What's up with OUR house ?

[Mr. P]

It seems like we're dying here.
Where has everyone gone?

[Gunny]

It seems like we're dying here.
Where has everyone gone?

You want guesses? Observations? Except when speaking for myself, that's all I got :)

If I was to point a finger at one thing I think has transformed this board into a tomb? Self-censorship. That thing we all rail about while being completely complicit. Won't, don't and/or feel one can't express what one truly thinks for fear of offending others. It isn't like we can't for the most part predict who will react how on what.

And if I was going to point a finger at the biggest single reason for THAT is the uniter, Donald Trump.

The next, other-ist thing strictly from my POV is: I've gotten to the point of throwing shit against the wall to see if any of it is going to stick, and nobody seems much interested in anything. going from memory, the most "prolific", attention-gathering thread I've posted in a couple of years was about grilling cheeseburgers :laugh:

I generally grab headlines and from what's free out there. If I DID pay, and took the time to cut-n-paste paywall articles, I would hardly feel it worth the time, effort, and $ for the return of cricket's chirping.

And if someone happens upon this board and has a different opinion? :death:No polite disagreement. Dogpile :laugh: Been my observation noobs have to adjust, and so do we, and not much effort is put into either end.

Another guess/observation: social media. For some reason people want to put their whole lives (or the ones they wished they lived) on FB/Twitter/what have you. Anything put on that crap is like the bullet that left the gun -- there's no taking it back. Too easy to get unintentionally caught up in some shit that the morons out there turn into real World consequences.

[Kathianne]

I'm with Gunny, the inability to discuss Trump in terms less than adoration in 2016 caused changes in myself and I believe others. I gave and returned less than civil discourse. I realized my very early instincts that Trump had awoken, not caused, a toxicity I didn't think was widespread in the conservative tent. Truly was manifested as evangelicals and leaders became the leaders in spite of all the obvious problems. There was no ask for forgiveness nor pledge of change. Results were all that mattered.

Trump won and kept campaign pledges, most importantly judges. The left lied, tried, impeached, and keeps doing so. The left has more people, more experience and the MSM. It's not stopping the right from trying to outgunned them, win or lose.

There's no one speaking to me any longer.

[jimnyc]

It seems like we're dying here.
Where has everyone gone?

I can speak to only a few things. Myself - been dealing with some personal/private issues and dealing with a few things over past several months. Planning on trying to get back on the horse now, but not sure how much it matters.

My posting as one person can't dictate the board, nor should the posting of one other posting. It takes a "board" of folks to keep a board up and running. My threads prompted no more or less posting from others.

I seriously don't think it's any folks doing anything or not doing anything. I think this slowly started with Facebook and other social media and has just kept forward in that pattern. More people there and more action.

And as things go slower, we lose interest here and there from yet another member. I think it's more a sign of the times than anything else. I won't give into the social media crap. I very rarely use it and usually only for keeping in touch with friends/family behind the scenes.

Still paying bills here hence the lights still on!

[jimnyc]

The next, other-ist thing strictly from my POV is: I've gotten to the point of throwing shit against the wall to see if any of it is going to stick, and nobody seems much interested in anything. going from memory, the most "prolific", attention-gathering thread I've posted in a couple of years was about grilling cheeseburgers :laugh

I look at it like fishing, toss in a bunch of bait and maybe get a hit or two. So be it, it's hard to post things to get interest to a much smaller crowd.

Your efforts are noticed though, and read... :)

[jimnyc]

I'm with Gunny, the inability to discuss Trump in terms less than adoration in 2016 caused changes in myself and I believe others. I gave and returned less than civil discourse. I realized my very early instincts that Trump had awoken, not caused, a toxicity I didn't think was widespread in the conservative tent. Truly was manifested as evangelicals and leaders became the leaders in spite of all the obvious problems. There was no ask for forgiveness nor pledge of change. Results were all that mattered.

