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SassyLady
10-22-2023, 04:03 AM
One of my ex-husband military brothers sent this to me.

Presidents Army
https://17sog.substack.com/p/the-presidents-army

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 04:08 AM
Another one - Presidents Guard

https://17sog.substack.com/p/the-presidents-guard

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 04:09 AM
Guardians at the gate

https://17sog.substack.com/p/guardians-at-the-gate

Kathianne
10-22-2023, 09:41 AM
Guardians at the gate

https://17sog.substack.com/p/guardians-at-the-gate

Very interesting, though saying the same as I've been saying and doing since and before I began on forums-first Yahoo! then USMB, now here.

fj1200
10-22-2023, 11:06 AM
One of my ex-husband military brothers sent this to me.

Presidents Army
https://17sog.substack.com/p/the-presidents-army

What's the takeaway here? BO was going to take out trump?

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 11:12 AM
What's the takeaway here? BO was going to take out trump?

Everyone takes away something different. Is that your takeaway?

fj1200
10-22-2023, 11:22 AM
Everyone takes away something different. Is that your takeaway?

TL:BR (Too Long; Barely Read). Not enough there there to bother with.

Actually my takeaway involved too little patience to bother with tortured logic.

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 12:02 PM
TL:BR (Too Long; Barely Read). Not enough there there to bother with.

Actually my takeaway involved too little patience to bother with tortured logic.

Is about very distinguished members of the military and the successful missions they've undertaken over the years. You saw the scary word "Trump" in the first paragraph and arbitrarily discounted it. Which is your typical take on info.

Glad you didn't let me down fj. Especially knowing how short your attention span is. It is a long article and probably had to much info for you to process. I get it.

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 12:29 PM
Very interesting, though saying the same as I've been saying and doing since and before I began on forums-first Yahoo! then USMB, now here.

You've been talking about the secret army?

Kathianne
10-22-2023, 12:34 PM
You've been talking about the secret army?

Talking about involvement and local

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 12:37 PM
Talking about involvement and local

From the "We The People" army or the secret army like Extortion 17 type?

Kathianne
10-22-2023, 12:40 PM
From the "We The People" army or the secret army like Extortion 17 type?

I gave link.

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 12:47 PM
I gave link.

You did .. I missed it.

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 12:48 PM
You did .. I missed it.
OK ... or was one of my links. Thsnks.

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 12:55 PM
I gave link.

Here's another resource our community is looking into.

https://tacticalcivics.com/

Plus ... we are going to pursue being deputized in our county. Haven't got too far because our sheriff is democrat.

Going to a meeting next Saturday to meet with the candidate running against our congressman for our district. Going to ask him to get more details on that.

Kathianne
10-22-2023, 04:17 PM
OK ... or was one of my links. Thsnks.

Commenting on link you posted about interesting read

SassyLady
10-22-2023, 05:35 PM
Another good read.

https://17sog.substack.com/p/reconstitution?utm_campaign=post_embed

Republic
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Reconstitution
Prologue

THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC
AUG 13, 2022
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On January 20th, 2021 President Donald J Trump climbed aboard Air Force One and effectively left Washington D.C. to an administration that just completed the greatest crime against this country we have ever witnessed. Not willing to accept that Trump simply walked away, many theories and wild speculations have arisen in an attempt to placate the MAGA masses. The 17SOG have been in part, subscribers to some of the theories and in our quests for truth and more detailed explanation, we uncovered some incredible facts that have changed everything we thought we knew. Reconstitution is an attempt to explain who the real enemy is, how it came to be, and what steps the 45th President actually did to take down the Deep State.

Donald Trump’s strategy was to make America great again. His plan was to return power to the people. It was never about Trump maintaining some control or portion of the Presidency. The goal has always been to wrestle power away from an elite few and return it to us, the forgotten men and women of America.

Today’s ceremony, however, has very special meaning, because today we are not merely transferring power from one administration to another, or from one party to another, but we are transferring power from Washington, D.C., and giving it back to you, the people.

