* * * Debate Policy - Political Message Board Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : House Will Vote on Whether to Make Washington D.C. a State Tuesday Started at 04-16-2021 02:02 PM by jimnyc Visit at http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=72799 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : jimnyc Date : 04-16-2021 02:02 PM Title : House Will Vote on Whether to Make Washington D.C. a State Tuesday So been how long? 3 months barely? And in comes the supreme court & new state BS from them. They are seemingly all in on adding 4 new justices to the SC. Their reasoning is complete bullshit. And now onto statehood and more democrat representatives. Just a quick roundup of the news on the SC: The conservative judges nominated and put on the SC are "extremist judges". As a result there is a "crisis of confidence in our country". 2 SC seats were "stolen". Our democracy is in jeopardy, necessitating they put 4 new justices on the bench. They must abolish the filibuster in order to do so, and will do just that. They want to convince America that the republicans broke the law, which they did not. That the change is needed to reflect values and other BS. As if 13 members can't end up leaning towards one side in the future depending on the voting of America. All it changes is giving them control NOW and also, and hopefully for years to come. Additionally, I don't think any of the judges are extremists. And IMO the only loss of confidence in America is Americans seeing politics in it's entirety for what it is. Seeing the media and their true colors. And seeing the corruption within our acronyms - FBI,CIA,DOJ... I still have to wonder as I have all along, that if they pull this stunt and add more justices, what is to prevent future administrations from changing numbers as well? As if we already don't have enough tit for tat BS. --- House Will Vote on Whether to Make Washington D.C. a State Tuesday The House of Representatives will vote Tuesday on whether to make Washington, D.C., a State. The House Oversight Committee, chaired by Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), voted the bill, H.R. 51, out of committee by a vote of 25-19 to create D.C. statehood Wednesday. https://i.imgur.com/FnrwVM8.png The ultimate argument seems to be whether the 23rd Amendment guarantees the federal Capitol at least three electors in presidential elections, Rep. Any Biggs (R-AZ) suggested Wednesday. Biggs’ view is supported by legal scholars, who opposed D.C. statehood’s feasibility without a Constitutional amendment to the 23rd Amendment. The Office of Legal Counsel in 2007 believed it was unconstitutional, the Justice Department under former President Reagan and former President Carter stated the transformation was unconstitutional, and so did Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, when he sat on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals. Additionally, twenty-two state Attorneys General sent a letter Tuesday to President Joe Biden and Congress arguing Washington, D.C., cannot transition into a state via legislation, but only through the method of a Constitutional amendment. Opposition to D.C. statehood is argued on three classical points: Our nation’s capital was always meant to be unique. The founders wanted it to be a federal district, existing beyond the confines or influence of any one state. H.R. 51 would require Congress to ignore the plain command of the 23rd Amendment. Even those who support D.C. statehood admit district residents enjoy special benefits due to where they live and would enjoy an outsize influence in Congress. Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/16/house-will-vote-make-washington-state-tuesday/ HOUSE AND SENATE DEMOCRATS PLAN BILL TO ADD FOUR JUSTICES TO SUPREME COURT The Constitution allows Congress to set the number of Supreme Court justices. CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS PLAN to unveil legislation expanding the size of the Supreme Court on Thursday, according to three congressional sources familiar with the closely held measure. The bill would add four seats to the high court, bringing the total to 13 from the current nine. The bill is led by House Judiciary Committee Chair Jerry Nadler, subcommittee Chair Hank Johnson, and first-term Rep. Mondaire Jones. In the Senate, the bill is being championed by Ed Markey of Massachusetts. The number of justices on the court, which is set by Congress, has fluctuated throughout the course of the nation’s history, reaching as many as 10 seats before settling on nine in 1869. In 2016, Sen. Ted Cruz suggested that if Hillary Clinton were elected, the Republican Senate should keep Justice Antonin Scalia’s seat empty, effectively bringing the number of justices down to eight. Republicans currently hold six seats, while Democrats hold just three. Republicans were able to solidify control of the court under former President Donald Trump, after first refusing to advance Merrick Garland’s nomination under former President Barack Obama and then confirming Justice Neil Gorsuch after Trump’s election. Then after Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died last September, Republicans threw out the procedures they had previously embraced and confirmed Justice Amy Coney Barrett in a matter of weeks. After Trump’s nomination of Barrett, then-Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer faced pressure to stop her confirmation by any means necessary. When those myriad options fell short and Barrett was pushed through, the conversation turned to expanding the court. “Not only do these extremist judges threaten more than a century of progressive achievements,” read a letter to Schumer by 20 New York elected officials, “they threaten to foreclose the possibility of any future progress under a Democratic administration.” Rest - https://theintercept.com/2021/04/14/house-and-senate-democrats-plan-bill-to-add-four-justices-to-supreme-court/ Pelosi: Growth of U.S. 