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avatar4321
10-08-2007, 09:51 PM
Brits wonder how Hillary without any qualifications is a front runner (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/05/AR2007100501680.html)

I have to agree with the Brit here.

JohnDoe
10-08-2007, 10:07 PM
Brits wonder how Hillary without any qualifications is a front runner (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/05/AR2007100501680.html)

I have to agree with the Brit here.

who, running for president in 2008 has strong qualifications to you avatar?

And what are those ''strong qualifications'' defined in your opinion?

jd

manu1959
10-08-2007, 10:14 PM
seven years as an NY senator...before that....nothing...

from the original link

Seven years ago, she turned up in New York, a state with which she had a somewhat tenuous connection, expecting to be made senator by acclamation (particularly once Rudy Giuliani decided not to run against her). Until that point, she had never won or even sought any elective office, not in the House or in a state legislature. Nor had she held any executive-branch position. The only political task with which she had ever been entrusted was her husband's health-care reforms, and she made a complete hash of that.

and this

Now Hillary Rodham Clinton has become a potential president because she is famous for being a wife (and a wronged wife at that). Europe has long since accepted the great 19th-century liberal principle of "the career open to the talents." In the 21st century, isn't it time that the republic founded on the proposition that all men are created equal -- and women, too, one hopes -- also caught up with it?

JohnDoe
10-08-2007, 10:40 PM
seven years as an NY senator...before that....nothing...

from the original link

Seven years ago, she turned up in New York, a state with which she had a somewhat tenuous connection, expecting to be made senator by acclamation (particularly once Rudy Giuliani decided not to run against her). Until that point, she had never won or even sought any elective office, not in the House or in a state legislature. Nor had she held any executive-branch position. The only political task with which she had ever been entrusted was her husband's health-care reforms, and she made a complete hash of that.

and this

Now Hillary Rodham Clinton has become a potential president because she is famous for being a wife (and a wronged wife at that). Europe has long since accepted the great 19th-century liberal principle of "the career open to the talents." In the 21st century, isn't it time that the republic founded on the proposition that all men are created equal -- and women, too, one hopes -- also caught up with it?

oh pleaseeeeee, nothing but partisan HOGWASH.... if you can't see that then put the glasses on to read it again.

What do the other candidates all have that is more experienced... ? There is a couple out there that I believe have strong qualifications but this is just a couple of candidates and the other near 15 have no more qualifications than her and no one is coming out and saying anything about them and their supposed lack of qualifications...maybe because they are men, but who knows?

and as far as Rudy dropping out of the race against hillary, he had to, cuz he was gonna lose against her, bigtime, I would suppose?

And Romney was a transplant in to massachusetts when he won his governorship...fyi.... yeah, yeah, he had lived in the state once before...crapola.... he was still a transplant in my book.


jd

REDWHITEBLUE2
10-08-2007, 10:43 PM
Brits wonder how Hillary without any qualifications is a front runner (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/05/AR2007100501680.html)

I have to agree with the Brit here. The MSM Thats Who :lol:

manu1959
10-08-2007, 10:50 PM
oh pleaseeeeee, nothing but partisan HOGWASH.... if you can't see that then put the glasses on to read it again.

What do the other candidates all have that is more experienced... ? There is a couple out there that I believe have strong qualifications but this is just a couple of candidates and the other near 15 have no more qualifications than her and no one is coming out and saying anything about them and their supposed lack of qualifications...maybe because they are men, but who knows?

and as far as Rudy dropping out of the race against hillary, he had to, cuz he was gonna lose against her, bigtime, I would suppose?

And Romney was a transplant in to massachusetts when he won his governorship...fyi.... yeah, yeah, he had lived in the state once before...crapola.... he was still a transplant in my book.


jd

really....what experience did she have prior to being a senator....

are you saying she didn't get well know because she was married to bill....

if she wasn't married to bill you would have never heard of her and she would have definatley never been elected senator.....

and by making comparatives....are you saying her lack of experience is justified by the lack of experience of others therefore our president should have no experience.....btw...obama has less

red states rule
10-09-2007, 06:31 AM
oh pleaseeeeee, nothing but partisan HOGWASH.... if you can't see that then put the glasses on to read it again.

