* * * Debate Policy - Political Message Board Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Winning economy down 1500pts in 2 days Started at 12-06-2018 11:29 AM by pete311 Visit at http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?t=65019 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : pete311 Date : 12-06-2018 11:29 AM Title : Winning economy down 1500pts in 2 days We've erased all gains from 2018. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : Black Diamond Date : 12-06-2018 11:36 AM Does this mean it's time for Obama to stop taking credit? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : High_Plains_Drifter Date : 12-06-2018 11:40 AM https://image.ibb.co/jTtF0V/ASSCLOWN.jpg -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : NightTrain Date : 12-06-2018 12:20 PM We've erased all gains from 2018. Sell, Pete! SELL NOW!!11! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : aboutime Date : 12-06-2018 03:30 PM Title : Sorry to hear it petey....so sorry. We've erased all gains from 2018. Now it looks like your Mommy will have to pay FULL PRICE for your DAY CARE!:laugh: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : Gunny Date : 12-06-2018 06:27 PM We've erased all gains from 2018.Odd. I haven't lost a dime. I must have invested well :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : High_Plains_Drifter Date : 12-06-2018 07:52 PM Odd. I haven't lost a dime. I must have invested well :) I haven't lost a dime either. But then I don't play Stock Market Roulette. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : High_Plains_Drifter Date : 12-06-2018 07:57 PM The DOW has fully recovered... https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/investing/stock-market-today-dow-jones-huawei/index.html But what you need to understand about these massive panic maneuvers with the big dips and swings is, it's COMPUTER ALGORITHMS DOING IT. A COMPUTER is doing the SELLING, and then PEOPLE FREAK OUT. I wouldn't invest in some maniacal money exchanging fest run by computers if you gave me the initial investment. I'd buy LAND or GOLD or something else tangible that is all but impervious in value to what the stock market does. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : Gunny Date : 12-06-2018 08:43 PM The DOW has fully recovered... https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/06/investing/stock-market-today-dow-jones-huawei/index.html But what you need to understand about these massive panic maneuvers with the big dips and swings is, it's COMPUTER ALGORITHMS DOING IT. A COMPUTER is doing the SELLING, and then PEOPLE FREAK OUT. I wouldn't invest in some maniacal money exchanging fest run by computers if you gave the initial investment. I'd buy LAND or GOLD or something else tangible that is all but impervious in value to what the stock market does.Has Pete recovered from the recovery? :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Author : aboutime Date : 12-06-2018 08:49 PM Title : Mr. Negativity petey...bought stocks in Washington DC swamp water for the Cesspool https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/nasdaq-gains-wild-stock-market-session/ Nasdaq Rallies To A Gain After A Wild Ride In The Stock Market FacebookTwitterLinkedInShare Licensing NANCY GONDO4:27 PM ET The stock market closed Thursday in much better shape than at the open, following a wild trading session. Indexes plunged sharply at the start, triggered by U.S.-China trade concerns stemming from a Dec. 1 arrest of China's Huawei Technologies' CFO. But they pared their losses considerably into the close, with the tech-heavy Nasdaq composite reversing to a moderate gain. The Nasdaq finished 0.4% higher, after slumping as much as 2.4% early in the session. The S&P 500 and Dow Jones industrial average gave up 0.2% and 0.3%, respectively. Small caps lagged a bit with the Russell 2000 down 0.4%. Volume was higher on both the NYSE and Nasdaq vs. Tuesday, according to preliminary data. The stock market was closed Wednesday in honor of late President George H.W. Bush. Big-cap techs on the Dow Jones industrial average were among the few blue chip gainers as Intel (INTC), Cisco (CSCO), IBM (IBM) and Microsoft (MSFT) advanced. Apple (AAPL), however, didn't participate in the tech stock upside. The iPhone maker gapped down and fell 1.1% as it tries to find a bottom near 170. Apple remains under pressure amid ongoing concerns about iPhone sales for the holiday quarter. It's now 25% off its early October high and 10% below its 200-day moving average. An E Accumulation/Distribution Rating and Up/Down Volume Ratio below 1 indicate weak demand and more recent selling by mutual funds. Big banks, discount retailers and oil stocks were among the biggest sector losers in the stock market today. Financials stumbled as the 10-year Treasury yield fell 5 basis points to 2.86%. The oil sector took a drubbing as West Texas intermediate crude oil prices sank 2% to below $52 a barrel. JPMorgan (JPM), down more than 2%, was one of the Dow's biggest losers. Other big decliners included Boeing (BA), Exxon Mobil (XOM) and Chevron (CVX), down a respective 3%, 1.6% and 1.2%. Software Rises In Stock Market Today Software, homebuilder and internet stocks bucked the sell-off. In the security software space, CyberArk Software (CYBR) surged 5% to retake its 50-day moving average, while Palo Alto Networks (PANW) rose 3%. In the video game software