Now Pelosi wants her own private jet!

[KarlMarx]

The Bush administration has agreed to provide House Speaker Nancy Pelosi with regular access to an Air Force passenger jet, but the two sides are negotiating whether she will get the big aircraft she wants and who she may take as passengers, according to congressional and administration sources.
A congressional source said that Rep. John P. Murtha, chairman of House Appropriations subcommittee on defense, which controls the Pentagon's spending, has telephoned administration officials to urge them to give the speaker what she wants.
The congressional source said Pentagon officials complained that Mr. Murtha, Pennsylvania Democrat, is accusing them of sexism for not immediately heeding her request. ...


http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070207-123706-5963r.htm

The next time I hear about the big spending habits of Republicans, I'll ask them about this....

A single jet costs several thousand dollars an HOUR to fly, millions of dollars a year to maintain (several hours of maintenance are required for each hour of flight). This means that, if the Bush Administration caves, they will have to supply two or more jets for Ms. Multitask (in case one is down for repairs)

[Mr. P]

I heard Dennis had one at his disposal. :dunno:

[darin]

The media would report it like this:

"Instead of body armor for our troops, the Bush Administration authorized luxury jumbo jets for select VIPs"

[KarlMarx]

I heard Dennis had one at his disposal. :dunno:
true, however, she wants her own dedicated private jet, like Air Force One for the president

[Hobbit]

true, however, she wants her own dedicated private jet, like Air Force One for the president

Yeah, and Cheney doesn't even get that. "Air Force 2" isn't the same plane from week to week.

[Dilloduck]

true, however, she wants her own dedicated private jet, like Air Force One for the president

She probably has promised everyone in her district membership in the mile high club ! (or wants to be a member herself)

[Abbey Marie]

She probably has promised everyone in her district membership in the mile high club ! (or wants to be a member herself)

Maybe the diaper astronaut can pilot it. She will probably need a job.

[Hagbard Celine]

Maybe the diaper astronaut can pilot it. She will probably need a job.

I tried to rep you for this but it wouldn't let me. Haha. "diaper astronaut" haha.

[Gaffer]

She probably wants it labeled Air Force 3.

[Mr. P]

Why doesn't she borrow Hillerys broom? :)

[krisy]

Why doesn't she borrow Hillerys broom? :)


Because Hillary needs it right now for the extra early campaign she's running.:p

I'm really glad the media picked up on this(could this mean they are at least somewhat useful?....nahhh) because it seems to be Republicans that are regularly accused of spending too much money. Meanwhile Nancy thinks she is Pres #2

[Gaffer]

Because Hillary needs it right now for the extra early campaign she's running.:p

I'm really glad the media picked up on this(could this mean they are at least somewhat useful?....nahhh) because it seems to be Republicans that are regularly accused of spending too much money. Meanwhile Nancy thinks she is Pres #2

She does seem to think she's running things now and can make all sorts of policy changes.

[KarlMarx]

She does seem to think she's running things now and can make all sorts of policy changes.
Of course! She is, after all, Little Miss Multitask!!!

Faster than a filibuster
Able to bend Republicans with her bare hands
Able to leap large budgets with a single bound
It's Super Pelosi!

Fighting for spin, privilege and the Socialist way!

[Ado]

No one will go on the record for this story for over a week.

Yeah....the truth.

It's smear job and all you wankers fell for it...or condone it.

What's the big deal?--tell her no. She can have what

Dennis Hastert had--end of story. NEXT!

[KarlMarx]

No one will go on the record for this story for over a week.

Yeah....the truth.

It's smear job and all you wankers fell for it...or condone it.

What's the big deal?--tell her no. She can have what

Dennis Hastert had--end of story. NEXT!
Yes, thank God for the Democrats, they are looking out for the rest of us.

I'm so grateful, I just want to pucker up and kiss Lil' Miss Pelosi on the hiney and tell her it smells like roses.

[Ado]

Yes, thank God for the Democrats, they are looking out for the rest of us.

I'm so grateful, I just want to pucker up and kiss Lil' Miss Pelosi on the hiney and tell her it smells like roses.

Good for you http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/w/thumbs.gif

[Sitarro]

I work with a major airline and also worked at an airport fueling corporate jets so I have a little experience around both of the aircraft in question. Hastert flew on Gulfstream 5s, an aircraft that almost anyone but the biggest ego maniacs would feel privelidged to fly on. It has plenty of range to fly nonstop to Japan or India from Washington D.C. and has room for up to 19 passengers. It can also cruise at Mach .87 for 5000 nautical miles! It is easily one of the very finest aircraft flying.
It's not good enough for Queen Pelosi, she wants a 757-200 series. This is a huge aircraft, twice the size of a 737! It will carry 228 passengers, has a slower cruise speed of mach.80 and a much shorter range of 3900 naut. miles. It also burns a tremendous amount of fuel to move that giant mass around. I have downloaded and uploaded these aircraft, it hold 2-300 large pieces of luggage, that might not be enough for her highness.
Why would a Democrat, the party of the little guy, snub the use of a 50,000,000 dollar super corporate jet? Could it be an ego problem?

[Gunny]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070207-123706-5963r.htm

The next time I hear about the big spending habits of Republicans, I'll ask them about this....

A single jet costs several thousand dollars an HOUR to fly, millions of dollars a year to maintain (several hours of maintenance are required for each hour of flight). This means that, if the Bush Administration caves, they will have to supply two or more jets for Ms. Multitask (in case one is down for repairs)

Forget that. These congresspersons need to LOSE some perks, not get more.

And did anyone tell Pelosi she wasn't elected Queen of the US?

[manu1959]

it runs on hot air.........