Trump won and kept campaign pledges, most importantly judges. The left lied, tried, impeached, and keeps doing so. The left has more people, more experience and the MSM. It's not stopping the right from trying to outgunned them, win or lose.

There's no one speaking to me any longer.

I do! And I don't care what my stances were or will be. I'll talk smack about a ton of shit that Trump has done over time that was plain stupid - and I couldn't care less if folks get angry at me for it. Just as I couldn't care less about folks who didn't care for my positive opinion of him in the past. So long as I'm making people angry with my opinions!! :thumb::laugh:

[Kathianne]

I do! And I don't care what my stances were or will be. I'll talk smack about a ton of shit that Trump has done over time that was plain stupid - and I couldn't care less if folks get angry at me for it. Just as I couldn't care less about folks who didn't care for my positive opinion of him in the past. So long as I'm making people angry with my opinions!! :thumb::laugh:

Lol! My last line was referring to politicians, I think I've made peace with most still here.

I'll always hang here, though I do wish there was more discussions like long ago.

[jimnyc]

Lol! My last line was referring to politicians, I think I've made peace with most still here.

I'll always hang here, though I do wish there was more discussions like long ago.

I have fond memories of many great discussions and debates over the years that were a lot of fun.

Remember back in the day with my sister and her friend Sandy? Posting what they called beautiful women for the guys that were all ultimately nothing but obese women? Those 2 were seriously retarded! But those days were fun posting. Spillmind and Bamthin annoying us along with 'jimnycWillDie' which was some crazy chick from Canada? Bonnie and lilCountrygal or something like that? And of course all of us that post here. So many others as well. Even was fond of 'ol Pabst drinking Psycho at times! LOL :laugh:

[icansayit]

It might just be me. But over the last year or so. It seems to me...
doing anything but posting a meme is fruitless. I can talk to myself all day.
But when I make a contribution here. I might as well just be making notes to myself.

So, after I stop here. I do a lot of browsing across many sites while avoiding all TV.
I gave up on trying to be a concerned citizen. So I go to the Youtube Comedy sections,
and The FIRST Amendment Auditors who actually make my Blood Pressure rise.
Arguing for the sake of arguing does nobody any good. We are but a SPECK OF SAND
on the entire Internet. See ya around!

[SassyLady]

For me ... got tired of having everything refuted by someone who never posted an original post. Just seemed they lived to refute anything someone else said.

Also, it wasn't just politics (Trump, election fraud, etc.) that shut this place down. It was disagreements regarding covid and vaccines. It seemed no one wanted to discuss anything that wasn't in the mainstream media. I don't watch MSM anymore so my sources were always shot down.

Can only try to open minds so much before it's just too exhausting.

[Gunny]

For me ... got tired of having everything refuted by someone who never posted an original post. Just seemed they lived to refute anything someone else said.

Also, it wasn't just politics (Trump, election fraud, etc.) that shut this place down. It was disagreements regarding covid and vaccines. It seemed no one wanted to discuss anything that wasn't in the mainstream media. I don't watch MSM anymore so my sources were always shot down.

Can only try to open minds so much before it's just too exhausting.I agree that the COVID argument also shut it down for some that allowed it to do so. Some refused to accept that others believed in their arguments just as much as anyone else. It takes two and door swings both ways.

I'll add to some of what Jim stated: we're just old and outdated by newer technology. I haven't even looked to see how may "bulletin boards" are left on the internet, nor how successful/unsuccessful they have become. Most of us joined when bulletin board were the latest-greatest.

I've always been leery of the internet period, and as it turns out with good cause. I'm certainly not going beyond this level. While anyone can find out anything they want about anyone (except criminal politicians), I figure they may as well have to work a little at it. I still have the means to dump all electronics and didi the F- out. I intend to keep it that way.

[hjmick]

Shit.

I had a whole thing typed out, but it sounded like whining.

I self censor. After a bad experience here when I spoke my mind about the man-child that is Trump, I chose to dabble in politics here very lightly. People changed with Trump, people on both sides. My bad experience came from a quarter I would have never expected... It's gotten better, but I tend to choose my adjectives carefully these days...


