumer-nancy-pelosi-lose-it-over-leaked-scotus-ruling/

jimnyc
05-03-2022, 03:02 PM
Interesting words from Pocahontas.


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Elizabeth Warren Calls for an Uprising over Leaked Roe v. Wade Draft Opinion

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) called for millions to “stand up and make their voices heard” over the leaked draft Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

“An extremist Supreme Court is poised to overturn #RoeVWade and impose its far-right, unpopular views on the entire country. It’s time for the millions who support the Constitution and abortion rights to stand up and make their voices heard. We’re not going back — not ever,” she tweeted.

https://i.imgur.com/RGBPrz5.png

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/03/elizabeth-warren-calls-for-an-uprising-over-leaked-roe-v-wade-draft-opinion/

jimnyc
05-03-2022, 03:04 PM
My heart won't be complete until I see all of the rantings from AOC.

But as important - how much will the left worry about this leak? Will they have a care in the world? Or will they claim it was some sort of right?

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Likely 45 People Could Have Leaked the Bombshell Supreme Court Abortion Decision

Now that Politico has leaked the bombshell document showing the Supreme Court of the United States has the votes to overturn Roe v. Wade, attention has shifted to the mystery judicial insider who likely leaked such an explosive decision.

“No draft decision in the modern history of the court has been disclosed publicly while a case was still pending,” Politico noted in its report. “The unprecedented revelation is bound to intensify the debate over what was already the most controversial case on the docket this term.”

Exactly how the outlet obtained such sensitive material remains to be seen (if such information will ever be known), but based on the current makeup of the Supreme Court and how decisions get handed down, the leak likely came from either one of the nine justices or one of the four clerks working under each of them – 45 people in total.

The unprecedented nature of the event led to serious speculation on social media, as judicial watchers fretted over how this could cause a rift between the nine justices.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/03/likely-45-people-could-have-leaked-the-bombshell-supreme-court-abortion-decision/

jimnyc
05-03-2022, 03:06 PM
This is great! Visit and go read all of the tweets. Great reading! :coffee:

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Hollywood Celebrities Explode over Leaked Decision Previewing Roe v. Wade Overturned: ‘Those Motherf**kers Really Did It’

Hollywood celebrities descended into a planet-sized panic late Monday after a draft Supreme Court opinion overruling Roe v. Wade leaked to Politico.

The would-be decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, No. 19-1392 in the Supreme Court of the United States could “condemn women to die,” according to CBS’ Good Sam star Sophia Bush; it could push America “another big step towards fascism” shrieked director Rob Reiner, or it’s apparently plunged us all “back 50 years” said actress Mia Farrow.

CBS’ Mom star Kristen Johnston, 40 Year Old Virgin and The Bubble director Judd Apaptow, Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane, and Beauty and the Beast star Josh Gad all fired off piping hot takes late Monday ranging from we will “fight like hell” chest pounding to classic this is all Donald John Trump’s fault-style derangement. (Actually, that one’s kinda true!).

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2022/05/02/hollywood-celebrities-explode-over-leaked-decision-previewing-roe-v-wade-overturned-those-motherfkers-really-did-it/

jimnyc
05-03-2022, 03:16 PM
look........a squirrel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not so much the actual decision and what it will lead to - but also when the leak was made. Coincidence?

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The Timing Was Intentional: Roe v Wade Leak Was Left’s Answer to “2000 Mules” Documentary Release Today that Proves 2020 Election Was Stolen

The movie ‘2000 Mules’ is set for its theater release today in over 200 theaters across the country.

In the film, Dinesh D’Souza and True the Vote provide answers and evidence of the stolen 2020 Election in this documentary released on Tuesday at select theaters across the nation.

Rest - https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/05/timing-intentional-roe-v-wade-leak-lefts-answer-2000-mules-documentary-release-today-proves-2020-election-stolen/

icansayit
05-03-2022, 03:43 PM
THE SCOTUS actually RELEASES THEIR DECISION.

I believe it's another lame attempt by the WHINING LEFTY IDIOTS to make other WHINY LEFTY IDIOTS MAD.
Need a hint. LOOK AND LISTEN to all the noise in front of the Supreme Court Bldg. And the RIOTS that are gonna break out...Like POCAHONTAS WARREN and PELOSI.