[Abbey Marie]

I work with a major airline and also worked at an airport fueling corporate jets so I have a little experience around both of the aircraft in question. Hastert flew on Gulfstream 5s, an aircraft that almost anyone but the biggest ego maniacs would feel privelidged to fly on. It has plenty of range to fly nonstop to Japan or India from Washington D.C. and has room for up to 19 passengers. It can also cruise at Mach .87 for 5000 nautical miles! It is easily one of the very finest aircraft flying.
It's not good enough for Queen Pelosi, she wants a 757-200 series. This is a huge aircraft, twice the size of a 737! It will carry 228 passengers, has a slower cruise speed of mach.80 and a much shorter range of 3900 naut. miles. It also burns a tremendous amount of fuel to move that giant mass around. I have downloaded and uploaded these aircraft, it hold 2-300 large pieces of luggage, that might not be enough for her highness.
Why would a Democrat, the party of the little guy, snub the use of a 50,000,000 dollar super corporate jet? Could it be an ego problem?

Thanks for the info, S. It really helps put it all in perspective.

[manu1959]

I work with a major airline and also worked at an airport fueling corporate jets so I have a little experience around both of the aircraft in question. Hastert flew on Gulfstream 5s, an aircraft that almost anyone but the biggest ego maniacs would feel privelidged to fly on. It has plenty of range to fly nonstop to Japan or India from Washington D.C. and has room for up to 19 passengers. It can also cruise at Mach .87 for 5000 nautical miles! It is easily one of the very finest aircraft flying.
It's not good enough for Queen Pelosi, she wants a 757-200 series. This is a huge aircraft, twice the size of a 737! It will carry 228 passengers, has a slower cruise speed of mach.80 and a much shorter range of 3900 naut. miles. It also burns a tremendous amount of fuel to move that giant mass around. I have downloaded and uploaded these aircraft, it hold 2-300 large pieces of luggage, that might not be enough for her highness.
Why would a Democrat, the party of the little guy, snub the use of a 50,000,000 dollar super corporate jet? Could it be an ego problem?

penis envy

[red states rule]

Don't bigger planes burn more fuel thus creating more emissions to warm the planet? Think we'll see the headline in the New York Times, "Speaker Pelosi, accelerating glacier meltdown"

Let her peddle a bike like the enviro wacks tell the rest of us to do

[red states rule]

I am a fair guy. When the US has a jet that runs on corn oil I will see that Ms Pelsoi gets it for her travels

[Hobbit]

Pelosi's wings have been clipped.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250848,00.html

Apparantly, not only will her jet have to refueled between between the coasts, it's subject to availability and the DoD has to approve any passengers. Well, she was quoted as saying something to the effect of not being above flying commercial. I say we hold her to it.

[trobinett]

Pelosi's wings have been clipped.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250848,00.html

Apparantly, not only will her jet have to refueled between between the coasts, it's subject to availability and the DoD has to approve any passengers. Well, she was quoted as saying something to the effect of not being above flying commercial. I say we hold her to it.

Yea, I saw that "hallway" interview, and she seemed to have a little attitude about this whole "issue".

Said all she wanted was what the former speaker had, seems to be backing down just a tad.

Welcome to the rarefied world of the political elite.:cheers2:

[Ado]

White House defends Pelosi plane request

By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer
51 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - The White House on Thursday defended House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record) against Republican criticism that her desire to fly in an Air Force transport plane is an extravagance.

"This is a silly story and I think it's been unfair to the speaker," White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

Some Republicans are taking issue with the size of the plane Pelosi has requested. Pelosi, a Democrat, asked for access to a C-32, a military version of the Boeing 757-200, that could fly to her hometown of San Francisco without refueling.

"It's not a question of size, it's a question of distance," Pelosi said Wednesday.
"We want an aircraft that can reach California."

The Pentagon this week informed Pelosi's staff that she would be provided with a plane but that its size would be based on availability and that it could not guarantee nonstop service.

After the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Pentagon agreed to provide the House speaker, who is second in the line of presidential succession, with a military plane for added security during trips back home.

Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, an Illinois Republican, flew in a small commuter-sized Air Force jet.

Rep. Adam Putnam (news, bio, voting record) of Florida, the No. 3 Republican leader, called Pelosi's desire for a large transport plane "an extravagance of power that the taxpayers won't swallow."

"It's important we see what the specific request was," Putnam said.

But Snow on Thursday said the negotiations over Pelosi's transport have been conducted solely by the House sergeant-at-arms and the Pentagon, with no direct involvement by the speaker or her office — or the White House.

The guidelines provided by the Pentagon say Pelosi could be accompanied by family members, provided they pay the government coach fare. The plane could not be used for travel to political events. Members of Congress could accompany her on the plane if the travel is cleared by the House ethics committee.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070208/ap_on_go_co/pelosi_plane

[Sitarro]

I looked at the specs on the U.S. Air Force C-20 and it is actually a Gulfstream 3 or 4. The Nautical mile range on that model is 3,700 miles. If fighting a head wind in the winter going west they would probably need to stop for fuel. What is truely a joke is the fact that Pelosi is claiming it's about security. How many bases between D.C. and San Francisco are there. Wouldn't that be a secure enough refueling spot if needed? If it is actually a need for human range extending we now know that even astronauts wear diapers so shouldn't Pelosi use that option?

The Air Force does have the C-37 which is the Gulfstream 5 and has a longer range of 6,500 nautical miles, that will probably be what she will get.

Here is a picture of the C-20.

[KarlMarx]

Why is Bush bending over for Pelosi? Does she have a dog collar on him?

[Dilloduck]

Yea, I saw that "hallway" interview, and she seemed to have a little attitude about this whole "issue".

Said all she wanted was what the former speaker had, seems to be backing down just a tad.

Welcome to the rarefied world of the political elite.:cheers2:

Actually she said that she deserved everything that had been offered to a MAN so I'm wih Manu on this one.

[Ado]

Damn Liberal Media! http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/angry2.gif

Maybe they should look into Rumsfeld's continuing use of jets

after he was kicked to the curb http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/kmmrky/smiles/bighmm.gif

[Abbey Marie]

I am a fair guy. When the US has a jet that runs on corn oil I will see that Ms Pelsoi gets it for her travels

I suppose she can get Chavez to supply her fuel.