A lack of diversity also tends to make this place an echo chamber. That's one reason I smile when Gabos posts. I rarely agree with her, but at least she offers a fresh and different perspective. I don't know how to fix the lack of diversity, but I know one thing for sure, the lack of tolerance for new folk is a very big contributing factor to the lack of it...


I don't know. I may not post often, but I would absolutely hate to see this place go tits up...

[Gunny]

I should also point out the elephant in the room for me: School's out for the summer :crying33 And I can't make it not sound like wining. I already can't think of a single week since Christmas one of these rugrats hasn't been sick. lame or lazy and here instead of at school. I generally bounce my board time when they're gone.

Part of it is self-inflicted. I choose to take care of my grandson at the expense of my time.

So, posting for me is going to be more spastic than usual until they go back to school.

While I'm bitching ... if the damned adults around here would quit behaving like the oldest kids instead of the parents, it'd be a LOT easier :mad:

[gabosaurus]

You want guesses? Observations? Except when speaking for myself, that's all I got :) If I was to point a finger at one thing I think has transformed this board into a tomb? Self-censorship. That thing we all rail about while being completely complicit. Won't, don't and/or feel one can't express what one truly thinks for fear of offending others. It isn't like we can't for the most part predict who will react how on what. And if I was going to point a finger at the biggest single reason for THAT is the uniter, Donald Trump. The next, other-ist thing strictly from my POV is: I've gotten to the point of throwing shit against the wall to see if any of it is going to stick, and nobody seems much interested in anything. going from memory, the most "prolific", attention-gathering thread I've posted in a couple of years was about grilling cheeseburgers :laugh: I generally grab headlines and from what's free out there. If I DID pay, and took the time to cut-n-paste paywall articles, I would hardly feel it worth the time, effort, and $ for the return of cricket's chirping. And if someone happens upon this board and has a different opinion? :death:No polite disagreement. Dogpile :laugh: Been my observation noobs have to adjust, and so do we, and not much effort is put into either end. Another guess/observation: social media. For some reason people want to put their whole lives (or the ones they wished they lived) on FB/Twitter/what have you. Anything put on that crap is like the bullet that left the gun -- there's no taking it back. Too easy to get unintentionally caught up in some shit that the morons out there turn into real World consequences. Gunny, this might be your best post ever. You have hit the nail squarely on the head. When I first came here, Debate Policy was still about debate. After the Trump debacle (not talking about his presidency), discussion turned one way. The forum turned from lively debate into an echo chamber. You endorsed Trumpism or you got dogpiled. Liberals were not tolerated. I believe it drove off people who prefer clinging to the middle of the road. ---------------------------------> Jim, I hope you manage to work through your problems. You may despise me, but I still care about you and your family.

[RoccoR]

※→ et al,

It is the case on many occasions that I simply cannot contribute anything worthwhile. Rather than look foolish I remain silent.


Most Respectfully,
R

[Gunny]

Gunny, this might be your best post ever. You have hit the nail squarely on the head. When I first came here, Debate Policy was still about debate. After the Trump debacle (not talking about his presidency), discussion turned one way. The forum turned from lively debate into an echo chamber. You endorsed Trumpism or you got dogpiled. Liberals were not tolerated. I believe it drove off people who prefer clinging to the middle of the road. ---------------------------------> Jim, I hope you manage to work through your problems. You may despise me, but I still care about you and your family.

Your behavior on the board has more to do with how you have been treated than your political beliefs. You haven't been allowed back once out of the goodness of Jim's heart. Whatever you did to him, you screwed the pooch. Others have had to argue on behalf of your being allowed to return only for you to treat people like they are fools with no memories.

Any halfwit can troll. Takes a brain to hang on a board where you're the underdog. Try being yourself instead of a troll so obvious it insults everyone's intelligence.

