View Full Version : Democrats face big decision on McCarthy
Gunny
09-19-2023, 07:47 PM
Been wondering about this as far as the budget is concerned. Support McCarthy's CR or no? Now it's do they support his ouster or no. Any way you look at it, the Republicans come off as weak and divided.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4212944-democrats-face-big-decision-on-mccarthy/
Gunny
09-19-2023, 08:26 PM
Here's another "plan". Definitely would cost Republicans. Better explanation of situation.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/19/politics/what-is-a-discharge-petition-congress/index.html
Black Diamond
09-19-2023, 09:20 PM
Been wondering about this as far as the budget is concerned. Support McCarthy's CR or no? Now it's do they support his ouster or no. Any way you look at it, the Republicans come off as weak and divided.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4212944-democrats-face-big-decision-on-mccarthy/
I didn't think this was going to pass the house. Only takes a few defectors.
Black Diamond
09-19-2023, 09:24 PM
Dems would be smart to get rid of Biden. Except then we (and they) get Harris. Which could make it worse for them.
Kathianne
09-19-2023, 09:39 PM
Been wondering about this as far as the budget is concerned. Support McCarthy's CR or no? Now it's do they support his ouster or no. Any way you look at it, the Republicans come off as weak and divided.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4212944-democrats-face-big-decision-on-mccarthy/
They are weak and divided. You've got the bullies and the traditionalists. While the trads aren't going anywhere soon, they will not stand up to the bullies.
fj1200
09-19-2023, 10:52 PM
Dems would be smart to get rid of Biden. Except then we (and they) get Harris. Which could make it worse for them.
Not if they can convince him to just not run again. If Harris isn't tied to him as veep she'll never be the pic.
Black Diamond
09-19-2023, 10:53 PM
Not if they can convince him to just not run again. If Harris isn't tied to him as veep she'll never be the pic.
I think that's extremely unlikely.
fj1200
09-19-2023, 10:54 PM
I think that's extremely unlikely.
Yup, some big ifs.
Gunny
09-20-2023, 07:13 AM
Dems would be smart to get rid of Biden. Except then we (and they) get Harris. Which could make it worse for them.Been saying this for awhile:
Why should the Dems get rid of Biden when they've got the Republican't's doing it for them? When all is said and done and the smoke clears, the legit reasons will be lost to a narrative of "the Republican't's impeached Biden as tit-for-tat, partisan reasons. A message that will be reinforced hourly by MSM propaganda until it becomes truth to the sheep.
The Republican't's have been a day late and a dollar short since at least 2008 getting any real message to the sheeple. Their timing has been horrible. They aren't capitalizing on nor emphasizing the complete screw-ups the Dems are. Don't remember the last time I heard: "We are the Republican party and we stand UNIFIED for ....".
They'll be lucky to hold the House in 2024.
The Republican't's have been a day late and a dollar short since at least 2008 getting any real message to the sheeple.
wrong.
you're leaving out the very big trump splash made with the sorely needed economic populism he brings to the table, with great success.
are you revising history in real time?
Gunny
09-20-2023, 08:04 AM
you're leaving out the very big trump splash made with the sorely needed economic populism he brings to the table, with great success.Not about Trump.
If you wish to discuss the "big splash" Trump made with his meddling in the midterm elections and costing the Republicans seats in the House and Senate which would have rectified this situation by rendering 5 votes bothersome but unnecessary, start another thread on that topic.
Not about Trump.
If you wish to discuss the "big splash" Trump made with his meddling in the midterm elections and costing the Republicans seats in the House and Senate which would have rectified this situation by rendering 5 votes bothersome but unnecessary, start another thread on that topic.
you are just factually wrong with your "no message since 2008" stuff.
Gunny
09-20-2023, 08:15 AM
you are just factually wrong with your "no message since 2008" stuff.Stick to the topic. Start another thread if you wish to pimp your hero. My comment stands, to include him.
Meantime, the issue is where the Republicans stand as far as getting just a continuing resolution, never mind the budget they're supposed to have. While the spectre of Trump hangs like a black cloud over current events due to his meddling, the topic is not about him.
Stick to the topic. Start another thread if you wish to pimp your hero. My comment stands, to include him.
Meantime, the issue is where the Republicans stand as far as getting just a continuing resolution, never mind the budget they're supposed to have. While the spectre of Trump hangs like a black cloud over current events due to his meddling, the topic is not about him.
this is directly relevant to your assertion about republican messages.
its on topic.
why don't you just lighten up a tad.
Gunny
09-20-2023, 08:22 AM
this is directly relevant to your assertion about republican messages.
its on topic.
why don't you just lighten up a tad.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/20/biden-white-house-mccarthy-shutdown-budget-00116965
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/20/biden-white-house-mccarthy-shutdown-budget-00116965
tldr.
a politico piece doesnt change anything about republican messaging.
Gunny
09-20-2023, 08:28 AM
tldr.
a politico piece doesnt change anything about republican messaging.
It explains the WH's position on the current situation in Congress regarding the budget and possible government shutdown. The topic of the thread.
It explains the WH's position on the current situation in Congress regarding the budget and possible government shutdown. The topic of the thread.
I was responding to your post.
was your post off topic?
you gonna thread ban yourself?
NightTrain
09-20-2023, 08:37 AM
I was responding to your post.
was your post off topic?
you gonna thread ban yourself?
Take another 24.
We're going to come to an understanding, you and I. Your shitposting is not going to be tolerated.
Sayonara for now.
Gunny
09-20-2023, 08:43 AM
The Republicans are giving themselves a PR beatdown. IIRC, this kind of drama is one of the primary reasons Biden currently occupies the WH.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/20/politics/government-shutdown-house-republicans/index.html
Gunny
09-20-2023, 08:59 AM
https://thehill.com/newsletters/morning-report/4213450-can-house-republicans-govern/
The "good news" is we haven't made the BBC Page One. Yet :smoke:
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