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stephanie
11-06-2007, 06:01 AM
Holy Moly...you all want to tie Limbuagh and Coulter around us conservatives necks.....Here's yours...liberals voice...

Olbermann: Bush may not observe the rules, but the country abides by them
MSNBC video


Special Comment: On waterboarding and torture
Nov. 5: Keith Olbermann comments on Pres. Bush and Michael Mukasey’s response to allegations of waterboarding in the Bush administration. Why was an Acting Assistant Attorney General forced out – just because he had the guts to do what Pres. Bush couldn't?


It is a fact startling in its cynical simplicity and it requires cynical and simple words to be properly expressed: The presidency of George W. Bush has now devolved into a criminal conspiracy to cover the ass of George W. Bush.

All the petulancy, all the childish threats, all the blank-stare stupidity; all the invocations of World War III, all the sophistic questions about which terrorist attacks we wanted him not to stop, all the phony secrets; all the claims of executive privilege, all the stumbling tap-dancing of his nominees, all the verbal flatulence of his apologists...

All of it is now, after one revelation last week, transparently clear for what it is: the pathetic and desperate manipulation of the government, the refocusing of our entire nation, toward keeping this mock president and this unstable vice president and this departed wildly self-overrating attorney general, and the others, from potential prosecution for having approved or ordered the illegal torture of prisoners being held in the name of this country.

"Waterboarding is torture," Daniel Levin was to write. Daniel Levin was no theorist and no protester. He was no troublemaking politician. He was no table-pounding commentator. Daniel Levin was an astonishingly patriotic American and a brave man.

Brave not just with words or with stances, even in a dark time when that kind of bravery can usually be scared or bought off.

Charged, as you heard in the story from ABC News last Friday, with assessing the relative legality of the various nightmares in the Pandora's box that is the Orwell-worthy euphemism "Enhanced Interrogation," Mr. Levin decided that the simplest, and the most honest, way to evaluate them ... was to have them enacted upon himself.

Daniel Levin took himself to a military base and let himself be waterboarded.

Mr. Bush, ever done anything that personally courageous?

Perhaps when you've gone to Walter Reed and teared up over the maimed servicemen? And then gone back to the White House and determined that there would be more maimed servicemen?

Has it been that kind of personal courage, Mr. Bush, when you've spoken of American victims and the triumph of freedom and the sacrifice of your own popularity for the sake of our safety? And then permitted others to fire or discredit or destroy anybody who disagreed with you, whether they were your own generals, or Max Cleland, or Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame, or Daniel Levin?

Daniel Levin should have a statue in his honor in Washington right now.

Instead, he was forced out as acting assistant attorney general nearly three years ago because he had the guts to do what George Bush couldn't do in a million years: actually put himself at risk for the sake of his country, for the sake of what is right.

And they waterboarded him. And he wrote that even though he knew those doing it meant him no harm, and he knew they would rescue him at the instant of the slightest distress, and he knew he would not die — still, with all that reassurance, he could not stop the terror screaming from inside of him, could not quell the horror, could not convince that which is at the core of each of us, the entity who exists behind all the embellishments we strap to ourselves, like purpose and name and family and love, he could not convince his being that he wasn't drowning.

Waterboarding, he said, is torture. Legally, it is torture! Practically, it is torture! Ethically, it is torture! And he wrote it down.

Wrote it down somewhere, where it could be contrasted with the words of this country's 43rd president: "The United States of America ... does not torture."

Made you into a liar, Mr. Bush.

Made you into, if anybody had the guts to pursue it, a criminal, Mr. Bush.


Can anyone plese explain what he just said???? :coffee:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21644133/

diuretic
11-06-2007, 06:11 AM
Thank you for the link. I have no doubt it's all over DU but I heard it here first :cheers2:

JohnDoe
11-06-2007, 07:27 AM
Can anyone plese explain what he just said????

You honestly did not understand what he just said Stephanie?

Or you just disagree with what he said?

Because if you really did not understand what he said, I think I can interpret it for you?

jd

gabosaurus
11-06-2007, 12:41 PM
I am sure Stephanie would rather wait from Rush and the extreme right-wing blogs to interpret it for her. Bush Apologists don't normally think for themselves.

stephanie
11-06-2007, 02:21 PM
I am sure Stephanie would rather wait from Rush and the extreme right-wing blogs to interpret it for her. Bush Apologists don't normally think for themselves.

