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red states rule
10-13-2007, 08:33 AM
The liberal media is giving glowing coverage and writing puff pieces about Al Gore. There is a movement to get him to run for President.

Wil Al run again for the White House?

Libs say Al was to smart to be President, which is why he lost in 04:lol:

I would like to see Al VS Hillary, How about you?


Al Gore: the anti-Bush
October 13, 2007

Jonathan Chait:


When Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday, conservatives reacted with apoplexy. Talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh, conservative bloggers and other Republican faithful denounced the prize as a fraud.

You might wonder why they care so much -- Gore, after all, is obviously not going to run for president, and even some conservatives now concede that global warming is real. The answer is that Gore's triumph is a measure of George W. Bush's disrepute.

Indeed, in the political culture, Gore's role is as a negative indicator of the president's standing. For all the talk of a "new Al Gore," there's nothing new about the man. His public reputation is almost entirely a function of Bush's.

The high point of Bush's prestige came in the months after Sept. 11, 2001. As Bush put it in a year-end interview: "All in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." (It certainly was, if you could put aside the 3,000 American deaths, which Bush apparently could.)

That was also the moment when it was most fashionable to ridicule Gore. He was described as "goofily bearded" or "sulking." Democrats were publicly declaring they were glad Bush, and not Gore, was in the Oval Office.

Gore, the thinking went, was too intellectual and lacked Bush's gut-sense understanding of good and evil. A staunch Gore backer explained his relief at Bush's victory thusly: "[Gore] may know too much." At the time, this trait was seen as far more problematic than knowing too little. A poll in late 2001 found that 76% of Americans preferred Bush over Gore as a war leader.

In 2002, when Gore began to criticize Bush's approach to Iraq, conservatives attacked him savagely. The popular phrase at the time was "moral clarity," a trait Bush had but Gore lacked.

It's not an accident that the current celebrations of Gore come at a time when Bush's popularity has cratered. Once conservatives mocked Gore as the radical tribune of a tiny political fringe; now it is they who represent the fringe.

Their argument with Gore over global warming is a telling indicator of their weakened position. Suddenly, open debate looks better than absolute clarity. Steven F. Hayward, a global warming skeptic at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, sniffed: "The Nobel will be one more quiver in Gore's arsenal of intransigent moral authority by which he refuses to debate any aspect of the subject and declares the entire matter 'settled.' It's never a good sign when politicians declare a scientific matter settled; we all remember how well that worked out for the Vatican when they told Galileo 400 years ago that astronomy was settled."

So Gore can't declare that any scientific matter is settled? (What about the Earth revolves around the sun -- would that offend conservatives?) Funny what happens when it's your views that are out of the mainstream.

The defensiveness of Gore's critics comes because he is the ultimate rebuke to Bush. Gore, obviously, is the great historic counter-factual, the man who would have been president if Florida had a functioning ballot system. More than that, he is the anti-Bush. He is intellectual and introverted, while Bush is simplistic and backslapping.

Some of us prefer a president like Gore no matter what. But many people don't have a strong preference, or don't think very hard about what Gore would have been like as president. Therefore, he lacks a positive identity; people think of him only as the anti-Bush.

But Gore is highly prescient in his own right. Not only was he an early activist against global warming, he favored the first Gulf War, urged military action in the Balkans and opposed the current Iraq war. His denunciation of Bush as a captive of business interests -- ridiculed as dime-store populism -- has proved a telling critique of this administration, which has crafted legislation perfectly suited to oil companies, HMOs and pharmaceuticals. But his standing in history will probably have less to do with anything he said or did than with Bush's record. Fortunately for Gore, though unfortunately for the world, he's likely to make out just as well either way.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-chait13oct13,0,1267031.column?coll=la-opinion-center

actsnoblemartin
10-13-2007, 04:05 PM
far far away, since he cant win


The liberal media is giving glowing coverage and writing puff pieces about Al Gore. There is a movement to get him to run for President.

Wil Al run again for the White House?

Libs say Al was to smart to be President, which is why he lost in 04:lol:

I would like to see Al VS Hillary, How about you?


Al Gore: the anti-Bush
October 13, 2007

Jonathan Chait:


When Al Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday, conservatives reacted with apoplexy. Talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh, conservative bloggers and other Republican faithful denounced the prize as a fraud.

You might wonder why they care so much -- Gore, after all, is obviously not going to run for president, and even some conservatives now concede that global warming is real. The answer is that Gore's triumph is a measure of George W. Bush's disrepute.

Indeed, in the political culture, Gore's role is as a negative indicator of the president's standing. For all the talk of a "new Al Gore," there's nothing new about the man. His public reputation is almost entirely a function of Bush's.