field, Activision Blizzard (ATVI) and Electronic Arts (EA) advanced more than 3% each. CyberArk also topped the IBD 50 list of leading stocks. Edwards Lifesciences (EW), ServiceNow (NOW) and Alarm.com (ALRM) followed with gains of more than 2% each. But some health care related names suffered sharp losses. Supernus Pharmaceuticals (SUPN) gapped down and plunged 12%. HealthEquity (HQY) sank 11% to gap down below its 200-day line. The Innovator IBD 50 ETF (FFTY) pared a steep early loss to a 0.6% deficit. It ended near its session high. IBD Newsletters Get exclusive IBD analysis and action news daily. SIGN UP NOW! YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE: After Hours: Two IBD 50 Stocks Lead Notable Earnings Movers This Top Growth Stock Holds Up Amid Stock Market Sell-Off IBD 50 Stocks To Watch: Kirkland Gold Sets Up For Possible Breakout Subscription Services Draw Companies Closer To Customers -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Author : Gunny Date : 12-06-2018 09:16 PM https://www.investors.com/market-trend/stock-market-today/nasdaq-gains-wild-stock-market-session/ Nasdaq Rallies To A Gain After A Wild Ride In The Stock Market FacebookTwitterLinkedInShare Licensing NANCY GONDO4:27 PM ET The stock market closed Thursday in much better shape than at the open, following a wild trading session. Indexes plunged sharply at the start, triggered by U.S.-China trade concerns stemming from a Dec. 1 arrest of China's Huawei Technologies' CFO. But they pared their losses considerably into the close, with the tech-heavy Nasdaq composite reversing to a moderate gain. The Nasdaq finished 0.4% higher, after slumping as much as 2.4% early in the session. The S&P 500 and Dow Jones industrial average gave up 0.2% and 0.3%, respectively. Small caps lagged a bit with the Russell 2000 down 0.4%. Volume was higher on both the NYSE and Nasdaq vs. Tuesday, according to preliminary data. The stock market was closed Wednesday in honor of late President George H.W. Bush. Big-cap techs on the Dow Jones industrial average were among the few blue chip gainers as Intel (INTC), Cisco (CSCO), IBM (IBM) and Microsoft (MSFT) advanced. Apple (AAPL), however, didn't participate in the tech stock upside. The iPhone maker gapped down and fell 1.1% as it tries to find a bottom near 170. Apple remains under pressure amid ongoing concerns about iPhone sales for the holiday quarter. It's now 25% off its early October high and 10% below its 200-day moving average. An E Accumulation/Distribution Rating and Up/Down Volume Ratio below 1 indicate weak demand and more recent selling by mutual funds. Big banks, discount retailers and oil stocks were among the biggest sector losers in the stock market today. Financials stumbled as the 10-year Treasury yield fell 5 basis points to 2.86%. The oil sector took a drubbing as West Texas intermediate crude oil prices sank 2% to below $52 a barrel. JPMorgan (JPM), down more than 2%, was one of the Dow's biggest losers. Other big decliners included Boeing (BA), Exxon Mobil (XOM) and Chevron (CVX), down a respective 3%, 1.6% and 1.2%. Software Rises In Stock Market Today Software, homebuilder and internet stocks bucked the sell-off. In the security software space, CyberArk Software (CYBR) surged 5% to retake its 50-day moving average, while Palo Alto Networks (PANW) rose 3%. In the video game software field, Activision Blizzard (ATVI) and Electronic Arts (EA) advanced more than 3% each. CyberArk also topped the IBD 50 list of leading stocks. Edwards Lifesciences (EW), ServiceNow (NOW) and Alarm.com (ALRM) followed with gains of more than 2% each. But some health care related names suffered sharp losses. Supernus Pharmaceuticals (SUPN) gapped down and plunged 12%. HealthEquity (HQY) sank 11% to gap down below its 200-day line. The Innovator IBD 50 ETF (FFTY) pared a steep early loss to a 0.6% deficit. It ended near its session high. IBD Newsletters Get exclusive IBD analysis and action news daily. SIGN UP NOW! YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE: After Hours: Two IBD 50 Stocks Lead Notable Earnings Movers This Top Growth Stock Holds Up Amid Stock Market Sell-Off IBD 50 Stocks To Watch: Kirkland Gold Sets Up For Possible Breakout Subscription Services Draw Companies Closer To CustomersOkay, it's Gunny's usual dumb question time though it seems reasonable to me. Could the Christmas season by chance have anything to do with this? Stands to reason to me that with everyone losing their minds shopping after Thanksgiving, there might be a lull in the storm before the rest of us (last minute guys :) ) swing into gear. Still have to hit the gas station post-Thanksgiving as well. Just wondering. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Author : High_Plains_Drifter Date : 12-06-2018 09:19 PM Indexes plunged sharply at the start, triggered by U.S.-China trade concerns stemming from a Dec. 1 arrest of China's Huawei Technologies' CFO. Statements like that ...