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Pale Rider
10-29-2007, 04:06 AM
From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
Date: Monday 29oct07 3 a.m. EDT


Let's get Heath Shuler's new Democratic enforcement bill to a vote in the U.S. House

DEAR OPPONENTS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ....

.... AND SUPPORTERS OF ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT & SELF-DEPORTATION,

Hard on the heels of your tremendous defeat of the DREAM Act amnesty in the Senate last week, we have our best chance yet in this Democratic-controlled Congress for improving enforcement against illegal immigration.

(Some email services failed to deliver my analysis of our amnesty victory, and many of your computer's blocked the analysis from getting into your in-box, we are learning. You can read the analysis at: http://numbersusa.com/actionalerts)

North Carolina Democratic Representative Heath Shuler will soon be introducing a great immigration enforcement bill:

The SAVE ACT (Secure America with Verification and Enforcement)

This bill (it will have no bill number until introduced) is far more than a gesture to show that Shuler is on the side of the American workers.

Congressman Shuler appears to be deadly serious about getting this bill enacted and removing the jobs magnet for illegal immigration. He is moving the ball on this bill a whole lot better than he did as an NFL quarterback, completing passes to fellow Representatives every day as he gets their signature as co-sponsors on the floor of the House.

He is fighting for immigration rationality and the rule of law with the kind of winning confidence he showed in college when he was runnerup for the Heisman Trophy.

NumbersUSA will make its formal endorsement of this bill later today.

We believe this bill with its bi-partisan support but originating on the Democratic side of the House is just the vehicle to give us a chance to actually pass immigration legislation through a Democratic-controlled Congress that would significantly improve the lives of most Americans.


REQUIRES EVERY EMPLOYER TO USE ELECTRONIC VERIFICATION SYSTEM ON EVERY EMPLOYEE


The SAVE Act does a lot of things to protect our borders and to help with interior enforcement. (We'll provide you with a section-by-section analysis as soon as the bill is formally introduced.)

But the section that I applaud the most has to do with workplace verification. We believe that jobs are the main reason illegal aliens come here. Drying them up would seriously slow the flow of new illegal aliens. And it would start to drive perhaps as many as a million already-settled illegal aliens back home each year.

The SAVE Act would eventually require every employee in America to go through the E-Verify system. This internet system provides employers with an inexpensive, quick, and accurate way to verify that employees are not illegal aliens. The rules for use are such that no employee or employer suffers if there is a mistake in the system because there is ample time to correct errors on the employee's side and on the government's side.

The SAVE Act would ...


... require during Year 1 that all government agencies, government contractors, plus all businesses with more than 250 employees run all NEW hires through E-Verify.


... require during Year 2 that all businesses with 100 or more employees use E-Verify for new hires.


... require during Year 3 that all businesses with more than 20 employees use E-Verify for new hires.


... during Year 4 add businesses with fewer than 20 employees so that all businesses use E-Verify for new hires.


... also during Year 4 require all businessese to run all their previous hires through E-Verify.

The four-year phase-in is to give the government more room for massive expansion of its current system. It also allows the government to work out kinks before it is required for use by small businesses which often lack the personnel to easily deal with new procedures.

During the first three years, new illegal aliens and currently settled ones who lose their jobs will find fewer and fewer places where they can seek work.

But during those first three years, current illegal aliens who stayed in the same job would not be affected by the expanding use of E-Verify.

In the fourth year, however, all of those illegal workers would be run through E-Verify. If their Social Security number, name and a couple more details didn't match -- and they had no excuse -- they would lose their jobs.

NumbersUSA has always maintained that very few businesses actually want to hire illegal aliens. And we believe that of the minority of businesses that do hire illegal aliens, most do so without knowing it or do so because they feel forced to do it to keep from being run out of business by competitors who ARE hiring illegal aliens.

If we give businesses a tool they can rely on, and assure them that their competitors won't get by with hiring illegals, very few illegal aliens will get hired anywhere.

There aren't enough odd-jobs and off-the-books jobs in the underground economy to soak up the estimated 7 million illegal workers in the country. Most illegal aliens will no longer find enough work to support them and their dependents, and most of them will eventually give up their lives of illegality and go home -- ATTRITION THROUGH ENFORCEMENT & SELF-DEPORTATION.