The high point of Bush's prestige came in the months after Sept. 11, 2001. As Bush put it in a year-end interview: "All in all, it's been a fabulous year for Laura and me." (It certainly was, if you could put aside the 3,000 American deaths, which Bush apparently could.)

That was also the moment when it was most fashionable to ridicule Gore. He was described as "goofily bearded" or "sulking." Democrats were publicly declaring they were glad Bush, and not Gore, was in the Oval Office.

Gore, the thinking went, was too intellectual and lacked Bush's gut-sense understanding of good and evil. A staunch Gore backer explained his relief at Bush's victory thusly: "[Gore] may know too much." At the time, this trait was seen as far more problematic than knowing too little. A poll in late 2001 found that 76% of Americans preferred Bush over Gore as a war leader.

In 2002, when Gore began to criticize Bush's approach to Iraq, conservatives attacked him savagely. The popular phrase at the time was "moral clarity," a trait Bush had but Gore lacked.

It's not an accident that the current celebrations of Gore come at a time when Bush's popularity has cratered. Once conservatives mocked Gore as the radical tribune of a tiny political fringe; now it is they who represent the fringe.

Their argument with Gore over global warming is a telling indicator of their weakened position. Suddenly, open debate looks better than absolute clarity. Steven F. Hayward, a global warming skeptic at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, sniffed: "The Nobel will be one more quiver in Gore's arsenal of intransigent moral authority by which he refuses to debate any aspect of the subject and declares the entire matter 'settled.' It's never a good sign when politicians declare a scientific matter settled; we all remember how well that worked out for the Vatican when they told Galileo 400 years ago that astronomy was settled."

So Gore can't declare that any scientific matter is settled? (What about the Earth revolves around the sun -- would that offend conservatives?) Funny what happens when it's your views that are out of the mainstream.

The defensiveness of Gore's critics comes because he is the ultimate rebuke to Bush. Gore, obviously, is the great historic counter-factual, the man who would have been president if Florida had a functioning ballot system. More than that, he is the anti-Bush. He is intellectual and introverted, while Bush is simplistic and backslapping.

Some of us prefer a president like Gore no matter what. But many people don't have a strong preference, or don't think very hard about what Gore would have been like as president. Therefore, he lacks a positive identity; people think of him only as the anti-Bush.

But Gore is highly prescient in his own right. Not only was he an early activist against global warming, he favored the first Gulf War, urged military action in the Balkans and opposed the current Iraq war. His denunciation of Bush as a captive of business interests -- ridiculed as dime-store populism -- has proved a telling critique of this administration, which has crafted legislation perfectly suited to oil companies, HMOs and pharmaceuticals. But his standing in history will probably have less to do with anything he said or did than with Bush's record. Fortunately for Gore, though unfortunately for the world, he's likely to make out just as well either way.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-chait13oct13,0,1267031.column?coll=la-opinion-center

red states rule
10-13-2007, 04:23 PM
Al is a jok that long ago ceased to be funny

Yet some libs actually listen to him and thinks he makes sense

actsnoblemartin
10-13-2007, 04:30 PM
he created the heavens and the earth, oh wait that was god :cheers2:


Al is a jok that long ago ceased to be funny

Yet some libs actually listen to him and thinks he makes sense

red states rule
10-13-2007, 06:37 PM
he created the heavens and the earth, oh wait that was god :cheers2:

and invented the internet

and he and Tipper was the inspiration for Love Story

April15
10-13-2007, 06:39 PM
Al Gore is a man who was voted by a court to not be president. He got over it and went on with what was important to him. That he has usurped our president in glory, if you want to call it that, and will have a far better legacy than certain presidents with regards to the future of the world, insures he will not run for president.
And by now most everyone has seen how much a failure Bush is, so only the Bush apollogists speak up for profit over earth.

red states rule
10-13-2007, 06:43 PM
Al Gore is a man who was voted by a court to not be president. He got over it and went on with what was important to him. That he has usurped our president in glory, if you want to call it that, and will have a far better legacy than certain presidents with regards to the future of the world, insures he will not run for president.
And by now most everyone has seen how much a failure Bush is, so only the Bush apollogists speak up for profit over earth.

Al lost the vote in FL

Even the liberal media went down and conducted their own recout

Libs need to get over it - Bush beat Gore and the votes were counted


Bush still wins Florida in newspaper recount



April 4, 2001
Web posted at: 11:26 a.m. EDT (1526 GMT)

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- If a recount of Florida's disputed votes in last year's close presidential election had been allowed to proceed by the U.S. Supreme Court, Republican George W. Bush still would have won the White House, two newspapers reported Wednesday.

