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Kathianne
09-07-2023, 10:46 AM
We've done this, the answer to our problems starts with getting rid of Biden AND Trump:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-gops-big-2024-problem-wsj-polling-indictments-e3c52288?st=pxdj75nk5ju9fut&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


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The GOP’s Big 2024 Problem
A WSJ poll finds indictments are helping Trump in the Republican primaries, but not with all voters.
By The Editorial Board
Updated Sept. 4, 2023 5:58 pm ET


OPINION: POTOMAC WATCH
WSJ Opinion Potomac Watch


The poll finds that in a 2024 general-election test President Biden and the former President are tied at 46%. Given Mr. Trump’s myriad legal problems, this shows how weak an incumbent Mr. Biden is. But a poll this far out from Election Day also doesn’t tell you much given how events can change.


The better insight comes when respondents were asked: “Do Donald Trump’s indictments make you more likely or less likely to vote for him, or have no impact on whether or not you would vote for Donald Trump?”


Among Republican primary voters, here are the responses: More likely to vote for Mr. Trump 48%; less likely 16%, and no effect on their vote 36%.


That result confirms what we’ve seen this year, which is that the indictments by Democratic prosecutors are helping Mr. Trump win the GOP’s presidential nod. The biggest jump in Mr. Trump’s support came after the first indictment for hush-money payments by Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg, and the other indictments changed that very little. This is exactly the result that Democrats want: Keep the focus on Mr. Trump so he wins the nomination, and then convict him in trials before the general election in November.


That strategy is reinforced by the responses when the WSJ survey asked registered voters the same question about the indictments. Their responses: 24% were more likely to vote for Mr. Trump, but 37% were less likely, and 35% said it would have no effect.


The Republican peril is that more than one-and-a-half times as many voters say the indictments make them less likely to vote for Mr. Trump than more likely. This reflects the tilt of independent voters, as well as the 16% of GOP voters who say the indictments make them less likely to vote for Mr. Trump.


These responses are before any of the coming four trials, three of which are already scheduled before the 2024 general election. An acquittal or hung jury could work in Mr. Trump’s favor, which is why the Democratic indictment strategy is high risk.


But one or more convictions would probably confirm the judgment of voters who say they are less likely to vote for Mr. Trump. If Republicans nominate Mr. Trump, they are likely to be sailing into a political headwind that will be difficult to overcome.

Gunny
09-07-2023, 11:21 AM
This is exactly the result that Democrats want: Keep the focus on Mr. Trump so he wins the nomination, and then convict him in trials before the general election in November.

I don't even know how long I've been saying this.

Kathianne
09-07-2023, 11:23 AM
I don't even know how long I've been saying this.
You, I and everyone that is cognizant. It's the sheep, that thinks they are so 'tough,' that don't get it.

AHZ
09-07-2023, 03:13 PM
We've done this, the answer to our problems starts with getting rid of Biden AND Trump:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-gops-big-2024-problem-wsj-polling-indictments-e3c52288?st=pxdj75nk5ju9fut&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink


have you seen trumps polling?

your never trumper dum dum sauce is the only thing wrong with republicans.

yes. this is a different opinion than yours.

stay in control.

remember fairness.

Kathianne
09-07-2023, 04:09 PM
have you seen trumps polling?

your never trumper dum dum sauce is the only thing wrong with republicans.

yes. this is a different opinion than yours.

stay in control.

remember fairness.

:rolleyes:

Black Diamond
09-07-2023, 04:23 PM
have you seen trumps polling?

your never trumper dum dum sauce is the only thing wrong with republicans.

yes. this is a different opinion than yours.

stay in control.

remember fairness.

I am sure they did. The polls feed into their theory that dems can make trump win the nomination and then convict him and take him off the ballot in key states, thus giving Biden the election and four more years.
This would explain why Biden acts as if he is untouchable

Black Diamond
09-07-2023, 04:26 PM
Let's keep in mind which party the governors in MI PA and WI belong

Gunny
09-07-2023, 05:11 PM
have you seen trumps polling?

your never trumper dum dum sauce is the only thing wrong with republicans.

yes. this is a different opinion than yours.

stay in control.

remember fairness.Your different opinion is stupid, and nothing more than an ad hominem.

AHZ
09-07-2023, 06:25 PM
I am sure they did. The polls feed into their theory that dems can make trump win the nomination and then convict him and take him off the ballot in key states, thus giving Biden the election and four more years.
This would explain why Biden acts as if he is untouchable


their trickery will not prevail this time.

Gunny
09-07-2023, 06:52 PM
their trickery will not prevail this time.Trickery. Do tell. Explain how this time will be different. The National narrative is Trump is lying about voter fraud, while he on trial for voter fraud. He's the only one that got caught.

The red states he carried anyway tightened up their voting laws. The blue states he lost still haven't and won't.

AHZ
09-08-2023, 12:48 AM
Trickery. Do tell. Explain how this time will be different. The National narrative is Trump is lying about voter fraud, while he on trial for voter fraud. He's the only one that got caught.

The red states he carried anyway tightened up their voting laws. The blue states he lost still haven't and won't.


the whole nation now sees what idjit malevolent fools all never trumpers are, in both parties.