On Fraud In Elections

[Kathianne]

Pretty much how I see it. Truth is, having lived most of my life within the shadow of John Hancock and Sear's Tower, fraud was a given in statewide elections and national. How much difference did it make, rarely changed things. Sure there was JFK/Nixon, but that would be the anomaly, not the norm.

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/11/09/no-it-wasnt-cheating-n509481

[Gunny]

Pretty much how I see it. Truth is, having lived most of my life within the shadow of John Hancock and Sear's Tower, fraud was a given in statewide elections and national. How much difference did it make, rarely changed things. Sure there was JFK/Nixon, but that would be the anomaly, not the norm.

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/11/09/no-it-wasnt-cheating-n509481In other words, Trump and his disciples killed the midterms, as I predicted over a year ago.

This should have been the crushing defeat advertised. Here's another prediction:

Another runoff in GA for the Senate. Trump-backed vs corrupt, stupid slum lord. Will Trump stay out of it? We've already seen this movie :rolleyes:

A damned imbecile won in PA. We have an imbecile President, as a matter of fact.

Because of ONE man.

Fucking people need to get a clue.

[Gunny]

I'm glad Trump didn't back Abbott. I'd have to move back to FL if that idiot O'Rourke had won.

[revelarts]

Pretty much how I see it. Truth is, having lived most of my life within the shadow of John Hancock and Sear's Tower, fraud was a given in statewide elections and national. How much difference did it make, rarely changed things. Sure there was JFK/Nixon, but that would be the anomaly, not the norm.

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2022/11/09/no-it-wasnt-cheating-n509481

that'd be nice,
gone over this before but somehow many still like to think voting is ...generally... on the up & up

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?47313-quot-Calibration-Issue-quot-Found-in-Voting-Machines-in-3-Maryland-Counties/page2&highlight=ballots


http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?47762-JFK-The-Voter-Fraud-President&highlight=ballots

[Gunny]

that'd be nice,
gone over this before but somehow many still like to think voting is ...generally... on the up & up

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?47313-quot-Calibration-Issue-quot-Found-in-Voting-Machines-in-3-Maryland-Counties/page2&highlight=ballots


http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?47762-JFK-The-Voter-Fraud-President&highlight=ballotsVoting anywhere at any time has never been free of fraud. People are involved. There're always those that will cheat.

We could clearly tighten laws up here to get it as honest as possible and there will STILL be (attempted)fraud. Your demand for perfection where there is none is unrealistic.

If you have a better plan than citizens voting I'm all ears. As MY Gunny used to say: "If you're coming into my hooch with a bitch, you better be bringing a proposed solution with it". I left out the expletives for your sensitive, civilian ears :)

[revelarts]

All voters notified by mail &/or phone 45 days pre-election of voting status.
Voting status made public on websites and at city halls.

Paper ballots. -No computers/voting machines.-
Video of everyone entering exiting voting stations.
Local live recorded video Public Counts at each Local voting station.
(After counts Votes sealed and stored locally.)
Numbers certified on site. made public on site. Counts sent to state central location for addition.
Each locals count posted on public board at central state local for all to add for themselves.

No early voting.
No mail in votes.
Except for handicapped and shut ins.
Military stationed or on duty out of area.
Or by special request and certified mail (free)

Polls open for 24hrs the day of.

As you said there's no perfection, but the above would cut a lot, if not most, of the current BS.

[Kathianne]

All voters notified by mail &/or phone 45 days pre-election of voting status.
Voting status made public on websites and at city halls.

Paper ballots. -No computers/voting machines.-
Video of everyone entering exiting voting stations.
Local live recorded video Public Counts at each Local voting station.
(After counts Votes sealed and stored locally.)
Numbers certified on site. made public on site. Counts sent to state central location for addition.
Each locals count posted on public board at central state local for all to add for themselves.

No early voting.
No mail in votes.
Except for handicapped and shut ins.
Military stationed or on duty out of area.
Or by special request and certified mail (free)

Polls open for 24hrs the day of.

As you said there's no perfection, but the above would cut a lot, if not most, of the current BS.

At first I don't see a problem with your ideas. My biggie has always been paper ballots. I sort of frown at 24 hours, simple reason is that I do think that no one should have to jump through hoops, I also don't have a problem with people getting in on 12-15 hour window, but certainly not a deal breaker for me.