America’s Standing In The World

[82Marine89]

LINK (http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=174)

I am already quite sick of hearing Democrat candidates say that we have to “improve America’s standing in the world” as if the whole world holds our nation in contempt or disagrees with our actions.

All nations act upon what they believe to be their best interests and those interests are often shaped by their political philosophy. These things are subject to change. For example, there are some 200 sovereign nations in the world. Of these, 120 are multi-party democracies. Compare this with 1970 when there were fewer than 35 nations that were not outright dictatorships or operating under the iron fist of the single party rule of Communism.

One might conclude from this that democracy is catching on around the world and that in this new century most people want some form of representative government for their nation.

[Yurt]

LINK (http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=174)


Only those vile few who hate freedom want America to fail.

The greatest critics of America are often Americans, forever striving to improve every sector of its national life. America is not above criticism, but it remains a nation that is by far the most dynamic, most innovative, most devoted to the rule of law and equality for all its citizens.

Americans need not worry much about “restoring” our standing among the nations of the world. We are held in very good standing, thank you.


Rings true. If our supposed standing is so bad, why are people literally dying to get here?

The only thing that has changed is that the loobs have a more powerful media base, TV. They cry foul over AM radio, but they control the TV. Then again, they cry because they are communists and must control every form of communication.

Our standing is not "bad." Islam has been at war with the world since it's birth. How can people forget the first attempt on the towers in 1993? How?

Clinton was a lameduck due to his infidelities. Bush came in and did what Clinton should have done years before.

You libs are just pissed that a republican had the courage to do what Clinton could not.

[Joe Steel]

Rings true. If our supposed standing is so bad, why are people literally dying to get here?

Ever look at immigration statistics?

Immigrants come mostly from Central and South America and the southwestern Pacific. Very few residents of first world democracies wish to emigrate to the US.

Do you know what that means?

It means the US is better than a second or third world country but not as good as a modern, social democracy.

That's why Democrats are concerned about America's standing.

[avatar4321]

Who cares about how we appear. Image is nothing. Doing what's right is everything.

Oh and there is immigration from Europe to the US still.

[Classact]

There was a super liberal lady guest on CSPAN this morning talking about why the CIA shouldn't have destroyed the tapes of the interrogation and how it affects the US image in the world... Three or four callers called in and told he she was a left wing tool... one guy really put her in her place and told her idiots like you and the liberals in congress will get booed off the stage and be unable to find a microphone if another attack occurs on America... now just stop your whining and shut up lady! The other callers were pretty much saying I don't think we need to know that much about national security, why do you like to pick and pick? We don't care what happened to those terrorists, stop talking about it and stop sending the stories to the NY times. We don't care how the world sees us as long as they see us alive.

[5stringJeff]

Ever look at immigration statistics?

Immigrants come mostly from Central and South America and the southwestern Pacific. Very few residents of first world democracies wish to emigrate to the US.

Do you know what that means?

It means the US is better than a second or third world country but not as good as a modern, social democracy.

That's why Democrats are concerned about America's standing.

So, are there more 1st World residents immigrating to America than there are Americans immigrating to other 1st World countries?

[April15]

Rings true. If our supposed standing is so bad, why are people literally dying to get here?

The only thing that has changed is that the loobs have a more powerful media base, TV. They cry foul over AM radio, but they control the TV. Then again, they cry because they are communists and must control every form of communication.

Our standing is not "bad." Islam has been at war with the world since it's birth. How can people forget the first attempt on the towers in 1993? How?

Clinton was a lameduck due to his infidelities. Bush came in and did what Clinton should have done years before.

You libs are just pissed that a republican had the courage to do what Clinton could not.

The republican vendetta against Clinton equated to impotence for anything he did. To wit;

cnn.com/US/9607/30/clinton.terrorism/
President wants Senate to hurry with new anti-terrorism laws
clinton.sm July 30, 1996
Web posted at: 8:40 p.m. EDT

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Clinton urged Congress Tuesday to act swiftly in developing anti-terrorism legislation before its August recess. (1.6 MB AIFF or WAV sound)sound icon

"We need to keep this country together right now. We need to focus on this terrorism issue," Clinton said during a White House news conference.

But while the president pushed for quick legislation, Republican lawmakers hardened their stance against some of the proposed anti-terrorism measures.
lott

Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Mississippi, doubted that the Senate would rush to action before they recess this weekend. The Senate needs to study all the options, he said, and trying to get it done in the next three days would be tough.