Abbey Marie
05-03-2022, 06:55 PM
First reaction? Why now? The Republicans are already shooting themselves enough in the foot right before the midterms. Now, a conservative court wants to legitimize the leftwingnut Chicken Little act over abortion that "Republicans want to tear down Roe v Wade. It's like the right has a political suicide pact.

I agree Roe is bad law. That's NOT how the MSM and leftwingnuts are going to sell it to the peeps, nor would it be how I would. I would be pointing the finger "See? This is what happens when Republicans are in charge". AOC will probably die again :rolleyes:

Very bad timing, IMO. The right needs to learn to prioritize its self-righteousness with its running for election.

because, if they chose not to hear the case when it came up, who knows when it will come before them again?

Abbey Marie
05-03-2022, 06:58 PM
Oh boy, here we go. Is this a great idea? And who leaked of course? How damaging will this be, and in the immediate future, the 2022/2024 election?

Lastly, this immediately became a tool by the left that they are taking advantage of.

Also losing their minds over. :) :)

And yeps, @hjmick (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=208) , the vacations will happen!

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Joe Biden: Constitution Gives Right to ‘Abort a Child’ — ‘Mainstream’ Religions Agree with Roe v. Wade

President Joe Biden further reacted to a leaked draft opinion from the Supreme Court on Tuesday, criticizing the “radical” argument against a constitutional right to abortion.

“The idea that we’re gonna make a judgment that is going to say that no one can make the judgment to choose to abort a child based on a decision by the Supreme Court I think goes way overboard,” Biden said.

The president spoke to reporters about the draft opinion as he left Washington, DC, for a trip to Alabama to visit a Lockheed Martin manufacturing facility.

During his remarks, Biden falsely claimed that all mainstream religions believe the beginning of human life is open to interpretation.

“Look, think what Roe says. Roe says what all basic mainstream religions have historically concluded — that the right — that the existence of a human life and being is a question. Is it at the moment of conception? Is it six months? Is it six weeks?”

The president failed to mention that the Catholic Church, of which he claims to be a member, teaches that life begins at the moment of conception.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/03/joe-biden-constitution-gives-rights-abort-child-mainstream-religions-agree-roe-v-wade/


Amazon to Reimburse U.S. Employees Who Travel for Abortions

Amazon reportedly told its staff this week that it will reimburse up to $4,000 in travel expenses every year for medical treatments, including abortions.

Amazon’s new policy applies if an operation is not available within 100 miles of an employee’s home and virtual care is not possible, according to the company’s message, obtained by Reuters.

The announcement comes as a Supreme Court opinion overruling Roe v. Wade was leaked to the press, in what was a possible attempt to intimidate one or more justices to reverse their vote, or to ignite a left-wing push to pack the Supreme Court before the Democrats lose Congress in November’s midterm elections.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2022/05/03/amazon-to-reimburse-u-s-employees-who-travel-for-abortions/


‘Abomination’: Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi Lose It over Leaked SCOTUS Ruling

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) sounded off after Politico unleashed its bombshell report indicating the Supreme Court had the votes necessary to overturn Roe v. Wade.

In a joint statement, Schumer and Pelosi charged that unaccountable conservative justices have “ripped up” the constitution with an “abomination” of decision that has yet to be made official.

“If the report is accurate, the Supreme Court is poised to inflict the greatest restriction of rights in the past fifty years – not just on women but on all Americans,” the duo said. “The Republican-appointed Justices’ reported votes to overturn Roe v. O toWade would go down as an abomination, one of the worst and most damaging decisions in modern history.”

The lawmakers further charged that the conservative justices on the Supreme Court “lied to the U.S. Senate” by not protecting Roe v. Wade and “ripped up” the constitution.

Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/05/03/abomination-chuck-schumer-nancy-pelosi-lose-it-over-leaked-scotus-ruling/

I guess Joe doesn’t think Catholicism is a main stream religion.
Oh, and Amazon can go to you-know-where

fj1200
05-03-2022, 09:07 PM
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Amazon to Reimburse U.S. Employees Who Travel for Abortions



Very interesting that Amazon would choose to coddle employees who exhibit poor decision making skills and lack follow through on actions that impact others. Not very good customer service.