The Miami Herald and USA Today conducted a comprehensive review of 64,248 "undercounted" ballots in Florida's 67 counties that ended last month.

Their count showed that Bush's razor-thin margin of 537 votes -- certified in December by the Florida Secretary of State's office -- would have tripled to 1,665 votes if counted according to standards advocated by his Democratic rival, former Vice President Al Gore.

"In the end, I think we probably confirmed that President Bush should have been president of the United States," said Mark Seibel, the paper's managing editor. "I think that it was worthwhile because so many people had questions about how the ballots had been handled and how the process had worked."

Ironically, a tougher standard of counting only cleanly punched ballots advocated by many Republicans would have resulted in a Gore lead of just three votes, the newspaper reported.

The newspapers' review also discovered that canvassing boards in Palm Beach and Broward counties threw out hundreds of ballots that had marks that were no different from ballots deemed to be valid.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/04/04/florida.recount.01/index.html

April15
10-13-2007, 06:49 PM
Al lost the vote in FL

Even the liberal media went down and conducted their own recout

Libs need to get over it - Bush beat Gore and the votes were counted


Bush still wins Florida in newspaper recount



April 4, 2001
Web posted at: 11:26 a.m. EDT (1526 GMT)

MIAMI, Florida (CNN) -- If a recount of Florida's disputed votes in last year's close presidential election had been allowed to proceed by the U.S. Supreme Court, Republican George W. Bush still would have won the White House, two newspapers reported Wednesday.

The Miami Herald and USA Today conducted a comprehensive review of 64,248 "undercounted" ballots in Florida's 67 counties that ended last month.

Their count showed that Bush's razor-thin margin of 537 votes -- certified in December by the Florida Secretary of State's office -- would have tripled to 1,665 votes if counted according to standards advocated by his Democratic rival, former Vice President Al Gore.

"In the end, I think we probably confirmed that President Bush should have been president of the United States," said Mark Seibel, the paper's managing editor. "I think that it was worthwhile because so many people had questions about how the ballots had been handled and how the process had worked."

Ironically, a tougher standard of counting only cleanly punched ballots advocated by many Republicans would have resulted in a Gore lead of just three votes, the newspaper reported.

The newspapers' review also discovered that canvassing boards in Palm Beach and Broward counties threw out hundreds of ballots that had marks that were no different from ballots deemed to be valid.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/04/04/florida.recount.01/index.html

In the end it was SCOTUS that ended the election. Again, Al Gore is a man who was voted by a court to not be president. He got over it and went on with what was important to him. That he has usurped our president in glory, if you want to call it that, and will have a far better legacy than certain presidents with regards to the future of the world, insures he will not run for president.
And by now most everyone has seen how much a failure Bush is, so only the Bush apollogists speak up for profit over earth.
Bask in the glory of a tainted vote, third world counties do better, for your anointed looser. My winner got a nobel, oscar, and a reputation for doing the right thing!

red states rule
10-13-2007, 06:51 PM
In the end it was SCOTUS that ended the election. Again, Al Gore is a man who was voted by a court to not be president. He got over it and went on with what was important to him. That he has usurped our president in glory, if you want to call it that, and will have a far better legacy than certain presidents with regards to the future of the world, insures he will not run for president.
And by now most everyone has seen how much a failure Bush is, so only the Bush apollogists speak up for profit over earth.
Bask in the glory of a tainted vote, third world counties do better, for your anointed looser. My winner got a nobel, oscar, and a reputation for doing the right thing!

I know it is hard for libs to admit it when they lose an election

Al lost by a couple of hundred votes of votes - even his own home state voted against him as well

Get over it

April15
10-13-2007, 07:07 PM
I know it is hard for libs to admit it when they lose an election

Al lost by a couple of hundred votes of votes - even his own home state voted against him as well

Get over itI have and Bush is living proof that creationism has no basis.

red states rule
10-13-2007, 07:08 PM
I have and Bush is living proof that creationism has no basis.

and you are living proof that Bush Derangement Syndrome is alive and well

April15
10-14-2007, 04:59 PM
and you are living proof that Bush Derangement Syndrome is alive and wellI thought that was a disease of the Bush apollogists, not libbys. You know accepting all the lies about the war, torture, brownie doing a good job and all that tripe.

bluestatesrule
10-14-2007, 06:25 PM
That was a great piece on Gore. Whether or not you agree with Gore...he is out there hustling for what he believes in....he is pursuing his passion....the conservatives attack...and attack...and attack....I wonder if they would think the nobel prize was a fraud if one of their own won it?

DrJohn
10-15-2007, 02:03 AM
www.draftgore.com