[Gaffer]

Give her a big plane, let her take all her dem congressional friends on a trip to Calif. And let it crash into a mountain along the way. :mm:

[red states rule]

Give her a big plane, let her take all her dem congressional friends on a trip to Calif. And let it crash into a mountain along the way. :mm:

What do you have against the mountain? I would consider that pollution.

[red states rule]

Of course, Ms Pelosi is now playing the victim card. She whines how since she has been a critic of the war, the Pentagon is now getting even

I thought Pelosi was a strong women. My, how libs fold like a cheap suit when they are held accountable

[manu1959]

all yall are aware that the white house requires her to fly on a private jet?

all yall are aware that more fuel is required to get from dc to ca than to ill?

more fuel + longer flight requires bigger plane?

[red states rule]

Pelosi refuses to use the jet fromer Speaker Hassert used. She wants a bigger one. It holds about 40 people, has a shower, and other comforts

It seems Nancy's arrogrance has oozed to the surface

[manu1959]

Pelosi refuses to use the jet fromer Speaker Hassert used. She wants a bigger one. It holds about 40 people, has a shower, and other comforts

It seems Nancy's arrogrance has oozed to the surface


hasserts jet only had to go to illinois nonstop....nancy's has to go to Ca

[red states rule]

hasserts jet only had to go to illinois nonstop....nancy's has to go to Ca

Oh, Pelosi is to good to have to stop and refuel?

Or could it be Pelosi wants a Flying Lincoln bedroom to pay back contributors?

Knowing the ego of this twit she would call it "Pelosi One"

I remember how the liberal media and Dems savaged Newt when he said he should not have to sit in the back of Air Firce One while Clinton was Pres

[Dilloduck]

Oh, Pelosi is to good to have to stop and refuel?

Or could it be Pelosi wants a Flying Lincoln bedroom to pay back contributors?

Knowing the ego of this twit she would call it "Pelosi One"

I remember how the liberal media and Dems savaged Newt when he said he should not have to sit in the back of Air Firce One while Clinton was Pres

It's her equal rights for women gig--In her hallway interview he made it very clear that she should be offered the same OPPORTUNITES as a MAN in that position. Listen to that interview and tell me the whole thing isn't about gender.

[red states rule]

It's her equal rights for women gig--In her hallway interview he made it very clear that she should be offered the same OPPORTUNITES as a MAN in that position. Listen to that interview and tell me the whole thing isn't about gender.

Libs always have to play the victim card

Here I thought libs were saying what a STRONG women Pelosi is

Or do they mean she does not use deodorant?

[Gaffer]

It's her equal rights for women gig--In her hallway interview he made it very clear that she should be offered the same OPPORTUNITES as a MAN in that position. Listen to that interview and tell me the whole thing isn't about gender.

Has nothing whatsoever to do with gender. has everything to do with her being a silly lib.

[Dilloduck]

Libs always have to play the victim card

Here I thought libs were saying what a STRONG women Pelosi is

Or do they mean she does not use deodorant?

She's a woman with enormous power and intends to flaunt it to the delight of many. A small step for women-A giant leap for femi-nazis.

[manu1959]

Oh, Pelosi is to good to have to stop and refuel?

Or could it be Pelosi wants a Flying Lincoln bedroom to pay back contributors?

Knowing the ego of this twit she would call it "Pelosi One"

I remember how the liberal media and Dems savaged Newt when he said he should not have to sit in the back of Air Firce One while Clinton was Pres

hassert didn't have to why should she?

[red states rule]

hassert didn't have to why should she?

I love the way you libs look out for working people and taxes they pay for your lifestyles

Keep showing your arrogrance and 08 will be a cakewalk for republicans

[stephanie]

She should stick with the same plane Hastert used...

No ifs, ands, or big butts...:dev3:

[Hobbit]

The plane they originally offered her could get her to Tokyo on one tank. It just couldn't hold the 75+ people she wanted to drag along.

[manu1959]

I love the way you libs look out for working people and taxes they pay for your lifestyles

Keep showing your arrogrance and 08 will be a cakewalk for republicans

you belive i am a lib? you have not been paying attention.....do you believe what type of plane the speaker of the house flys in is of any signifigance in the scheme of things....airforce 1 and 2 are a bigger waste....she is third in line, she should have a big plane air force 3 if you will....bithing about this makes all yall look petty and childish....focus on things that matter

[manu1959]

The plane they originally offered her could get her to Tokyo on one tank. It just couldn't hold the 75+ people she wanted to drag along.

i missed that...got a link?

[stephanie]

i missed that...got a link?

Hobbit is right..The only difference is the smaller plane only carries so many PEOPLE...

From what I've heard, Hastert used this airplane, 41 times....
She hasen't even been in office six wks....

[Hobbit]

i missed that...got a link?

The C-31 Hastert flew has a range of 2300 miles, just shy of San Fran. However, there are slightly larger versions in the Air Force which have larger fuel tanks, and nothing more. The one she wants is a frickin' 757, so she can take her entire staff. The Gulfstream costs $9000/hour. The 757 costs $22,000/hour and has a stateroom, bedroom, shower, game room, comm center, 50 seats min/111 max. All in all, it's a difference of $300,000 per one way trip. The 757 is also the LARGEST plane in the fleet capable of the trip.

I don't have a link right now, as I heard it on the radio.

As far as refueling, let's assume that the 757 is the ONLY way to get across the country non-stop. There's 8 top security Air Force bases along the way. If they're secure enough for stealth bombers, why not the Speaker of the House? Is it really worth $300,000 a pop to save Pelosi a little refueling time? If so, why not do a mid-air refueling? It's cheaper.

Edit: In a post 9/11 world, I have no problem giving the Speaker of the House a private jet. She's second in line for the presidency and needs the security.