[Gunny]

※→et al,

It is the case on many occasions that I simply cannot contribute anything worthwhile. Rather than look foolish I remain silent.


Most Respectfully,
RThat only works in real life where you can still be seen even if not heard :poke:

Internet rules are: if you say nothing it is an admission that you are wrong, lying or you lost :laugh:

[jimnyc]

Your behavior on the board has more to do with how you have been treated than your political beliefs. You haven't been allowed back once out of the goodness of Jim's heart. Whatever you did to him, you screwed the pooch. Others have had to argue on behalf of your being allowed to return only for you to treat people like they are fools with no memories.

Any halfwit can troll. Takes a brain to hang on a board where you're the underdog. Try being yourself instead of a troll so obvious it insults everyone's intelligence.

Very true. I never had an issue with Gabby's politics nor how stated. For whatever reason, and same with others and not just her, things take a left turn somewhere and it's often how someone handles themselves when off the beaten path.

[jimnyc]

Gunny, this might be your best post ever. You have hit the nail squarely on the head. When I first came here, Debate Policy was still about debate. After the Trump debacle (not talking about his presidency), discussion turned one way. The forum turned from lively debate into an echo chamber. You endorsed Trumpism or you got dogpiled. Liberals were not tolerated. I believe it drove off people who prefer clinging to the middle of the road. ---------------------------------> Jim, I hope you manage to work through your problems. You may despise me, but I still care about you and your family.

Family is all well, thanks! More just dealing with personal issues of my own. Nothing I can't handle, just took up some time was all. But now I'm slowly getting back on things and just in time for the long political race. And likely a long crappy one!


※→ et al,

It is the case on many occasions that I simply cannot contribute anything worthwhile. Rather than look foolish I remain silent.


Most Respectfully,
R

If it's your opinion on something posted here - then it's worthwhile! Don't be afraid to share. And pretty darned hard to look any more foolish than I do!! :)

[Black Diamond]

Family is all well, thanks! More just dealing with personal issues of my own. Nothing I can't handle, just took up some time was all. But now I'm slowly getting back on things and just in time for the long political race. And likely a long crappy one!



If it's your opinion on something posted here - then it's worthwhile! Don't be afraid to share. And pretty darned hard to look any more foolish than I do!! :)

You are very kind.

[gabosaurus]

Your behavior on the board has more to do with how you have been treated than your political beliefs. You haven't been allowed back once out of the goodness of Jim's heart. Whatever you did to him, you screwed the pooch. Others have had to argue on behalf of your being allowed to return only for you to treat people like they are fools with no memories. Any halfwit can troll. Takes a brain to hang on a board where you're the underdog. Try being yourself instead of a troll so obvious it insults everyone's intelligence. I disagree with this. My behavior has been no better or worse than anyone else posting on this board. The lone difference is that I have have a propensity for sarcasm, which has not often been received well. When I am attacked, I can either ignore it or respond twice as viciously. Bipolar people are like that. It's the mood swings. As a younger (now middle aged) liberal, it has never been easy to co-exist with older conservatives. The Trump swing made it even more difficult. My attempts to present the truth are often portrayed as "trolling." Since I was one person rocking the boat and throwing rocks into the wind. The more often you are beaten down, the less likely you are to forget it. As for "screwing the pooch," I don't remember doing so. But what happened in the past happened. As Donald Trump and Kari Lake have demonstrated, you can't change what happened no matter how loudly you scream and yell about it. Shit happens. Clean up or move on.

[NightTrain]

I am sure social media is over 90% the reason for less traffic.

Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Gab, Truth, all of them have been replacing message boards. These were the go-to at the dawn of the internet, and it's a natural progression.

Debate hasn't lessened, it's simply shifted platforms.

And people mellow and shift, too. I don't get as fired up about things as I used to - back in the day I'd spend a great many hours beating up the latest moonbat, and it was fun. But I've focused less on that in the last few years unless I see something so stupid that can't be let go... then we're off to the races!

