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Kathianne
09-29-2023, 05:34 PM
Both parties suk!

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/09/28/could-a-third-party-save-america/


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Could a third party save America?Voters deserve far better than the decrepit Democrats and Republicans.

With the presidential race now heating up, the US faces a choice of disastrous proportions. It is shaping up to be an unpopularity contest between Donald Trump – an unstable narcissist – and the doddering, likely corrupt Joe Biden. In fact, three-quarters of Americans think Biden is too old to be re-elected and the majority consider him not mentally up to the job.


Given that the vast majority do not want either of these foolish, dangerous old men to be in power, why not create an alternative party? This was last done successfully in 1854, with the founding of the Republican Party.


The US in 1854 was also deeply divided. At that time, the debate was about slavery, as well as tariffs and growing corporate power. Yet the force of modernity, as Karl Marx recognised at the time, was with the industrialised North, which would go on to crush the agrarian South.


The coalition of the ascendant first came together in 1854 to form the new Republican Party. The Republicans sought to revive the Hamiltonian tradition that had died with the Whigs, who had inherited it from the Federalists. They opposed the Democrats as they became ever more dominated by the interests of plantation owners. In contrast, the Republicans drew support from the industrialists, financiers, mechanics, artisans and independent farmers. Advocates of high protective tariffs and free homesteads for mechanics and farmers, wrote historians Charles and Mary Beard, ‘now mingled with ardent opponents of slavery in the territories’.


At their historic convening in Ripon, Wisconsin, the Republicans adopted a programme that could appeal to a broad spectrum of Americans. They took bold steps to limit slavery’s expansion and also to open new land for small farmers. They supported the growing ranks of American manufacturers and the building of infrastructure to expand the national economy. Abraham Lincoln, before becoming president, had represented railroads in the Midwest.


Today, the preconditions for a new party – and a new mingling of interests – are clearly there. Only 20 per cent of voters rate the economy as ‘excellent’ or ‘good’, versus 49 per cent who call it ‘poor’, notes a New York Times / Siena poll. Americans remain overwhelmingly pessimistic about the country’s future. In one recent poll, almost two in five Americans said they would consider voting for a third-party candidate. If that holds, it would be a larger vote share than either of the current deadly duo can muster.

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SassyLady
09-30-2023, 12:47 PM
Does having a 3rd party mean 2/3rds won't be represented?

Black Diamond
09-30-2023, 12:51 PM
Does having a 3rd party mean 2/3rds won't be represented?

It can with the popular vote. You can win 34 percent of the vote and still win. The electoral college complicates it.

Black Diamond
09-30-2023, 01:40 PM
SassyLady
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jimnyc
09-30-2023, 03:20 PM
Both parties suk!

Amen to that!

There is some sporadic decency mixed in there I am sure, but the majority are corrupt career politicians. I truly wish we could fire every last one of them and start fresh. Some damn people in office almost as long as I have been alive!

I'm not gonna celebrate Feinstein dying, but I will clap to seeing her gone from Washington. And then it's a long list after her. :(

Gunny
10-01-2023, 03:43 PM
Does having a 3rd party mean 2/3rds won't be represented?Think Parliament.