[stephanie]

Hitlery and Bella Pellosi air travel.....FREE OF CHARGE..







http://pdhomes.net/news/jaykay/witch_broom.jpg

:wink2:

[red states rule]

you belive i am a lib? you have not been paying attention.....do you believe what type of plane the speaker of the house flys in is of any signifigance in the scheme of things....airforce 1 and 2 are a bigger waste....she is third in line, she should have a big plane air force 3 if you will....bithing about this makes all yall look petty and childish....focus on things that matter

We are. Liberal arrorgrance and hypocrisy. You see to a lib like Pelosi, she is to good to have to stop and refeul the jet. She really does not want to have to refuel in "fly over conutry" (i.e. the red states)

Beside, a bigger plane will allow her to have more contributers writing her checks during the flight

[neener]

Do you repubs ever get tired of chasing silly stories all day?

Pelosi wants to fly nonstop, she said that if the Pentagon provided plane won't do it, she'll continue to use commercial airlines, as she has since first elected.

It's the security, not the "outrageous" demands of a liberal.

Try to check your facts.

I hear Tony Snow has them all ready for you today.

[Ado]

The plane they originally offered her could get her to Tokyo on one tank. It just couldn't hold the 75+ people she wanted to drag along.


But she's willing to fly commercial and take 75 people?

Some things just don't add up.

[Ado]

Hobbit is right..The only difference is the smaller plane only carries so many PEOPLE...

From what I've heard, Hastert used this airplane, 41 times....
She hasen't even been in office six wks....

The nerve of some people, I swear! :boohoo:

[Ado]

We are. Liberal arrorgrance and hypocrisy. You see to a lib like Pelosi, she is to good to have to stop and refeul the jet. She really does not want to have to refuel in "fly over conutry" (i.e. the red states)

Beside, a bigger plane will allow her to have more contributers writing her checks during the flight

Refueling wastes time--I like non-stop too.

Anyone who wants to fly can fly non-stop.

She's being lambasted because she has a preference.

My god, nail her to a cross and be done with it. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/0/crucified.gif

[Sitarro]

Refueling wastes time--I like non-stop too.

She is a waste of time..... flying to San Francisco is a waste of time. A fuel stop at an airbase on the way would easily be made up for by cranking up the speed a little. The Gulfstream at higher speed is much more economical than a 757 at economy speed. Even if a fuel stop was needed it would be quicker in the C-20. If she had a clue about the difference in models of the same aircraft she would know that the C-37 is a Gulfstream 5 and has a range of 6,500 miles and uses a fraction of the resources of the enormous C-32(757).


Anyone who wants to fly can fly non-stop.

Yes, if they are Speaker of the House they can either fly on a plane that is offered to them for free by the public or buy a ticket from an airline.


She's being lambasted because she has a preference.

No, she is being lambasted because she is a hypocritical, elitist snob and an idiot. Just like Algore flying back and forth across the country to preach to idiots about something he obviously doesn't understand when a film does the same thing wthout the fossil fuel use or the pollution.

[neener]

Yes, if they are Speaker of the House they can either fly on a plane that is offered to them for free by the public or buy a ticket from an airline.



And she said she would fly commercial. So why are you all still screaming??

:tinfoil:

[red states rule]

Stephanopoulos: Pelosi May Create Special Global Warming Committee
This morning on ABC’s This Week, George Stephanopoulos reported that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) “is considering setting up a special committee in the House to deal with climate change and global warming.”

Also on ABC, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) called climate change “the most serious environmental problem” we face, and said “we’ve got to get action on it” and “not wait until everybody around the world is going to do it.”




Now she wants to have a bigger jet? Nothing like liberal arrogrance and double talk

[stephanie]

Stephanopoulos: Pelosi May Create Special Global Warming Committee
This morning on ABC’s This Week, George Stephanopoulos reported that Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) “is considering setting up a special committee in the House to deal with climate change and global warming.”

Also on ABC, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) called climate change “the most serious environmental problem” we face, and said “we’ve got to get action on it” and “not wait until everybody around the world is going to do it.”




Now she wants to have a bigger jet? Nothing like liberal arrogrance and double talk


But, don't you know...
Since she's a woman...AND the FIRST WOMAN SPEAKER...

We're not suppose to criticize her....:boobies:

Oh, and another reason.....She's a Democrat....:cheers2:

[red states rule]

But, don't you know...
Since she's a woman...AND the FIRST WOMAN SPEAKER...

We're not suppose to criticize her....:boobies:

Oh, and another reason.....She's a Democrat....:cheers2:

First libs say Conservatives are afraid of a strong women.

I say she is nothing more then a liberal bimbo with a superiority complex

[Ado]

But, don't you know...
Since she's a woman...AND the FIRST WOMAN SPEAKER...

We're not suppose to criticize her....:boobies:

Oh, and another reason.....She's a Democrat....:cheers2:


No one said you can't criticize women--but it is hard
to believe your claims, when even the White House
says it is a silly story.

You're just bitching--there is a difference, although I
see there is no way you'd recognize that.

[Ado]

First libs say Conservatives are afraid of a strong women.

I say she is nothing more then a liberal bimbo with a superiority complex

What a shocker--she should be home with bare
feet and babies, her place is in the house,
not the senate, blah blah blah

Soon you'll be into tampon and PMS jokes.

[Ado]

She is a waste of time..... flying to San Francisco is a waste of time. A fuel stop at an airbase on the way would easily be made up for by cranking up the speed a little. The Gulfstream at higher speed is much more economical than a 757 at economy speed. Even if a fuel stop was needed it would be quicker in the C-20. If she had a clue about the difference in models of the same aircraft she would know that the C-37 is a Gulfstream 5 and has a range of 6,500 miles and uses a fraction of the resources of the enormous C-32(757).



Yes, if they are Speaker of the House they can either fly on a plane that is offered to them for free by the public or buy a ticket from an airline.