For too long, a small group in our nation’s capital has reaped the rewards of government, while the people have borne the cost. Washington flourished, but the people did not share in its wealth. Politicians prospered, but the jobs left and the factories closed. The establishment protected itself, but not the citizens of our country. Their victories have not been your victories. Their triumphs have not been your triumphs, and while they celebrated in our nation’s capital, there was little to celebrate for struggling families all across our land. That all changes, starting right here and right now, because this moment is your moment --- it belongs to you. It belongs to everyone gathered here today, and everyone watching, all across America. This is your day. This is your celebration, and this, the United States of America, is your country. - Donald J Trump

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/full-text-donald-trump-inauguration-speech-transcript-233907

What makes America unique on the world stage and unique in the pages of history is that for over two hundred years we have espoused the idea that people should have the power to rule themselves. While this is a central tenet to what it is to be “American”, over the course of two centuries we have seen that power wrestled away from the people and assumed by politicians in a growing centralized government. Specifically, much of the power has been centralized around agencies and unelected bureaucrats close to or within the Executive branch of government.

The 17th Special Operations Group is a small group of patriots who love our country, our military, and want to see America great again. Our research and dedication to the pursuit of truth brought us to the intersection of what we believed at the time and what the facts tell us. At the center of Reconstitution is the fact that George W. Bush is the only president to put the Executive branch into Continuity of Government and Donald Trump is the only president to take action to reconstitute the Office. More than that, Reconstitution is a history lesson, a tribute to our armed forces, and a retracing of the steps already taken by Trump and the patriots to return America to the constitutional republic our founding fathers envisioned.

As this series continues it will be important to understand the difference between the Executive Office of the President (EOP) and the Commander in Chief (CIC).

Commander in Chief

The President of the United States (POTUS) is often regarded as the “most powerful” position in the world. This is in large part because he is the Commander in Chief (CIC) of the United States Military; the largest and most powerful military in the world. The President is the supreme commander of the military as defined by the Constitution:

Commander in Chief, President as. The Constitution (Article II, section 2) specifies that “The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several states, when called into the actual Service of the United States.”

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/commander-chief-president

The role of the president as Commander in Chief has not expanded beyond this constitutional definition. The Constitution gives Congress the power to declare war. So, while the president is the CIC, he cannot unilaterally declare war.

The Constitution gives the power of declaring war solely to Congress, while the president serves as commander in chief of the U.S. military.

Congress has used its constitutional power to declare war five times in the nation’s history: the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, the Spanish-American War, World War I, and World War II. Since World War II, the United States has never actually declared war, despite our being at near-constant war since the days of the Truman administration.

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/the-president-as-commander-in-chief

This does not mean that there has not been instances where certain presidents did not try and find ways around the confines of the Constitution.

In 1947, President Harry Truman announced that the United States would assist any nation in the world that was threatened by Communism. When Communist North Korea invaded free South Korea in 1950, Truman sent U.S. troops as part of a combined United Nations force defending South Korea. Truman did not ask for a declaration of war, and described the troops’ mission as a “police action.” For the next several decades and beyond, the word “war” would begin to lose its precision. Rather, declaring war came to be seen as unnecessary or inconvenient.

The power to make war continued to shift from Congress to the president during the administrations of Presidents John F. Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, and Richard Nixon.

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/the-president-as-commander-in-chief

By calling the involvement of the U.S. Military in Korea a “police action”, President Truman was able to technically sidestep the constitutional requirement of declaring war and direct our military accordingly. This tactic of rebranding military action to something other than “war” will be used again in Vietnam. The ‘police action” in Vietnam cost the United States 58,200 service members and countless injuries and deaths for years to come. It was becoming clear that abuse of the CIC by presidents was becoming a costly overreach.

Congress responded to these events by attempting to reclaim some of the war powers it had been giving over to the president since World War II.

The Democratic Congress, in response to the peace movement led by the New Left, ordered an immediate end to the bombing raids in Cambodia, and drew up the War Powers Resolution (1973).

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/the-president-as-commander-in-chief

The War Powers Resolution Act was an attempt to rein in the abuse witnessed during the Vietnam War. Essentially, the bill required the withdrawal of troops after 60 days if war was not declared by Congress. It did not have the desired effect.

The president’s war-making power has continued to increase. No president has fully complied with the War Powers Resolution, and no Congress has declared war since World War II despite near-constant conflict.

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/the-president-as-commander-in-chief

Most recently, we have seen the President Trump’s role as CIC come under scrutiny domestically. Constitutionally, the CIC has control over militias of several states and the National Guard in certain instances. President Trump was confronted with the scope of these powers as the riots of 2020 were taking place.