One key GOP senator was more critical, calling a proposed study of chemical markers in explosives "a phony issue."
Taggants value disputed

Clinton said he knew there was Republican opposition to his proposal on explosive taggants, but it should not be allowed to block the provisions on which both parties agree.

"What I urge them to do is to be explicit about their disagreement, but don't let it overcome the areas of agreement," he said.

The president emphasized coming to terms on specific areas of disagreement would help move the legislation along. The president stressed it's important to get the legislation out before the weekend's recess, especially following the bombing of Centennial Olympic Park and the crash of TWA Flight 800.

"The most important thing right now is that they get the best, strongest bill they can out -- that they give us as much help as they can," he said.
Hatch blasts 'phony' issues

Republican leaders earlier met with White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta for about an hour in response to the president's call for "the very best ideas" for fighting terrorism.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, emerged from the meeting and said, "These are very controversial provisions that the White House wants. Some they're not going to get."

Hatch called Clinton's proposed study of taggants -- chemical markers in explosives that could help track terrorists -- "a phony issue."

"If they want to, they can study the thing" already, Hatch asserted. He also said he had some problems with the president's proposals to expand wiretapping.

Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota, said it is a mistake if Congress leaves town without addressing anti-terrorism legislation. Daschle is expected to hold a special meeting on the matter Wednesday with Congressional leaders.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Congress passes anti-terrorism bill

April 18, 1996
Web posted at: 6:30 p.m. EDT
Anit terrorism bill

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Congress on Thursday passed a compromise bill boosting the ability of law enforcement authorities to fight domestic terrorism, just one day before the first anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing.

The House voted, 293-133, to send the anti-terrorism bill to President Clinton, who has indicated that he will sign it after he returns from his overseas trip next week.

The measure, which the Senate passed overwhelmingly Wednesday evening, is a watered-down version of the White House's proposal. The Clinton administration has been critical of the bill, calling it too weak.

The original House bill, passed last month, had deleted many of the Senate's anti-terrorism provisions because of lawmakers' concerns about increasing federal law enforcement powers. Some of those provisions were restored in the compromise bill.

The bill imposes limits on federal appeals by death row inmates and other prisoners and makes the death penalty available in some international terrorism cases and in cases where a federal employee is killed on duty.

The bill "has some very effective tools that we can use in our efforts to combat terrorism," Attorney General Janet Reno said Thursday.

But she was less enthusiastic about the bill's limits on federal appeals by death row inmates and other prisoners. She was also concerned that the bill would make it more difficult for federal judges to overturn state court rulings.

Republicans were divided on whether the legislation would be effective.

"We have a measure that will give us a strong upper hand in the battle to prevent and punish domestic and international terrorism," Senate Majority Leader and presumptive GOP presidential nominee Bob Dole said Wednesday.

But Sen. Don Nickles, R-Oklahoma, while praising the bill, said the country remains "very open" to terrorism. "Will it stop any acts of terrorism, domestic and international? No," he said, adding, "We don't want a police state."

Some lawmakers took a more prudent view of the bill. "The balance between public safety and order and individual rights is always a difficult dilemma in a free society," said Rep. Gerald Solomon, R-New York.

Congressional leaders had initially promised to complete the bill six weeks after the Oklahoma City federal building bombing that killed 168 people last April 19.

So the republicans aided in the impotence for their gain.
It is a case of forced appeasement not a lack of courage.

[April15]

So, are there more 1st World residents immigrating to America than there are Americans immigrating to other 1st World countries?It costs less to move here than to move out. Also, many countries don't want Americans and make US feel unwanted.

[LiberalNation]

Who cares about how we appear. Image is nothing. Doing what's right is everything.

Cept you wont have any support when it comes to doing what you think is right if your image sucks. We can't fight the entire world.

[Kathianne]

Cept you wont have any support when it comes to doing what you think is right if your image sucks. We can't fight the entire world.

Right, well sort of not:


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/07/world/middleeast/07iran.html?ref=europe


December 7, 2007
Despite Report, France and Germany Keep Pressure on Iran
By KATRIN BENNHOLD

PARIS, Dec. 6 — The leaders of France and Germany said Thursday that Iran remained a danger and that other nations needed to keep up the pressure over its nuclear program despite a United States intelligence report’s conclusion that Tehran was no longer building a bomb.