No, she is being lambasted because she is a hypocritical, elitist snob and an idiot. Just like Algore flying back and forth across the country to preach to idiots about something he obviously doesn't understand when a film does the same thing wthout the fossil fuel use or the pollution.


Well tough shit on your theories--California is part of the US.

For fuck sakes grow up.

[stephanie]

No one said you can't criticize women--but it is hard
to believe your claims, when even the White House
says it is a silly story.

You're just bitching--there is a difference, although I
see there is no way you'd recognize that.

I like to bitch...
What's your excuse??:wink2:

[Dilloduck]

What a shocker--she should be home with bare
feet and babies, her place is in the house,
not the senate, blah blah blah

Soon you'll be into tampon and PMS jokes.

Oh lighten up----the best thing about politicians is they make good targets for jokes. Why do you think Pelosi should be an exception ?

[stephanie]

Oh lighten up----the best thing about politicians is they make good targets for jokes. Why do you think Pelosi should be an exception ?

Me thinks someone has a crush...:laugh2:

[Ado]

I like to bitch...
What's your excuse??:wink2:

If you want to look stupid with the stupid pack
that's fine with me.

[stephanie]

If you want to look stupid with the stupid pack
that's fine with me.
:lol:
Whatever......Duuuudddde

If you don't like what people are saying, don't read it...
Sounds like a fine solution for you...:uhoh:

[Dilloduck]

If you want to look stupid with the stupid pack
that's fine with me.

and you're looking real brilliant here defending a politician who wants a big plane ?

[Abbey Marie]

and you're looking real brilliant here defending a politician who wants a big plane ?

But Dillo, didn't you hear? She needs it to see her family.

[Dilloduck]

But Dillo, didn't you hear? She needs it to see her family.

ya ya---I bet her family is secretly lobbyin against her.-----HEY--quit bashin that poor lady politician, sister 'shroom !!!!

[Sitarro]

And she said she would fly commercial. So why are you all still screaming??

:tinfoil:

That was her variation of the classic and childish.....If I can't have my way I'm gonna take my ball and go home!

She knows that she will not be allowed to disrupt commercial airlines by bringing what I'm sure is an entourage befitting an ego of a Queen, so she will lease the aircraft her limited knowledge tells her is best(she will look for the biggest with the right color paint to match her favorite wardrobe color) and then bill the citizens of our country(people like her never actually pay for anything). She will no doubt confer with fellow horse's ass elitist(who also just happens to have a horse face) John"I went to Vietnam"Kerry-Heinz and find out how his campaign 757 was outfitted and where he got it. She will then spend months with her interior and fashion designers creating a show piece interior( in preperation to have it on the cover of Vanity Fair) to match the perfect exterior paint scheme and make it as opulent as it needs to be to match her ego, money no object.

The fact of the matter is....she is not very intelligent, she equates size with an aircraft's ability to fly across the country nonstop, she no doubt also equates the safety of an aircraft by it's size not realizing that something that weighs 255,000 pounds becomes a rock when it loses propulsion. She also doesn't care how much an hour the taxpayers have to pay for her to be able to impress her elitist "friends". Anyone that would call a Gulfsream 5 a "little plane" definitely is an imbecile and shouldn't have the ability to spend anyone elses money....period.

[Abbey Marie]

ya ya---I bet her family is secretly lobbyin against her.-----HEY--quit bashin that poor lady politician, sister 'shroom !!!!


I'm scared!

http://homepage.mac.com/rlmorel/.Public/pelosi.jpg

[stephanie]

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/CNANCY.jpg

:laugh2:

[Sitarro]

Well tough shit on your theories--California is part of the US.

For fuck sakes grow up.

Theories? Logic Adodo, something people on your side of the political spectrum have no idea about....that is why you don't recognize it when you see it. That is why leftists make such terrible leaders, no logical thought.....actually very little intelligent thought if any.:blowup:

[Ado]

Oh lighten up----the best thing about politicians is they make good targets for jokes. Why do you think Pelosi should be an exception ?

I haven't seen any jokes--just stupid rantings about airplane models.

Hee man military plane research--specs from my pecs http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/c0/rotlaugh.gif

[Ado]

Theories? Logic Adodo, something people on your side of the political spectrum have no idea about....that is why you don't recognize it when you see it. That is why leftists make such terrible leaders, no logical thought.....actually very little intelligent thought if any.:blowup:

yes dear http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/b/smiley2k.gif thanks for the light

[Ado]

and you're looking real brilliant here defending a politician who wants a big plane ?

tired tired tired and guys guys look pretty stupid supporting a
trillion dollar war from no intelligence,

BUT WHO'S COUNTING??! :laugh2:

[Ado]

:lol:
Whatever......Duuuudddde

If you don't like what people are saying, don't read it...
Sounds like a fine solution for you...:uhoh:


Yah but there's free speech--you gotta read first http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/1/rolls.gif

[Ado]

But Dillo, didn't you hear? She needs it to see her family.

Aren't you guys The Party of Family Values--what the hell? :uhoh:

Now you are picking on a grandma!? Jesus what is this country

becoming? We BETTER get a Democrat elected quick.

I don't understand you people! You've run out of people to hate! :D

[Dilloduck]

tired tired tired and guys guys look pretty stupid supporting a
trillion dollar war from no intelligence,

BUT WHO'S COUNTING??! :laugh2:

and this is coming from the person who is tired of hate? I know you're not stupid enough to not recognize political hatred coming from BOTH sides so there's only one thing left. You think that YOUR hate is JUSTIFIED. Go ahead--say it !

[Abbey Marie]

Aren't you guys The Party of Family Values--what the hell? :uhoh:

Now you are picking on a grandma!? Jesus what is this country

becoming? We BETTER get a Democrat elected quick.

I don't understand you people! You've run out of people to hate! :D

Ah, you have fallen right into her p.r. trap. Having all the grand-kiddies around her for her swearing-in, and making a big show about it. Then claiming she "needs a 757" so she can "see her family".

