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red states rule
11-17-2007, 12:48 PM
In 06, Dems promised they would lower gas prices. they bashed Pres Bush and the oil compnaies - but what the hell have they done since they were elected

Where is their energy plan?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhIAphdavPU

REDWHITEBLUE2
11-17-2007, 12:52 PM
In 06, Dems promised they would lower gas prices. they bashed Pres Bush and the oil compnaies - but what the hell have they done since they were elected
You like most Americans misunderstood the Dimwits they really said they would raise gas prices by raising the gas taxes which true to there word they have done :laugh2:

red states rule
11-17-2007, 12:54 PM
You like most Americans misunderstood the Dimwits they really said they would raise gas prices by raising the gas taxes which true to there word they have done :laugh2:

Or maybe the libs finally understand government has no control over the FREE MARKET

oof course the twits raised taxes - that is what libs live to do

REDWHITEBLUE2
11-17-2007, 01:00 PM
Or maybe the libs finally understand government has no control over the FREE MARKET

of course the twits raised taxes - that is what libs live to do Out here in WA State our illegal governess promised to not raise taxes guess what? yep your right first thing the bitch did was pass a 9 cents a gallon tax increase on fuel right after the voters turned down a 5 cent increase just proves if a liberals lips are moving they are lying

red states rule
11-17-2007, 01:02 PM
Out here in WA State our illegal governess promised to not raise taxes guess what? yep your right first thing the bitch did was pass a 9 cents a gallon tax increase on fuel right after the voters turned down a 5 cent increase just proves if a liberals lips are moving they are lying

In MD, they voted in a Dem Gov with a Dem State Senate

Last week they passed a $1.1 billion tax increase. They raised state income taxes, the gas tax, corporate income tax, the state sales tax

Yurt
11-17-2007, 08:51 PM
In MD, they voted in a Dem Gov with a Dem State Senate

Last week they passed a $1.1 billion tax increase. They raised state income taxes, the gas tax, corporate income tax, the state sales tax

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red states rule
11-18-2007, 06:07 AM
BREAKING NEWS...........................


Reid and Pelosi revealed their plan ro lower gas prices. With oil approaching $100/bl, the Democrat Congress promised the voters cheaper barrels will be used, and they will be recycled after use

Hobbit
11-18-2007, 01:57 PM
I'll tell you what happened. They realized that gasoline is an essential resource with inelastic demand, making it a cash cow for whoever collects taxes.

red states rule
11-18-2007, 01:59 PM
I'll tell you what happened. They realized that gasoline is an essential resource with inelastic demand, making it a cash cow for whoever collects taxes.

Government taxes add 50 to 70 cents to the price of a gallon of gas

Oil companies make about 10 cents profit off the same gallon

Libs whine about the "evil" oil companies legal profit - but they love the tax money that flows into the government

JohnDoe
11-20-2007, 01:21 PM
The deflated USA Dollar is what is causing oil prices to rise. This is the WRONG policy and is hurting us all bigtime.

Also, continuing to add to our reserves, with top grade refinable oil, during the winter months when it is needed more, is bad policy, and not helping the matter.

In addition to this War is an uncertainty that oil specualtors are using to raise prices.

there is an abundance of oil in the marketplace, with the Saudi's increasing production as of September that was suppose to lower the cost per barrel, BUT this plan did not work on the usual supply and demand model because of the deflated dollar, which oil is traded on.

Basically, as long as the usa's dollar is dropping in value, the higher the oil per barrel will go

In addition to this our oil/gas companies have decided that they do not want to use the crude oil that we take out of the ground and seas in the usa and have decided they want to use a purer, easily refinable oil to make our gas and are importing top grade oil to refine for our gasoline and selling off our crude oil to others, this too creates higher prices.

All of these reasons outside of the last one involves the policies of this administration, not the Congress....especially their CHOICE to deflate the dollar.

jd

April15
11-20-2007, 01:32 PM
The election of 06 was hoped to be a turning point in the Bush war. The republicants have not seen the light and we still have an invasion force in the middle east nations. Without cooperation from the republicants oil will stay high. The ME needs to have stability before oil will come down, but as of now i don't think it would be much because of our weak economic standing devaluing our currency.

Sir Evil
11-20-2007, 01:54 PM
The deflated USA Dollar is what is causing oil prices to rise. This is the WRONG policy and is hurting us all bigtime.

Also, continuing to add to our reserves, with top grade refinable oil, during the winter months when it is needed more, is bad policy, and not helping the matter.

In addition to this War is an uncertainty that oil specualtors are using to raise prices.

there is an abundance of oil in the marketplace, with the Saudi's increasing production as of September that was suppose to lower the cost per barrel, BUT this plan did not work on the usual supply and demand model because of the deflated dollar, which oil is traded on.

Basically, as long as the usa's dollar is dropping in value, the higher the oil per barrel will go

In addition to this our oil/gas companies have decided that they do not want to use the crude oil that we take out of the ground and seas in the usa and have decided they want to use a purer, easily refinable oil to make our gas and are importing top grade oil to refine for our gasoline and selling off our crude oil to others, this too creates higher prices.