^^^... (not pointing a finger at AT, I mean from the article)... are what's so DISHONEST about the media, aka, the democrat propaganda wing. The huge SELL OFF was NOT "triggered" by US, China trade concerns. It was TRIGGERED by freakin' COMPUTERS!! Had a COMPUTER not been TRIGGERED by the algorithms ENTERED INTO IT, no one would have given a DAMN about the US, China trade concerns. In fact, the US and China had announced a NINETY DAY TARIFF TRUCE, and just today added that talks were going very well and they expect to have a deal long before the ninety days are up. I haven't watched the news now in the morning for a few WEEKS, and the only news I watch at night is the local news, and I know to turn that on about 10 minutes into it just to catch the local weather. I'm getting my NEWS from here, and twitter, and what I see in advertisements of coming stories on TV here and there... and ya know what... I think I'm enjoying myself more not listening to all that PATHETIC OPINION and HYPER PARTISAN HACK SPIN. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 13] Author : Gunny Date : 12-06-2018 09:25 PM Statements like that ...^^^... (not pointing a finger at AT, I mean from the article)... are what's so DISHONEST about the media, aka, the democrat propaganda wing. The huge SELL OFF was NOT "triggered" by US, China trade concerns. It was TRIGGERED by freakin' COMPUTERS!! Had a COMPUTER not been TRIGGERED by the algorithms ENTERED INTO IT, no one would have given a DAMN about the US, China trade concerns. In fact, the US and China had announced a NINETY DAY TARIFF TRUCE, and just today added that talks were going very well and they expect to have a deal long before the ninety days are up. I haven't watched the news now in the morning for a few WEEKS, and the only news I watch at night is the local news, and I know to turn that on about 10 minutes into it just to catch the local weather. I'm getting my NEWS from here, and twitter, and what I see in advertisements of coming stories on TV here and there... and ya know what... I think I'm enjoying myself more not listening to all that PATHETIC OPINION and HYPER PARTISAN HACK SPIN.I don't have much option. Little Mr Man wants his damned "Baby First Club" shit on and could care less about the news. And he will stand there chattering gibberish, scolding me if it isn't what he wants on :laugh: I graze over the news. Looks to me like nothing more than beating the same dead horse since Thanksgiving. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 14] Author : Elessar Date : 12-06-2018 11:36 PM Where is Pete now, since the recovery has been made? Sucking his thumb in a corner again for opening his mouth before letting facts engage and penetrate his narrow mind?:laugh: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 15] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 10:44 AM Where is Pete now, since the recovery has been made? Sucking his thumb in a corner again for opening his mouth before letting facts engage and penetrate his narrow mind?:laugh: What recovery? Please do tell because I see red yesterday and today and we've made no gains this year. #winning? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 16] Author : Gunny Date : 12-07-2018 10:53 AM What recovery? Please do tell because I see red yesterday and today and we've made no gains this year. #winning?Quit looking at your rep count. #winning? No. You're not :laugh: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 17] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 10:57 AM No. You're not :laugh: It was sarcasm at your expense... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 18] Author : Abbey Marie Date : 12-07-2018 11:12 AM You pop up only when you think you have something negative to post about Trump and other Republicans. I’m starting to think of you as “Bad News Pete”. You (deliberately?) have no understanding of how the market works. If you and your ilk get your way and the Dems are in charge again, you will apparently be taken by surprise by how quickly this country will fall apart. How you cannot see the total unsustainability of Dem policies is crazy. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 19] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 11:18 AM You pop up only when you think you have something negative to post about Trump and other Republicans. I’m starting to think of you as “Bad News Pete”. You (deliberately?) have no understanding of how the market works. If you and your ilk get your way and the Dems are in charge again, you will apparently be taken by surprise by how quickly this country will fall apart. How you cannot see the total unsustainability of Dem policies is crazy. And when was the last critical thread about Trump made from someone other than me, eh? No gains this year... please market god tell me the error of my ways and how that is actually a good thing? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 20] Author : Gunny Date : 12-07-2018 11:18 AM It was sarcasm at your expense...Not mine, buddy. Let's rewind back a few months and quite a lot of mistakes made by you where you stated you resented paying MY military retirement. So let's compare investments. I invest 21 years of my blood, sweat and tears for a retirement check, like most people. I get that retirement check on the 1st of every month provided I am still breathing. Doesn't matter who's President, if the economy is f*cked like it was under Obama or clicking like it is under Trump. The stock market could go "BOOM!" and *I* still get paid. The US Government and the nation itself has to fail before I don't. Did I mention my medical is unlimited and about 1/10 the cost of yours FOR LIFE? I go to sick call on base and there's not even a co-pay. You on the other hand have to get up and check your panties every morning, gambling on your future. One day you're rich, the next you're