Yes, we are for family values; not phony photo-op family values, and not using your family as an excuse to fly a bigger plane than the other guys.

[Sitarro]

I haven't seen any jokes--just stupid rantings about airplane models.

Hee man military plane research--specs from my pecs

At least I'm giving facts unlike your symbolic Speaker that wouldn't know the truth if it fell on her head. She can't even look in the mirror and see the truth.
It is a much better idea to make costly decisions on feelings right?

[Ado]

and this is coming from the person who is tired of hate? I know you're not stupid enough to not recognize political hatred coming from BOTH sides so there's only one thing left. You think that YOUR hate is JUSTIFIED. Go ahead--say it !

I have very little hate, but buttloads of anger.

[Ado]

Ah, you have fallen right into her p.r. trap. Having all the grand-kiddies around her for her swearing-in, and making a big show about it. Then claiming she "needs a 757" so she can "see her family".

Yes, we are for family values; not phony photo-op family values, and not using your family as an excuse to fly a bigger plane than the other guys.

So where did she get all those rugrats--Rent-a-Kid?
She's Italian for goddsakes. I wasn't sucked in by PR.
People do have offspring. People do share their success
with their families. Why does this need explaining?

Washington is in the East/California in the West--seems
pretty clear. She has to pay for family members, so who gives
a rat's ass, how many rugrats go onboard?

[Dilloduck]

I have very little hate, but buttloads of anger.

obviously---self-righteous indignation.

[Ado]

At least I'm giving facts unlike your symbolic Speaker that wouldn't know the truth if it fell on her head. She can't even look in the mirror and see the truth.
It is a much better idea to make costly decisions on feelings right?

Yes...that's all we are .....feelings.
I pay my mortagage with feelings--did you know that?
Utility bills too. Grocery stores take feelings too.
That little swiper thing is a bitch though. Pinches.



Nice cat btw. Feels like a nice kitty.

[Ado]

obviously---self-righteous indignation.

I can see how that makes you feel better about you.
Obviously.

[Dilloduck]

I can see how that makes you feel better about you.
Obviously.

The whole political scene is a mess. Please don't try to claim you have the monopoly on what's right.

[Ado]

The whole political scene is a mess. Please don't try to claim you have the monopoly on what's right.

I won't say that. But I'm not going to sweat the small stuff either.



Like if GHWB hates broccoli, then fine. He likes Terri Hatcher's
ass though. I thought he was a Family Values man. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/sad.gif

But I won't make a big thread about it, and carry on about it
after he'd apologize--but I doubt he'd do that, anyway.

[Dilloduck]

I won't say that. But I'm not going to sweat the small stuff either.



Like if GHWB hates broccoli, then fine. He likes Terri Hatcher's
ass though. I thought he was a Family Values man. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/sad.gif

But I won't make a big thread about it, and carry on about it
after he'd apologize--but I doubt he'd do that, anyway.

that hyper-partisanship just won't let ya get away without a parting shot, will it?:poke:

[Ado]

that hyper-partisanship just won't let ya get away without a parting shot, will it?:poke:

Nope, doesn't look like it. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/no.gif

[stephanie]

Meet the NEW speaker......Of the House...

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/updatesidedownrealsecurity-1.jpg
Duh, Nance dear, turn it right side up, babe....


Common Nance, you maken us luuk stoopid.......

Turn the Damn thing RIGHT SIDE UP......Nannnncccc:eek:



:lmao:

[red states rule]

With Queen Nancy I, it is not size that matters - it is endurance as she does the US taxpayer

[red states rule]

Meet the NEW speaker......Of the House...

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m268/alaskamomma/updatesidedownrealsecurity-1.jpg
Duh, Nance dear, turn it right side up, babe....


Common Nance, you maken us luuk stoopid.......

Turn the Damn thing RIGHT SIDE UP......Nannnncccc:eek:



:lmao:

Steph, somehow this picture will NEVER be seen on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, or MSNBC

[Dilloduck]

Nope, doesn't look like it. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/^/aiw/no.gif

Which makes you exactly like conservatives who can only spout off negatives about the liberals. Be original and stop playing that boring, silly game.

[red states rule]

Which makes you exactly like conservatives who can only spout off negatives about the liberals. Be original and stop playing that boring, silly game.

It seems if you want cheap shots, and hate filled one liners look no further then the left

If you are a liberal, you can say and do anything about conservatives, and get a pass

John "Pretty Boy" Edwards fireds the anti Catholic staff members - then rehired them one day later. Of course the Pretty Boy gets a pass from the left and the liberal media

[Dilloduck]

It seems if you want cheap shots, and hate filled one liners look no further then the left

If you are a liberal, you can say and do anything about conservatives, and get a pass

John "Pretty Boy" Edwards fireds the anti Catholic staff members - then rehired them one day later. Of course the Pretty Boy gets a pass from the left and the liberal media


Don't you get ever get tired of the "trash a liberal" routine ?

[red states rule]

Don't you get ever get tired of the "trash a liberal" routine ?

When they get tired with "trash the conservative" routine

Libs are the ones with the hate and rage - not conservatives

On this board look at Jilly. Hell how she became a mod I will never know.

Making her a mod is like giving Willie Sutton keys to the bank

[Ado]

When you people are represented by Rush Limbaugh
and Anne Coulter, I don't see how you can say
Liberals are full of hate. No wonder no one can take
what you say seriously with that kind of delusion.
You don't even know the difference between anger
directed toward you and your hatred for everyone
unlike you. Too bad people just don't allow you to operate
in your oppressive superiority unchecked.

As far as Nancy with the paper, this perfectly
illustrates why the Right has hardly any sense of humor.

That's why Dennis Miller HAD a career when he was left.
But go ahead and laugh, it's the reason Jon Stewart
and Steven Colbert can make a living off your lame asses.