What do the other candidates all have that is more experienced... ? There is a couple out there that I believe have strong qualifications but this is just a couple of candidates and the other near 15 have no more qualifications than her and no one is coming out and saying anything about them and their supposed lack of qualifications...maybe because they are men, but who knows?

and as far as Rudy dropping out of the race against hillary, he had to, cuz he was gonna lose against her, bigtime, I would suppose?

And Romney was a transplant in to massachusetts when he won his governorship...fyi.... yeah, yeah, he had lived in the state once before...crapola.... he was still a transplant in my book.


jd

Rudy driopped out because of his cancer

Hillary has zero accomplishments - except the long list of corruption during the eight years of Bill

As far as Rudy's accomplishments.......

Through robust policing, Giuliani drove overall crime down 56.1 percent, while chopping homicides 66.6 percent, from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001.

Following national trends, abortions on Giuliani’s watch dropped 16.9 percent, while taxpayer-funded Medicaid abortions plunged 23 percent.

Gotham’s foster-care population fell 38 percent as Giuliani helped loving families adopt 17,804 boys and girls.

By fighting fraud and finding work for legitimate beneficiaries, Giuliani cut welfare rolls 58 percent, starting two years before federal welfare reform. Giuliani renamed welfare offices “Job Centers.”

Giuliani privatized 23,625 previously confiscated, city-owned dwellings, 78 percent of supply, benefiting family and individual homeowners and tenants.

Giuliani dumped Gotham’s 20 percent set-aside and 10 percent overbid bonus for minority and female contractors. “The whole idea of quotas to me perpetuates discrimination,” he explained. He initiated this on his 24th day in office, far exceeding any colorblindness legislation Congress even debated during the 12-year “Republican Revolution.”

Giuliani’s $10 million Charter School Improvement Fund helped 3,286 pupils in 17 new charter schools, up from $0 and zero campuses in 1997. He ended tenure for school principals, so slackers could be sacked. He also stopped social promotion; students needed to complete grade-level work to matriculate.

Ex-pornography mecca Times Square now welcomes families, tourists and locals for fully clothed musicals like “The Lion King” and “Mary Poppins


I do wish Rudy was more conservative, but on the issues that matter most to me - I agree with him

avatar4321
10-09-2007, 09:57 AM
who, running for president in 2008 has strong qualifications to you avatar?

And what are those ''strong qualifications'' defined in your opinion?

jd

just about everyone. On the Democrat side, as much as it pains me to say this, Biden is alot more qualified. So is Dodd. On the Republican side, just about every single candidate.

Leadership experience. Integrity. a vision for the future. a history of accomplishment. There are alot of qualifications, none of which Hillary has.

The real question is other than her last name being Clinton, what experience does she have that justifies giving her the presidency.

Hagbard Celine
10-09-2007, 10:06 AM
Brits wonder how Hillary without any qualifications is a front runner (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/05/AR2007100501680.html)

I have to agree with the Brit here.

Not qualified? Uh. Ran for Senate twice. Won twice--in a state she wasn't native to no less. Earned a bachelors degree in political science. Earned a Juris Doctorate degree from Yale. Served two terms as first lady of the US and was regarded as one of the most active first ladies ever to hold the post as well as being first lady of Arkansas prior to that. She's a parent. She's met with and made policy with numerous world leaders including many in the Middle East.
She's much more qualified than even our current president. Quit being a hater and stop listening to Rush "Hater" Limbaugh.

red states rule
10-09-2007, 12:41 PM
Not qualified? Uh. Ran for Senate twice. Won twice--in a state she wasn't native to no less. Earned a bachelors degree in political science. Earned a Juris Doctorate degree from Yale. Served two terms as first lady of the US and was regarded as one of the most active first ladies ever to hold the post as well as being first lady of Arkansas prior to that. She's a parent. She's met with and made policy with numerous world leaders including many in the Middle East.
She's much more qualified than even our current president. Quit being a hater and stop listening to Rush "Hater" Limbaugh.

and her acomplishments in the Senate are?

John "I Served In Viet Nam" Kerry had the same gap in his resume