I joined Twitter after Elon bought it and ejected all the commies running it - it's actually a pretty good platform now. Been following the Ukraine situation closely, there's many quality posters directly in the fighting posting their victories and defeats.

[RoccoR]

RE: Appearances
※→et al,

Your observation is duly noted.



※→et al,
It is the case on many occasions that I simply cannot contribute anything worthwhile. Rather than look foolish I remain silent.


That only works in real life where you can still be seen even if not heard :poke:
Internet rules are: if you say nothing it is an admission that you are wrong, lying or you lost :laugh:

(REFERENCE)
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◈ What is the golden rule of netiquette?

"Do not do or say online what you would not do or say offline."

Before posting a comment or publishing a status update, ask yourself if you would feel comfortable saying the same thing face-to-face to everyone who will see it. If not, don't post it. The same rule applies to images. If you wouldn't print it out and pass it out to others, don't share it on your online platforms either.

SOURCE: 10 Basic Netiquette Rules (https://www.verywellmind.com/ten-rules-of-netiquette-22285) • Elizabeth Hartney, BSc, MSc, MA, PhD


(COMMENT)
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I guess → I'm a bit old school. At seventy years old, some characteristics of my nature are most difficult to change. I ask that you excuse my shortcomings.



Most Respectfully,
R (AAS, BS, Mhs.B, Mhs.M, Ph.D)

[Gunny]

I disagree with this. My behavior has been no better or worse than anyone else posting on this board. The lone difference is that I have have a propensity for sarcasm, which has not often been received well. When I am attacked, I can either ignore it or respond twice as viciously. Bipolar people are like that. It's the mood swings. As a younger (now middle aged) liberal, it has never been easy to co-exist with older conservatives. The Trump swing made it even more difficult. My attempts to present the truth are often portrayed as "trolling." Since I was one person rocking the boat and throwing rocks into the wind. The more often you are beaten down, the less likely you are to forget it. As for "screwing the pooch," I don't remember doing so. But what happened in the past happened. As Donald Trump and Kari Lake have demonstrated, you can't change what happened no matter how loudly you scream and yell about it. Shit happens. Clean up or move on.

Prove it. Deeds not words. Going forward rather than rehashing water under the bridge.

[fj1200]

I was in Italy. :poke:

[hjmick]

I was in Italy. :poke:


Well lah-tee-dah Mr. Fancy Pants...


So what you're telling us is, they don't have the Internet in Italy...

[jimnyc]

I was in Italy. :poke:

Pictures or it simply never happened!


Well lah-tee-dah Mr. Fancy Pants...


So what you're telling us is, they don't have the Internet in Italy...

Agreed here H! Fucker can go on a vacation allllllllll the way over to Italy, but can't be bothered to whip out the Ipad/Phone and make some posts for us? :2up::laugh:

[fj1200]

Well lah-tee-dah Mr. Fancy Pants...


So what you're telling us is, they don't have the Internet in Italy...

Only had my phone and that made me cross eyed enough without having to learn how to argue, err, make valid original, thoughtful posts on such a device.

[fj1200]

Pictures or it simply never happened!



Agreed here H! Fucker can go on a vacation allllllllll the way over to Italy, but can't be bothered to whip out the Ipad/Phone and make some posts for us? :2up::laugh:

I didn't want my mom to grab my ear to tell me to stop being a screenager. :eek:

[jimnyc]

Only had my phone and that made me cross eyed enough without having to learn how to argue, err, make valid original, thoughtful posts on such a device.

I whip out my phone while on vacation, load up DP to make a post or 2, see the size of the keyboard compared to the size of my finger... and now you know.

[jimnyc]

I didn't want my mom to grab my ear to tell me to stop being a screenager. :eek:

My wifey does the same, then reminds me she isn't my Mom and I'm no longer a teen. She's quite the party pooper.

[Gunny]

I was in Italy. :poke:You spoiled my fun spoiling yours :slap: Didn't know where you were exactly, but I had already come to some conclusions regarding your whereabouts at times.