Now THAT's funny. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/c0/haha.gif

[red states rule]

When you people are represented by Rush Limbaugh
and Anne Coulter, I don't see how you can say
Liberals are full of hate. No wonder no one can take
what you say seriously with that kind of delusion.
You don't even know the difference between anger
directed toward you and your hatred for everyone
unlike you. Too bad people just don't allow you to operate
in your oppressive superiority unchecked.

As far as Nancy with the paper, this perfectly
illustrates why the Right has hardly any sense of humor.

That's why Dennis Miller HAD a career when he was left.
But go ahead and laugh, it's the reason Jon Stewart
and Steven Colbert can make a living off your lame asses.

Now THAT's funny. http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/c0/haha.gif

Lets see, Dems have a long history of racist remarks. even some hoping someone they disagree with dies

Rush has never wished for the death of a Dem. While Ann make go over the top on occassion, libs are in a constant state of mouth frothing hysteria

[Ado]

Lets see, Dems have a long history of racist remarks. even some hoping someone they disagree with dies

Rush has never wished for the death of a Dem. While Ann make go over the top on occassion, libs are in a constant state of mouth frothing hysteria

I can admit that the left isn't perfect.
There is racism on both sides, but the left
doesn't make a hobby of repressing people,
like preventing them from voting.
People do say questionable things at time.

How you can call us hateful when Limbaugh makes
fun of Parkinson's people and Coulter attacks
widows, is beyond reason.

It's the reason you guys lost the mid-term
and you still don't get it; people are sick
of your hate and they will take the imperfect Dems
and uncertainty, instead of the right's continued
attempts to divide people. Independents will
get more support too. You do not own
this country, you share it, and the more you
push people down, the more you WILL FAIL.

[red states rule]

I can admit that the left isn't perfect.
There is racism on both sides, but the left
doesn't make a hobby of repressing people,
like preventing them from voting.
People do say questionable things at time.

How you can call us hateful when Limbaugh makes
fun of Parkinson's people and Coulter attacks
widows, is beyond reason.

It's the reason you guys lost the mid-term
and you still don't get it; people are sick
of your hate and they will take the imperfect Dems
and uncertainty, instead of the right's continued
attempts to divide people. Independents will
get more support too. You do not own
this country, you share it, and the more you
push people down, the more you WILL FAIL.

It is a fact Mr Fox did not take his meds, and wanted to look sicker then he really is. Ann made a valid point about the Jersy Girls

Libs love to use these human shields, where they can say and do anything; but nobody can call them on it

The Jersey Girls made ads for Kerry and were on the liberal talks shows constantly - but conservatives were not to respond?

If anyone is dividing it is the left. If you do not march in lockstep you are savaged

[Ado]

It is a fact Mr Fox did not take his meds, and wanted to look sicker then he really is. Ann made a valid point about the Jersy Girls

Libs love to use these human shields, where they can say and do anything; but nobody can call them on it

The Jersey Girls made ads for Kerry and were on the liberal talks shows constantly - but conservatives were not to respond?

If anyone is dividing it is the left. If you do not march in lockstep you are savaged

I am seriously NOT going to argue this.
I have absolutely NO ROOM for this kind
of disrepect. People who are this low
do not deserve my time. You can
wallow in your own filth.

[red states rule]

I am seriously NOT going to argue this.
I have absolutely NO ROOM for this kind
of disrepect. People who are this low
do not deserve my time. You can
wallow in your own filth.

Translation" Ado has no facts, so therefore he wil cut and run. Rush and Ann are perfect examples of how libs cannot compete with conservatives

Also Ado's inability to offer counter arguments against RSR's posts is another

[Abbey Marie]

I am seriously NOT going to argue this.
I have absolutely NO ROOM for this kind
of disrepect. People who are this low
do not deserve my time. You can
wallow in your own filth.

You are not making a very good case for the left being kinder and gentler, when you tell a poster to wallow in his own filth.

[red states rule]

You are not making a very good case fo the left being kinder and gentler, when you tell a poster to wallow in their own filth.

Don't you know liberal love and tolerance when you see/read it?

[Hobbit]

Besides, it's true. I'm all for showing compassion to victims, but when those victims insert themselves into the political arena, they open themselves up to criticism. Cindy Sheehan and the Jersey Girls turned their loved ones' deaths into circus sideshows and political campaign tours. There's no criticism I can give which will dishonor the deaths of their family members more than what they've already done.

And Michael J. Fox deserved what he got. The bill he advertised was a cloning bill, not a stem cell bill, and he failed to support Republican governors in other states who supported stem cells, even though he campaigned for every Democrat governor who supported stem cells. And yes, he did go off one of his meds so he would look worse for the camera, and, just like Rush, I don't see anything wrong with that. It's hard to get sympathy for your disease if you look fine.

[Ado]

You are not making a very good case for the left being kinder and gentler, when you tell a poster to wallow in his own filth.

It comes to light that the left has to lower itself
to fend off parasites that can't respect all citizens
equally. There is a difference in being angry at
discriminators, & fighting off the people that
practice it, than in hating people in large groups,
such as you do. But since you people bow down to the
likes of Ann Coulter, who does not think anyone
knows the difference between sedition and slander,
what can we expect?

If you're expecting me to turn the other cheek,
so you all can run roughshod over the world,

fuggettaboudit.

[stephanie]

It comes to light that the left has to lower itself
to fend off parasites that can't respect all citizens
equally. There is a difference in being angry at
discriminators, & fighting off the people that
practice it, than in hating people in large groups,
such as you do. But since you people bow down to the
likes of Ann Coulter, who does not think anyone
knows the difference between sedition and slander,
what can we expect?

If you're expecting me to turn the other cheek,
so you all can run roughshod over the world,

fuggetaboudit.

Who gives a rats ass...
Do what ya gotta do.

Sheeesh
Elitist snob..

:lmao:

[Abbey Marie]

...than in hating people in large groups,
such as you do.
...

I do?