All of these reasons outside of the last one involves the Politices of this administration, not the Congress....especially their CHOICE to deflate the dollar.

jd

So in essence this is a republican issue? The dems have no voice in the matter, no way to combat the administrations quest for rising fuel costs? :rolleyes:

Who's the "they" that don't want to drill our coasts for oil, or tap other possibilites? It's all about the cleaner more refinable product is it?.....what a shitbrick!...

actsnoblemartin
11-20-2007, 06:38 PM
None.


In 06, Dems promised they would lower gas prices. they bashed Pres Bush and the oil compnaies - but what the hell have they done since they were elected

Where is their energy plan?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhIAphdavPU

JohnDoe
11-20-2007, 07:28 PM
So in essence this is a republican issue? The dems have no voice in the matter, no way to combat the administrations quest for rising fuel costs? :rolleyes:

Who's the "they" that don't want to drill our coasts for oil, or tap other possibilites? It's all about the cleaner more refinable product is it?.....what a shitbrick!...


Ummmm, do you have a crush on me Sir Evil? Following me around like a sick little puppy, with only the capability of babbling thoughtless words because you are in my presence?

I am beginning to think so....

You flatter me!!!!!


:thanks:

jd

Sir Evil
11-21-2007, 09:44 AM
Ummmm, do you have a crush on me Sir Evil? Following me around like a sick little puppy, with only the capability of babbling thoughtless words because you are in my presence?

I am beginning to think so....

You flatter me!!!!!


:thanks:

jd

Yeah well don't be too flattered as I would have about as much interest in you as I would in a wet fart.

Funny how the thoughtless words left you without a meaningful reply, no surprises there being your initial post here was just another mere leftist opinion lacking anything of substance.

Again Who's the "they" that don't want to drill our coasts for oil, or tap other resources?

Hagbard Celine
11-21-2007, 10:13 AM
In 06, Dems promised they would lower gas prices. they bashed Pres Bush and the oil compnaies - but what the hell have they done since they were elected

Where is their energy plan?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhIAphdavPU

Well, since the Republican energy plan, i.e. "invade the Middle East" is already using all of the energy plan budget, they just decided to stick with it instead of actually coming up with a new one.

JohnDoe
11-21-2007, 11:26 AM
Yeah well don't be too flattered as I would have about as much interest in you as I would in a wet fart.

Funny how the thoughtless words left you without a meaningful reply, no surprises there being your initial post here was just another mere leftist opinion lacking anything of substance.

Again Who's the "they" that don't want to drill our coasts for oil, or tap other resources?


I NEVER said anything about restraining the drilling off of our coasts this is why I ignored your comment. That was not part of my statement. I said that some of the oil / gas refining companies have decided to import a higher, much more expensive quality oil to refine for gasoline verses the crude, of lesser value oil that we pull out of the ground and sea beds, to make our gasoline. The oil refiners are buying top quality imported oil which is much more expensive verses the lesser quality oil that WE have here in America to make a great deal of our gasoline.

And that in our country's oil reserves.. bought by our gvt with our tax dollars, to put in to the caverns in Louisianna etc, awaiting a rainy day, is a higher quality oil than the oil we pull out of the gulf and other wells here in the usa....thus IMPORTED oil, not USA OIL.

This has caused the price of gasoline to be higher than it would be and the price to us for our gvt oil reserves to be a much higher cost to the tax payer than it would be, if they just bought domestic oil to fill our reserves.

This information and a better explanation than what I have expressed can be found at www.c-span.org, yesterday's Washington Journal.

And as far as what you are concerned with, drilling in the Gulf, Florida has pushed to restrict this for decades, including during the reign of Jeb Bush as governor in Florida..yes, UNDER republican reign this has been nixed.....and I don't blame them, because their Coastline IS their primariy economy and they can not risk a mistake or a hurricane or an accident that could spoil their gold, which is their coastline.

And in Alaska, it is democrats and environmentalists that are preventing the drilling in our National Wildlife Reserve.

jd

Sir Evil
11-21-2007, 03:26 PM
I NEVER said anything about restraining the drilling off of our coasts this is why I ignored your comment.

Really? let's look a bit closer:



In addition to this our oil/gas companies have decided that they do not want to use the crude oil that we take out of the ground and seas in the usa and have decided they want to use a purer, easily refinable oil to make our gas and are importing top grade oil to refine for our gasoline and selling off our crude oil to others, this too creates higher prices.

So is that something like not comprehending your own post or does "ground and seas in the usa" just have a way of allowing oil to seep through without drilling? Maybe the sea is not of the coasts but somewhere else?



And as far as what you are concerned with, drilling in the Gulf, Florida has pushed to restrict this for decades, including during the reign of Jeb Bush as governor in Florida..yes, UNDER republican reign this has been nixed.....and I don't blame them, because their Coastline IS their primariy economy and they can not risk a mistake or a hurricane or an accident that could spoil their gold, which is their coastline.


Yes, I can see how my question about coastal drilling somehow rang out Florida and only Florida.:rolleyes:

Oh maybe it's that the sea only reaches the coast of Florida, and not the rest of the usa? As we seen with your other thought somehow "ground and sea in the usa" would have nothing to do with drilling our coasts but only if you say Florida, than it can be considered into the equation.. :laugh2: