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avatar4321
11-10-2007, 05:39 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071110/wl_nm/chile_summit_dc

Chavez so deserves it. But then what do you expect from a dictator?

diuretic
11-10-2007, 06:04 PM
Ah, the old Spanish imperialism rears its ever-ugly head.

Chavez was elected. Mushareff is a dictator. Note the differences in how power was aquired and how it's maintained.

Yurt
11-11-2007, 10:20 PM
Ah, the old Spanish imperialism rears its ever-ugly head.

Chavez was elected. Mushareff is a dictator. Note the differences in how power was aquired and how it's maintained.

Yup, he was. And he can be impeached too, right? Removed from office? Sure he can, right?

How power is acquired and maintained is a geopolitical issue, which you know. Since you know it, what is your problem with it? You live in land that some aboriginals view as theirs and they view your leader as a "dictator." Note your silence, eh.

avatar4321
11-11-2007, 10:41 PM
Ah, the old Spanish imperialism rears its ever-ugly head.

Chavez was elected. Mushareff is a dictator. Note the differences in how power was aquired and how it's maintained.

you know there is a huge difference between someone who is elected to office and removes all opponents to make himself a dictator and a man who begins as a dictator and is trying to democracize his people.

Oh and Mushareff was elected too. Thats why he has taken the action he has. The Courts were trying to invalidate the election results.

Sertes
11-12-2007, 04:22 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071110/wl_nm/chile_summit_dc

Chavez so deserves it. But then what do you expect from a dictator?

A slightly different article:



A violent row between Spain's King Juan Carlos I and Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez brought an Ibero-American summit here to end in spectacular fashion Saturday.

Spain's monarch stormed out just before the scheduled end of the forum, visibly furious at Chavez's description of his former prime minister as a "fascist" and for launching a wide-ranging tirade that could not be stopped.

The dispute was a dramatic finale for the 17th meeting of the heads of state and government of Spanish and Portuguese-speaking countries in Latin America, and Spain, Portugal, and Andorra, which started Thursday.

Chavez -- a notoriously hotheaded leader who is seeking to leverage his country's oil wealth to win influence over other South American nations -- earned the ire of the Spanish delegation upon his arrival on Friday.

His description of Spain's former conservative prime minister Jose-Maria Aznar as a "fascist" prompted current Prime Minister Jose-Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, a Socialist, to call on Chavez to show more "respect".

But Chavez forged on, and on Saturday he repeated the contentious f-word in relation to Aznar, adding: "A fascist isn't human, a snake is more human than a fascist."

A choleric King Juan Carlos then stepped in, demanding of Chavez: "Why don't you just shut up?"

But the Venezuelan leader carried on, attacking the United States (a favorite target of his), the Catholic Church in Venezuela and the pope. He also accused the United States and Europe of having approved of the failed coup against him in 2002.

Spain's king then stormed out of the conference as Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega stepped up to support Chavez.

The row overshadowed attempts by the summit's participants to come up with a joint effort to overcome wealth and social inequalities in Latin America in the face of deep ideological differences.

Chavez led a bloc of hardline leftists, backed by Ortega, Bolivian President Evo Morales, Ecuador's President Rafael Correa and the executive secretary to the absent Cuban leader Fidel Castro, Carlos Lage, critical of other participating nations seen as too economically liberal.

Later Sunday, the members of that bloc were to address a "people's summit" of 10,000 left-wing sympathizers.