[Gaffer]

It comes to light that the left has to lower itself
to fend off parasites that can't respect all citizens
equally. There is a difference in being angry at
discriminators, & fighting off the people that
practice it, than in hating people in large groups,
such as you do. But since you people bow down to the
likes of Ann Coulter, who does not think anyone
knows the difference between sedition and slander,
what can we expect?

If you're expecting me to turn the other cheek,
so you all can run roughshod over the world,

fuggettaboudit.

May your shit come to life and kiss you on the face.

[Ado]

May your shit come to life and kiss you on the face.

and you yours! huzzah!

[Ado]

I do?

Don't you guys have a list?

gays
blacks
people who are ill that do commercials
widows that question GWB
non-Christians
most minorities
people who want pro-choice
the liberal media

I'm sure there are more, but I'm not familiar
with the club's rules.

[stephanie]

Don't you guys have a list?

gays
blacks
people who are ill that do commercials
widows that question GWB
non-Christians
most minorities
people who want pro-choice
the liberal media

I'm sure there are more, but I'm not familiar
with the club's rules.

No...
that is YOUR list...
Take a look at it........

Pretty disgusting isn't it????

When you have to play on the sympathy of a person, instead of being honest.............That's the real shame

You are a person who feels they can SHAME a Person into falling for your Bullshit....

[Ado]

No...
that is YOUR list...
Take a look at it........

Pretty disgusting isn't it????

When you have to play on the sympathy of a person, instead of being honest.............That's the real shame

You are a person who feels they can SHAME a Person into falling for your Bullshit....

Well I know that fear & lies works much better to make people
do what you want them to, :tank:

but I'm not made of that cloth.

So it's MY list??--ha that's funny. It's from observing the Right.
I don't hate those people--but thanks for playing.

[stephanie]

Well I know that fear & lies works much better to make people
do what you want them to, :tank:

but I'm not made of that cloth.

So it's MY list??--ha that's funny. It's from observing the Right.
I don't hate those people--but thanks for playing.

This is what abado wrote...Don't you guys have a list?

gays
blacks
people who are ill that do commercials
widows that question GWB
non-Christians
most minorities
people who want pro-choice
the liberal media

I'm sure there are more, but I'm not familiar
with the club's rules.






You can accuse everybody of being a racist and a bigot...
You my dear, are the only racist and bigot I see on this board...

What a shame.....For you..

[red states rule]

Libs bellowed how Pelosi (like Shrillery) is such a strong women - now the twit is playing the victim card


"I am happy to ride commercial coast to coast," Pelosi said, sounding not very happy as she went on to suggest that she was being denied the same privileges provided her predecessor.

"I'm not saying that I am being discriminated against because I am a woman," she said. "I'm just saying as the first woman speaker, I have no intention of having less respect for the office I hold than all of the other speakers that have come before me."

She sniped at Republicans who have spent several days accusing her of excess, saying they "have nothing to say to the American people about the war, the economy, global warming and the rest. So they have this game they're playing."

She then suggested the Defense Department had deliberately mischaracterized her request for clarification of the rules on the use of military jets as a request for a big plane.

"Why are they feeding the flames?" Pelosi asked.

She offered an answer: payback for her vocal criticism that former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld mishandled the Iraq war.

On the House floor, Republicans took a bill about alternative fuel and turned it into a debate on Pelosi's transportation arrangements, by introducing an amendment that included the word "aircraft." That was enough to provide conservative members an opportunity to characterize her as the Leona Helmsley of Capitol Hill.



Now, it is another right wing conspiracy. Hey Pelosi, if you would check your huge ego at the door this never would have happened. Take Shrillery's brrom and save the taxpayers some money.

I thought these huge jets were causing "global warming". I am willing to give Pelosi a bike to use to go back to SF. This is the mode of transportation libs tell us to use
__________________

[red states rule]

Pelosi One encounters turbulence
By Dale McFeatters
Sunday, February 11, 2007

New House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is nothing if not combative.

Even as she was being elected speaker, she unsuccessfully tried to oust her No. 2, the current House Democratic leader, Steny Hoyer, in favor of her own candidate. She forced her fellow Californian, Jane Harman, off the House Intelligence Committee, where Harman was in line to become chairman. Then she got into a fight with the powerful and senior-most House Democrat, John Dingell, by trying to carve out a chunk of turf from his Energy and Commerce Committee.

These fights could perhaps be excused as necessary for Pelosi to exert control over her unruly charges and, as one of her predecessors as speaker, Tip O’Neill, once said, politics ain’t beanbag.

But now Pelosi has picked a fight that can only embarrass her and gladden the hearts of House Republicans.

She is demanding - and, given her style, “demand” is the correct verb - that the Pentagon supply her with an airliner-size jet, the military version of a Boeing 757, to fly her to and from her San Francisco district. Gleeful Republican critics are calling it “Pelosi One.”

For security reasons, the Pentagon provides the speaker, the third in line to the presidency, secure transportation to and from the home district. It did so for the former speaker, Republican Dennis Hastert.

But the Pentagon, as with Hastert, is offering commuter jets with space for no more than 10 passengers. Republicans charge that Pelosi wants the larger aircraft so she can load it up with family members and political donors, but the speaker’s office says it’s a matter of security because a smaller jet has to stop to refuel en route.

One Republican-allied group weighed in, decrying the “42 leather business-class seats, a fully enclosed stateroom for Nancy Pelosi, stewards who serve meals and tend an open bar, and other such luxuries aboard.”

Maybe that’s a little overwrought, but Pelosi should know from what happened to the House Republicans last November that voters resent what they saw as the GOP’s overweening sense of entitlement and privilege. Indeed, one of her first acts as speaker was to push through a ban on the cherished perk of lawmakers accepting rides on corporate jets.

Fly the commuter jet, Madame Speaker, and just be glad that you don’t have to stand in long lines, endure long delays and get crammed in coach like, well, like the voters.
http://news.bostonherald.com/editori...2247&srvc=home