The president's most important duty as commander in chief is to defend the United States, its territories and possessions and its armed forces, from attack. Domestically, this may mean using or threatening to use force to make sure that laws are faithfully executed, as George Washington did when he rode out at the head of a column of troops to put down the Whiskey Rebellion, as Andrew Jackson did in 1832 when he threatened to use force against South Carolina if it did not permit collection of the tariff, and as Abraham Lincoln did to end the secession of Southern states.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/commander-chief-president

While there was precedent set for a president to unleash the military (President Eisenhower in 1957 used a exception to Posse Comitatus to send federal troops to Little Rock Arkansas) on civilians, it would appear this was kept mostly in check until AFTER the terrorist attacks of 9/11.

If the executive’s war powers had been growing, then they began growing still further—both at home and abroad—after the September 11, 2001 attacks. The power to wage “war” against foreign nations become the power to “fight terrorism” plotted by terrorist organizations such as Al Qaeda. Not long after the attack, President George W. Bush received congressional authorization to use military force in Afghanistan. Congress passed the PATRIOT Act and Bush proposed the creation of a new cabinet department: the Department of Homeland Security. Other agencies and departments experienced growth, including the Department of Defense, the Department of Cybersecurity and Communication, the Bureau of Counterterrorism, the Transportation Safety Administration, the National Counterterrorism Center, the National Security Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and many others.

Many of these organizations have scrutinized the activities of Americans in unprecedented ways.

https://billofrightsinstitute.org/essays/the-president-as-commander-in-chief

Domestically, we will discover that emergencies, fear, and the desire for safety have been used by the Executive branch to grow the size and scope of government and slowly erode our liberties.

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." – Benjamin Franklin

This is totally by design. Wars and crises will be used to greatly expand the role of the Executive branch and destroy even the most basic of civil rights in America. This is no more evident than when we look at the Executive Office of the President (EOP).

Executive Office of the President (EOP)

There is no constitutional basis for the EOP. It was an office that was created in 1939 upon the recommendation of the Brownlow Committee.

President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1939 lobbied Congress to approve the Reorganization Act of 1939. The Act led to Reorganization Plan No. 1,[9] which created the EOP,[10] which reported directly to the president. The EOP encompassed two subunits at its outset: the White House Office (WHO) and the Bureau of the Budget, the predecessor to today's Office of Management and Budget, which had been created in 1921 and originally located in the Treasury Department. It absorbed most of the functions of the National Emergency Council. - Wikipedia

Historically, the President of the United States was the lone occupier of the Executive branch.

It was not until 1857 that Congress appropriated money ($2,500) for the hiring of one clerk. By Ulysses S. Grant's presidency (1869–1877), the staff had grown to three. By 1900, the White House staff included one "secretary to the president" (then the title of the president's chief aide), two assistant secretaries, two executive clerks, a stenographer, and seven other office personnel. – Wikipedia

The Executive branch has since grown in scope, number of staffers, and overall budget. As of 2015, there are over 1,800 positions in the EOP with a budget of over $713 million. With the exception of just a handful of executives, most of the 1,800 are appointed and not elected. Here is what the EOP is supposed to be:

The Executive Office of the President (EOP) comprises the offices and agencies[2] that support the work of the president at the center of the executive branch of the United States federal government. The EOP consists of several offices and agencies, such as the White House Office (the staff working directly for and reporting to the president, including West Wing staff and the president's closest advisers), the National Security Council, and the Office of Management and Budget. – Wikipedia

However from its inception, the EOP has been the primary tool used to expand the scope and power of the Executive branch.

From 1933 to 1939, as he greatly expanded the scope of the federal government's policies and powers in response to the Great Depression, Roosevelt relied on his "brain trust" of top advisers, who were often appointed to vacant positions in agencies and departments, from which they drew their salaries since the White House lacked statutory or budgetary authority to create new staff positions. -Wikipedia

By creating agencies and filling them with unelected officials, a form of “permanent government” is created outside the checks and balances of the judiciary and Congress.

The EOP is also referred to as a "permanent government", with many policy programs, and the people who implement them, continuing between presidential administrations. - Wikipedia

As emergencies rise and we face crisis after crisis, opportunities are created for more agencies to be formed and the power of this shadow government to increase. This permanent shadow government IS the Deep State as we know it today. It is the enemy that has been stealing our elections and the power away from the people.

Most of us have accepted these agencies and offices without questioning if they are even constitutional.