'might necessitate' expanding the size of the Supreme Court Democrats Rep. Jerry Nadler and Massachusetts Sen. Ed Markey introduced the Judiciary Act that would add four justices to the Supreme Court House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Thursday that the growth of the U.S. population and the size of the economy "might necessitate" expanding the size of the Supreme Court. New York Democratic Rep. Jerry Nadler and Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Ed Markey formally introduced the Judiciary Act of 2021 on Thursday that would add four justices to the Supreme Court, which would create a liberal majority 7-6. The court now has what is considered a 6-3 conservative majority. Pelosi was asked if she will commit to bringing the bill to the floor. "No. I support the president's commission to study such a proposal," the California Democrat said at a news conference. Pelosi emphasized that Democrats are focused on "putting together" President Biden's American Jobs Plan into a bill but said expanding the high court should be considered. "I don't know that that's a good idea or a bad idea. I think it's an idea that should be considered and I think the president is taking the right approach to have a commission to study such a thing," Pelosi said. "It's a big step. It's not out of the question. It has been done before in the history of our country, a long time ago." Pelosi said that "the growth of country" and the "size of our country, the growth of our challenges in terms of the economy, etcetera, might necessitate such a thing." Addressing Nadler's bill, Pelosi added that she has "no plans to bring it to the floor." Rest - https://justthenews.com/government/congress/pelosi-growth-us-might-necessitate-expanding-size-supreme-court Ed Markey: Four Additional Biden-Appointed Supreme Court Justices Will ‘Reflect the Values’ of Americans Sen. Ed Markey (D-MA) joined his Democrat colleagues on Thursday, unveiling the left’s proposal, the Judiciary Act Of 2021, to expand the Supreme Court to 13 justices instead of nine, contending it would “rightfully reflect the values of the majority of the American people.” Markey sharply criticized Republicans, accusing them, under the leadership of then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and former President Trump, of breaking the Supreme Court following the nomination and confirmation of Justice Amy Coney Barrett. “As a result, we have a stilted, illegitimate 6-3 conservative majority on the court that has caused this crisis of confidence in our country,” Markey claimed, despite conservatives remaining shaky on whether the Court has a consistent conservative majority at all. Markey continued, accusing Republicans of effectively stealing two Supreme Court seats in recent years. “The Republicans stole two seats on the Supreme Court, and now it is up to us to repair that damage. Our democracy is in jeopardy today because the Supreme Court’s standing is solely damaged. And the way we repair it is straightforward,” he said, outlining what he views as the Democrats’ duty to restore balance by adding four seats, creating a 13-member court. “These four new seats, to be filled by president Biden, will reconstitute the United States Supreme Court. The bench will then rightfully reflect the values of the majority of the American people on whose behalf they serve,” Markey claimed, defending the constitutionality of Congress taking such action. “We must expand the Court and we must abolish the filibuster to do it,” he said as he continued to maim his Republican counterparts. “Republicans seem to think that equal justice means justice for their purposes. Their values. Their causes,” he said. “Expanding the Supreme Court rights the wrongs the Republicans have done to this great Court. Expanding the Supreme Court is equal justice and will ensure equal justice is dispensed to all Americans.” Rest - https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/04/15/ed-markey-four-additional-biden-appointed-supreme-court-justices-will-reflect-values-americans/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : KarlMarx Date : 04-18-2021 10:09 AM Title : House Will Vote on Whether to Make Washington D.C. a State Tuesday I have an idea... all Republican Senators don’t show up to vote Tuesday. They should all go to a ballgame instead or maybe just sleep in for the day. Why? Because, unless there is a majority of Senators present, which constitutes a quorum, the Senate cannot do business Article I Section 5 5.1 Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : jimnyc Date : 04-18-2021 03:05 PM I have an idea... all Republican Senators don’t show up to vote Tuesday. They should all go to a ballgame instead or maybe just sleep in for the day. Why? Because, unless there is a majority of Senators present, which constitutes a quorum, the Senate cannot do business Article I Section 5 5.1 Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My first thought is that it would be insane of them to do so! But this would deserve it IMO. They are the ones playing dirty & loose with the facts, it would be appropriate IMO to not allow for them a vote on it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : KarlMarx Date : 04-18-2021 07:35 PM Title : House Will Vote on Whether to Make Washington D.C. a State Tuesday We are in a state of war with the Democrats. I am firmly convinced that the party should be outlawed as soon as possible. Fighting your enemy means fighting dirty. We can no longer afford to be civil with those sons of bitches. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : icansayit Date : 04-18-2021 08:55 PM Title : Anyone remember what happened on January 20th???? Joe didn't need a Teleprompter for this... http://icansayit.com/pictures/bidenreverseall.jpg And without knowing it....His FIRST and ONLY True statement was made. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : KarlMarx Date : 04-19-2021 05:24 AM Title : House Will Vote on Whether to Make Washington D.C. a State Tuesday Joe didn't need a Teleprompter for this... http://icansayit.com/pictures/bidenreverseall.jpg And without knowing it....His FIRST and ONLY True statement was made. 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