FIRST-TIME PROVISIONS TO CATCH ILLEGAL ALIENS USING IDENTITY THEFT


All of us inside and outside government who have lauded E-Verify under its different names the last decade have acknowledged that it doesn't identify all illegal aliens.

It works with the majority of illegal aliens who are making up Social Security numbers and names when they apply for a job.

But if an illegal alien has paid the money to steal the identity of an American, or a legally present foreign national, E-Verify passes them through.

The Shuler bill is the first to address this problem and solve it.

It creates a system of detecting when the same identity is being used to hold down more jobs than are credible. In some cases, the same identity is being used by hundreds of people in hundreds of workplaces. The Shuler bill creates a notification system that roots out this fraud. We'll describe this in more detail in a later alert.


A CHANCE FOR HOUSE DEMOCRATS TO STAND ON SIDE OF AMERICAN WORKERS -- AND AGAINST OUTLAW COMPANIES HIRING ILLEGAL ALIENS


We are ecstatic to see so many Democrats considering signing on to the toughest workplace verification language ever proposed in Congress.

In the Senate, the Democrats are overwhelmingly leaders for open borders and providing unscrupulous businesses with massive flows of foreign labor. But Shuler is out to prove that Democrats in the U.S. House stand by American workers.

I'm making such a big deal about this bill because many commentators since Democrats took control of Congress last November have said it will be impossible to move an enforcement-only bill any sooner than 2009.

If we are to have any chance at all, the vehicle must be a Democratic vehicle. The SAVE Act is.

But we need your help to push your Democratic Representative (if you have one) to sign up. Wouldn't it be wonderful if you could persuade 50 Democrats to be original co-sponsors of this bill?


WILL REPUBLICANS PUT THE PUBLIC GOOD AHEAD OF PARTISAN PARTY POLITICS?


The success of this Democratic-led bill will be dependent upon Republicans massively joining it as well.

If you have a Republican Representative, will he/she be willing to sign onto a Democratic originated bill?

We need your help to push Republicans to set partisanship aside and help move this bill to a vote on the House floor.


WATCH FOR FAX ALERTS -- MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS


We'll be putting up a fax that provides what your own U.S. Representative needs to hear right now regarding the Shuler bill.

Please watch for an Alert from us that will provide a link to that fax.

You may want to go ahead and make a phone call to your Representative today and ask him/her to please co-sponsor Heath Shuler's SAVE Act to take away the job magnet for illegal immigration.

PHONE THE CAPITOL SWITCHBOARD AT: 202-224-3121

For your call to your own Representative today, just have a short, low-key conversation.

Tell him/her about how excited you are to hear an outline of the SAVE Act and how important it is for Congress to take away the jobs magnet for illegal immigration. And ask him/her to call Rep. Shuler's office to ask about signing the bill as an original co-sponsor.

The fact is that the only way Democratic Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California will allow an enforcement bill to come to a vote is if she is under pressure from scores of Democrats having signed on to co-sponsor this legislation.

We proved we are strong enough to stop amnesties repeatedly this year.

But can we prove we are strong enough to pass something that actually improves life in the United States?


OTHER ITEMS IN THE BILL


Here are some other things the SAVE Act would do:

Increases Customs and Border Patrol agents by 8,000, utilizes new technology and fencing to secure the border, and expands specialized enforcement programs, such as the “Tunnel Task Force”

Outlines provisions for recruitment of new agents and personnel through bonuses, student loan repayments, and other financial incentives

Creates a pilot program to increase aerial surveillance, satellite, and equipment sharing between the Department of Homeland Security and the Dept. of Defense to reduce costs and save taxpayer money

Increases investigative abilities of ICE by employing more agents and increasing cooperation between ICE and state and local law enforcement, including sharing personnel, information, and equipment

Creates new infrastructure for the detention, processing and removal of illegal aliens by increasing detention facility capacity, and streamlining judicial processes

Implements a targeted media campaign to inform illegal aliens of new laws and penalties, while also informing employers of penalties for hiring illegal immigrants

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bullypulpit
10-29-2007, 04:44 AM
We've already got laws on the books requiring employers to verify citizenship of their employees, and they haven't been enforced under Republican OR Democratic administrations. What makes you think this is going to be ANY different?