From a small cadre of three employees in Presidents Grants office to over 1,800 employees today, the power grab by the Executive branch is way beyond anything our founding fathers imagined. As we continue this series, we will be presenting several new discoveries not found anywhere else:

Continuity of Government DID NOT begin with President Trump

Our government has been in Continuity of Government (COG) since 9/11/2001

The use of persistent states of emergency to maintain COG and grant unconstitutional powers to the Executive branch

The Weapons of Reconstitution: Executive orders, the courts, and The President’s Army.

Trump’s use of game theory to restore our constitutional balance

How Trump has used executive orders, the judiciary, and the President’s Army to enact these changes

How this all restores power back to the people.

In this Reconstitution series we will be demonstrating with historical facts, not conjecture nor theories, but with documented proof of Trump’s plan to return the EOP and our government back to the Constitution (Reconstitution). There is no need to guess whether or not some Presidential Emergency Action Document (PEAD) exists or if Trump enacted some other secret actions to remain the Commander in Chief (CIC). Biden is, in fact, fully the President of the United States and fully the Commander in Chief. However, the President-King’s throne that we have all grown so accustomed to, has been removed. Biden stole an office that doesn’t want him, doesn’t need him, and is very different than what he was expecting.

In a very real sense, the power of the people was dismantled like a Deep State bowling ball, striking and splitting the perfectly aligned constitutional pins, and sending them to every corner of the bowling lane. President Trump has already begun the process of removing power from the Executive branch and reconstituting the Executive Office of the President. The news headlines we are watching today, and ever since he left office, is the resetting of constitutional pins by a masterful pinsetter, Trump and his team. The best is yet to come, but not in the way many think.

17th Special Operations Group

revelarts
10-22-2023, 07:46 PM
Sassy, that "17th Special Operations Group" just needs to forget all that jibber jabber constitutional stuff & listen to Nixon.


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fj1200
10-22-2023, 09:34 PM
Is about very distinguished members of the military and the successful missions they've undertaken over the years. You saw the scary word "Trump" in the first paragraph and arbitrarily discounted it. Which is your typical take on info.

Glad you didn't let me down fj. Especially knowing how short your attention span is. It is a long article and probably had to much info for you to process. I get it.

Think what you will. You always do. No matter the facts on the ground.

SassyLady
10-23-2023, 01:24 AM
Think what you will. You always do. No matter the facts on the ground.
You have no facts because you are a lazy researcher.

fj1200
10-23-2023, 12:32 PM
You have no facts because you are a lazy researcher.

:laugh:

You have all the "facts" because you'll believe anything.

Hey, this is fun.

SassyLady
10-23-2023, 12:56 PM
:laugh:

You have all the "facts" because you'll believe anything.

Hey, this is fun.

At least I've done the research before believing. You're just lazy. You think posting a quippy response is fact based rebuttal. So far you haven't rebutted anything in the OP.

Yawn

fj1200
10-23-2023, 02:06 PM
At least I've done the research before believing. You're just lazy. You think posting a quippy response is fact based rebuttal. So far you haven't rebutted anything in the OP.

Yawn

Research? What research did you do? The extent of your "research" was "an interesting read." My research can be summed up in "not an interesting read." There's a billion things on the internet and I would think on DP, this august institution, we've reached a higher standard of "research" and conclusion than "an interesting read."

I can barely keep up with Kathianne's postings and they're interesting and relevant with an intro as to why they might be interesting and relevant.

SassyLady
10-23-2023, 02:35 PM
Research? What research did you do? The extent of your "research" was "an interesting read." My research can be summed up in "not an interesting read." There's a billion things on the internet and I would think on DP, this august institution, we've reached a higher standard of "research" and conclusion than "an interesting read."

I can barely keep up with Kathianne's postings and they're interesting and relevant with an intro as to why they might be interesting and relevant.

Until you read it you have no idea if it's interesting or relevant. You made judgement because you don't like me or my sources because they challenge your world view. I'm OK with that. Perhaps it would be less time consuming for you to put me on ignore. That way you don't even have to take time to wrack your brain with a pithy response.

fj1200
10-23-2023, 02:39 PM
Until you read it you have no idea if it's interesting or relevant. You made judgement because you don't like me or my sources because they challenge your world view. I'm OK with that. Perhaps it would be less time consuming for you to put me on ignore. That way you don't even have to take time to wrack your brain with a pithy response.

I read it. Until neither applied. And please; don't flatter yourself. My world view gets challenged every Sunday in church and I still think their, non-religious, world view is incorrect.