How did you know...I'm listening to Rush right now..Maybe he'll interpret for me..
You liberals have some very ugly talk show hosts..:laugh2:

Hobbit
11-06-2007, 02:34 PM
How did you know...I'm listening to Rush right now..Maybe he'll interpret for me..
You liberals have some very ugly talk show hosts..:laugh2:

http://www.rbr.com/epaper/pics/randi_rhodes.jpg

http://theducks.org/pictures/do-not-want-dog.jpg

stephanie
11-06-2007, 02:40 PM
http://www.rbr.com/epaper/pics/randi_rhodes.jpg

http://theducks.org/pictures/do-not-want-dog.jpg

Woof...:laugh2:

theHawk
11-06-2007, 03:03 PM
"Waterboarding is torture," Daniel Levin was to write. Daniel Levin was no theorist and no protester. He was no troublemaking politician. He was no table-pounding commentator. Daniel Levin was an astonishingly patriotic American and a brave man.

..................

Waterboarding, he said, is torture. Legally, it is torture! Practically, it is torture! Ethically, it is torture! And he wrote it down.

..................

Wrote it down somewhere, where it could be contrasted with the words of this country's 43rd president: "The United States of America ... does not torture."



The problem is Daniel Levin didn't write down that "waterboarding is torture", this is what he said:


Levin, who refused to comment for this story, concluded waterboarding could be illegal torture unless performed in a highly limited way and with close supervision. And, sources told ABC News, he believed the Bush Administration had failed to offer clear guidelines for its use.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/DOJ/story?id=3814076&page=1



Opps, I guess that makes Keith Olbermann a liar. :laugh2:

I wonder if good 'ol Olbermann will nominate himself for "Worst Person in the World!"

manu1959
11-06-2007, 03:05 PM
The problem is Daniel Levin didn't write down that "waterboarding is torture", this is what he said:

Opps, I guess that makes Keith Olbermann a liar. :laugh2:

I wonder if good 'ol Olbermann will nominate himself for "Worst Person in the World!"

keith olberman is a sports comentator....

gabosaurus
11-06-2007, 03:18 PM
Tell you the truth, I would rather listen to Rush than any so-called "liberal commentator". That's not saying much though.

April15
11-06-2007, 06:54 PM
Olberman simply outed Bush. Olberman said what so many Americans already knew but could not get the conservative pundits that monopolize the airwaves to admit, Bush is a boil on the ass of America and needs to be ecsized.

BoogyMan
11-06-2007, 07:03 PM
Olberman simply outed Bush. Olberman said what so many Americans already knew but could not get the conservative pundits that monopolize the airwaves to admit, Bush is a boil on the ass of America and needs to be ecsized.

Olbermann is little more than the latest of the mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging troglodyte left to achieve minor celebrity status for being a complete pigeon chested little tosser on the public airwaves.

April15
11-06-2007, 09:02 PM
Olbermann is little more than the latest of the mouth-breathing knuckle-dragging troglodyte left to achieve minor celebrity status for being a complete pigeon chested little tosser on the public airwaves.Now I know I like his show!

diuretic
11-07-2007, 03:59 AM
keith olberman is a sports comentator....

And Rush Limpbollocks is a what?

stephanie
11-07-2007, 04:13 AM
And Rush Limpbollocks is a what?

HE DA MAN...:laugh2::dance:

diuretic
11-07-2007, 06:02 AM
HE DA MAN...:laugh2::dance:

Is there a white flag someone's not using? I feel the need for one :laugh2:

Hobbit
11-07-2007, 11:48 AM
And Rush Limpbollocks is a what?

America's Truth Detector
America's Anchorman
Headmaster at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies
That lovable, little fuzzball, Maha Rushie, a.k.a. El Rushbo

Of course, I, personally, prefer listening to the High Priest of the Church of the Painful Truth (http://boortz.com).

diuretic
11-08-2007, 06:33 AM
America's Truth Detector
America's Anchorman
Headmaster at the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies
That lovable, little fuzzball, Maha Rushie, a.k.a. El Rushbo

Of course, I, personally, prefer listening to the High Priest of the Church of the Painful Truth (http://boortz.com).

He makes me laugh, really he does. The reason is that he doesn't take himself seriously, he just acts like a blowhard but that's all it is, an act. In Sydney (I don't live in Sydney) there's an old queen conservative shock jock who really believes the crap he spouts. I've only heard him on radio when I've been in Sydney on business or vacation but I can't believe that people would bother to tune in. He's a frigging drone. He bangs on and on and on in whining manner. Rushbo is a lot more entertaining, I like his wild exaggerations and his rants and overall nuttiness. The bloke in Sydney actually influences our Prime Minister because they're both ultra-conservatives anyway but also because the radio bloke has such an audience reach. Yep, I'll tell you all about his audience reach, every time I hear the old queen I want to retch.