Illegals are to big a source of cheap, low maintenance labor for American industries and businesses to just stop using them.

Pale Rider
10-29-2007, 05:19 AM
We've already got laws on the books requiring employers to verify citizenship of their employees, and they haven't been enforced under Republican OR Democratic administrations. What makes you think this is going to be ANY different?
The tide is turning. People are sick of this, dem and repub alike, and they're demanding action of their elected officials, and the officials are finally getting the message... "fix it, or you won't be enjoying another term."


Illegals are to big a source of cheap, low maintenance labor for American industries and businesses to just stop using them.
Crimes are being committed, people will be punished. Mammon is no excuse to break the law.

bullypulpit
10-30-2007, 07:31 AM
The tide is turning. People are sick of this, dem and repub alike, and they're demanding action of their elected officials, and the officials are finally getting the message... "fix it, or you won't be enjoying another term."


Crimes are being committed, people will be punished. Mammon is no excuse to break the law.

SO, enforce the laws. With proper enforcement of current law, employers will cease hiring illegals, the messicans, at any rate, and the flow of illegal aliens will diminish markedly.

Of course helping the nations in Central and South America address the economic realities in their countries that lead their populations to seek to enter the US illegally for the purpose of finding work. Or is that too much like rational foreign and immigration policy?

Pale Rider
10-30-2007, 09:40 AM
SO, enforce the laws. With proper enforcement of current law, employers will cease hiring illegals, the messicans, at any rate, and the flow of illegal aliens will diminish markedly.
Absolutely! Enforcing the laws we have now would make a HUGE difference, and that's what many cities are beginning to do. But we could streamline the process along with new tools for employers to verify identity, and penalties for hiring illegals. We also need better funding to help law enforcement and ICE and the Border Patrol to do their job.


Of course helping the nations in Central and South America address the economic realities in their countries that lead their populations to seek to enter the US illegally for the purpose of finding work. Or is that too much like rational foreign and immigration policy?
I don't think it's so much the economic situations of south American countries as much as it's corruption. I do believe we should do MUCH more to help Mexico clean up the corruption. It's a rich and beautiful country, and it's our neighbor. I really find it disturbing that we can spend three quarters of a trillion dollars half way around the world in a war I don't believe we should have gotten into in the first place, but we can't help our neighbor.

April15
10-30-2007, 11:05 AM
Pale Rider,
Nothing would thrill my heart more than to see the laws on the books enforced. But like laws about speed limits on freeways they just aren't enforced. I do know law enforcement money is low funding for most politicos. At least here where I live it is. What I see on the freeway is just short of lawlessness. I am sure it carries over into the personal life of all of us this general disregard for laws we don't like or agree with.

Pale Rider
10-30-2007, 12:01 PM
Pale Rider,
Nothing would thrill my heart more than to see the laws on the books enforced. But like laws about speed limits on freeways they just aren't enforced. I do know law enforcement money is low funding for most politicos. At least here where I live it is. What I see on the freeway is just short of lawlessness. I am sure it carries over into the personal life of all of us this general disregard for laws we don't like or agree with.

The illegal alien problem is the number one hot button issue in the country. Change is coming, slow but sure. Don't lose hope. Help. Check out the link in the article. Write or call your senator and congressmen. I do on a weekly basis.

actsnoblemartin
10-30-2007, 10:14 PM
except, employers dont follow them, and government doesnt enforce them.


We've already got laws on the books requiring employers to verify citizenship of their employees, and they haven't been enforced under Republican OR Democratic administrations. What makes you think this is going to be ANY different?

Illegals are to big a source of cheap, low maintenance labor for American industries and businesses to just stop using them.

Pale Rider
10-31-2007, 12:56 PM
except, employers dont follow them, and government doesnt enforce them.

They don't really have the proper tools yet. The article outlines how they can solve that problem.

I do believe that most big business in America will check if given the tools to do so, like Wal Mart, and McDonalds, etc.. They're in business to make money. They don't want fines. Dry up the jobs, and you'll see a mass exit of illegals.