Speaking at a joint news conference at the Élysée Palace, President Nicolas Sarkozy and Chancellor Angela Merkel said they had not changed their minds despite the findings of the American intelligence estimate released Monday, which some believed would have eroded support for tougher new sanctions.

Their remarks came as Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice won the backing of NATO foreign ministers on Thursday for new United Nations sanctions against Iran over its nuclear program.

“The threat exists,” said Mr. Sarkozy, one of the staunchest defenders of the new sanctions. “Notwithstanding the latest elements, everyone is fully conscious of the fact that there is a will among the Iranian leaders to obtain nuclear weapons.”

“I don’t see why we should renounce sanctions,” he added. “What made Iran budge so far has been sanctions and firmness.”

Mrs. Merkel stopped short of explicitly mentioning sanctions, but also appeared determined to support current negotiations in the Security Council on the issue. “I think that we are in a process, and that Iran continues to pose a danger,” she said.

The National Intelligence Estimate made public on Monday said that Tehran had frozen its nuclear weapons program in 2003. But it also said that the country was continuing to build up a technical ability that could be used both for civilian and military purposes....

But of course now China and Russia can break ranks, how long before there is no choice?

[avatar4321]

Cept you wont have any support when it comes to doing what you think is right if your image sucks. We can't fight the entire world.

we can't? According to who?

[avatar4321]

The republican vendetta against Clinton equated to impotence for anything he did. To wit;



Here is a crazy idea. Why not, instead of attacking Republicans for upholding their duties in prosecuting high crimes and misdemeaners. You put the blame on the President who committed the crimes.

If Clinton was impotent because he committed crimes and was caught, that is no body's fault but his own.

[LiberalNation]

we can't? According to who?
LOL so you think an America against a united entire world would come out on top. :laugh2:

[Kathianne]

LOL so you think an America against a united entire world would come out on top. :laugh2:

Perhaps not, but where is the 'united entire world'? Hell the House of Lords is going nuts over the EU Constitution and seriously squawking about sovereignty and usurping of powers. France and Germany just chimed in with US about sanctions, pretty sure UK is with us too.

Just saying...

[5stringJeff]

LOL so you think an America against a united entire world would come out on top. :laugh2:

Absolutely.

[LiberalNation]

Perhaps not, but where is the 'united entire world'?
Don't exist but we're talkin theoretical here.

[LiberalNation]

Absolutely.
Shakes head, China alone could sink us albiet sinking themselves at the same time but then back to the theoretical.........

[5stringJeff]

Shakes head, China alone could sink us albiet sinking themselves at the same time but then back to the theoretical.........

China's navy is pathetic in comparison to the US Navy.

[LiberalNation]

yeah cuz ya know that's what I'm talkin about. Think cheap goods.

[5stringJeff]

yeah cuz ya know that's what I'm talkin about. Think cheap goods.

Think captial. If were ever went to war with China, we'd blockade their naval trade, which means their exports would plummet and their economy would tank. We, on the other hand, might have to make do with fewer gadgets and toys for a few months.

[LiberalNation]

Shrugs, maybe.

[trobinett]

LINK (http://www.conservativetruth.org/article.php?id=174)

I am already quite sick of hearing Democrat candidates say that we have to “improve America’s standing in the world” as if the whole world holds our nation in contempt or disagrees with our actions.

All nations act upon what they believe to be their best interests and those interests are often shaped by their political philosophy. These things are subject to change. For example, there are some 200 sovereign nations in the world. Of these, 120 are multi-party democracies. Compare this with 1970 when there were fewer than 35 nations that were not outright dictatorships or operating under the iron fist of the single party rule of Communism.

One might conclude from this that democracy is catching on around the world and that in this new century most people want some form of representative government for their nation.

Seems YOU have a handle on this issue, and I, for one, support your view.

FUCK, what other nations think about our national interest.

If we don't watch out for ourselves, who the hell will?

The fucking left, would run our country on a popularity contest, a sure forumula for third world status.

Ya do what ya have to do, period.:salute:

[82Marine89]

Seems YOU have a handle on this issue, and I, for one, support your view.

FUCK, what other nations think about our national interest.

If we don't watch out for ourselves, who the hell will?

The fucking left, would run our country on a popularity contest, a sure forumula for third world status.

Ya do what ya have to do, period.:salute:

Amen brother.