f*cked. So who made the wiser decision? Joke's on YOU, buddy. Have a nice day :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 21] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 11:26 AM Not mine, buddy. Let's rewind back a few months and quite a lot of mistakes made by you where you stated you resented paying MY military retirement. So let's compare investments. I invest 21 years of my blood, sweat and tears for a retirement check, like most people. I get that retirement check on the 1st of every month provided I am still breathing. Doesn't matter who's President, if the economy is f*cked like it was under Obama or clicking like it is under Trump. The stock market could go "BOOM!" and *I* still get paid. The US Government and the nation itself has to fail before I don't. Did I mention my medical is unlimited and about 1/10 the cost of yours FOR LIFE? I go to sick call on base and there's not even a co-pay. You on the other hand have to get up and check your panties every morning, gambling on your future. One day you're rich, the next you're f*cked. So who made the wiser decision? Joke's on YOU, buddy. Have a nice day :) You mean your military welfare? Don't get me wrong, you deserve it, but it's welfare that I am paying. You are welcome :salute: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 22] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 11:37 AM The stock market on the day Trump signed the tax bill: 24,754. The stock market today, nearly a year later: 24,480.That's a decrease of 1.1% since the tax bill was signed. And in the meantime, the US debt is exploding at an even more unsustainable rate. But ya'll stopped caring about the national debt a long time ago. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 23] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 11:43 AM US Atlanta Fed GDPNow Q4: 2.4% (prev 2.7%) What happened to 3% promise? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 24] Author : Gunny Date : 12-07-2018 11:47 AM You mean your military welfare? Don't get me wrong, you deserve it, but it's welfare that I am paying. You are welcome :salute:Not welfare, Pete. I entered into an agreement with a corporation that has a retirement plan in return for my services. Same as anyone else. If you don't like the opportunities provided by the US Government, write 'em and tell 'em. Was a toss up between that and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, a leftwingnut, corrupt labor union that also offers a retirement plan for life. And I had the "in" with the "good ol' boys" so it wouldn't have been that tough a road. Either way I earned what I have. Welfare is unearned. Just another Friday morning fail for you, Pete. You must be used to them by now? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 25] Author : Noir Date : 12-07-2018 12:26 PM Where is Pete now, since the recovery has been made? Sucking his thumb in a corner again for opening his mouth before letting facts engage and penetrate his narrow mind?:laugh: Over what time period are you showing a recovery? Over 1 day, 5 days, 1 month, and 1 year the numbers are low and mostly in the negative. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 26] Author : High_Plains_Drifter Date : 12-07-2018 12:50 PM All those record stock market highs under President Trump should all just be ignored I guess... https://www.thebalance.com/dow-jones-closing-history-top-highs-and-lows-since-1929-3306174 Still, even setting those records, maybe President Trump should artificially inflate the stock market by pumping $85,000,000,000.00 a month into it like the little lop eared kenyan dog turd obama did. Then people could forget about that too... oh wait... they'd hold that against Trump because he's not a mongrel democrat. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 27] Author : Abbey Marie Date : 12-07-2018 01:17 PM And when was the last critical thread about Trump made from someone other than me, eh? No gains this year... please market god tell me the error of my ways and how that is actually a good thing? That’s “Godess”, thank you. ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 28] Author : Kathianne Date : 12-07-2018 01:52 PM Over what time period are you showing a recovery? Over 1 day, 5 days, 1 month, and 1 year the numbers are low and mostly in the negative. Actually that isn't so for the year, https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI?p=^DJI While the President is far from my cup of tea, he can not actually be credited or blamed for the economy-though they always are. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 29] Author : Noir Date : 12-07-2018 01:59 PM Title : Winning economy down 1500pts in 2 days Actually that isn't so for the year, https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI?p=^DJI While the President is far from my cup of tea, he can not actually be credited or blamed for the economy-though they always are. I would consider 14451 from 14329 to be low as I mentioned in my post - and certainly not a clear defined ‘recovery’ as has been talked about in this thread. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 30] Author : Black Diamond Date : 12-07-2018 02:18 PM You mean your military welfare? Don't get me wrong, you deserve it, but it's welfare that I am paying. You are welcome :salute: Gunny and others on the board have made decisions you and I can't even contemplate. So take your "you're welcome" and shove it up your ass. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 31] Author : Tyr-Ziu Saxnot Date : 12-07-2018 02:19 PM The stock market on the day Trump signed the tax bill: 24,754. The stock market today, nearly a year later: 24,480.That's a decrease of 1.1% since the tax bill was signed. And in the meantime, the US debt is exploding at an even more unsustainable rate. But ya'll stopped caring about the national debt a long time ago. Pete , do you wail at the tides going up(rising high tide)and then back down? Up and down is the name of the game, yet you act as if any correction, any fall is a horrendous catastrophe ! Does Trump crank the up and down gear ? Good grief Charlie Brown, you are either very naive, or else pretending to be so, in order to, rail like a whimpering child against the monster behemoth named President Donald Trump!--Tyr -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 32] Author : Black Diamond Date : 12-07-2018 02:20 PM Pete , do you wail at the tides going up(rising high tide)and then back down? Up and down is the name of the game, yet you act as if any correction, any fall is a horrendous catastrophe ! Does Trump crank the up and down gear ? Good grief Charlie Brown, you are either very naive, or else pretending to be so, in order to, rail like a whimpering child against the monster behemoth named President Donald Trump!--Tyr Charlie Brown. :laugh: we keep pulling the football like Lucy. And Pete keeps falling for it. :laugh: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 33] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 02:27 PM Actually that isn't so for the year, https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI?p=^DJI While the President is far from my cup of tea, he can not actually be credited or blamed for the economy-though they always are. uh, isn't Trump's great economy and business deals the reason he was voted in? If Trump can't effect the economy why the fuck is he there? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 34] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 02:28 PM Charlie Brown. :laugh: we keep pulling the football like Lucy. And Pete keeps falling for it. :laugh: Keep reading cartoons little boy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 35] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 02:29 PM Pete , do you wail at the tides going up(rising high tide)and then back down? Up and down is the name of the game, yet you act as if any correction, any fall is a horrendous catastrophe ! Does Trump crank the up and down gear ? Good grief Charlie Brown, you are either very naive, or else pretending to be so, in order to, rail like a whimpering child against the monster behemoth named President Donald Trump!--Tyr So Trump is not responsible for the 5k in increase in the dow since his inauguration, got it. thank you. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 36] Author : jimnyc Date : 12-07-2018 02:32 PM Pete , do you wail at the tides going up(rising high tide)and then back down? Up and down is the name of the game, yet you act as if any correction, any fall is a horrendous catastrophe ! Does Trump crank the up and down gear ? Good grief Charlie Brown, you are either very naive, or else pretending to be so, in order to, rail like a whimpering child against the monster behemoth named President Donald Trump!--Tyr Yups. And the fact that he is up altogether since his election. The market rises and falls for many reasons. We'll see in the long run. As the "long run" stands right now - he's well up and I have $$$ to prove it since then! :) :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 37] Author : Black Diamond Date : 12-07-2018 02:33 PM uh, isn't Trump's great economy and business deals the reason he was voted in? If Trump can't effect the economy why the fuck is he there? To make you cry. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 38] Author : Black Diamond Date : 12-07-2018 02:37 PM So Trump is not responsible for the 5k in increase in the dow since his inauguration, got it. thank you. It increased because the market was anticipating tax cuts. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 39] Author : jimnyc Date : 12-07-2018 02:40 PM To make you cry. You could have pointed out unemployment, job creations, stock market... and him with his supposed poor GDP of 2.7 - that comes from someone who ignored the many times the success of the GDP has been posted. And if Obama left us at 1.2 - why didn't little boy make a thread to complain back then? One word - troll. He WAITS and TRIES to capitalize on negativity or misfortune towards Trump - and is thus far batting about .000 with every such started thread has failed miserably. GDP: President Trump entered office amid what appeared to be a dangerously slowing economy, with just 1.2% growth in the first quarter of 2017. But growth immediately picked up, rising to 3.1% in the second quarter, 3.2% in the third quarter, and, based on recent data, 3% or higher in the final quarter of 2017 — making the longest stretch of 3%-plus GDP growth since 2005. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 40] Author : Black Diamond Date : 12-07-2018 02:49 PM You could have pointed out unemployment, job creations, stock market... and him with his supposed poor GDP of 2.7 - that comes from someone who ignored the many times the success of the GDP has been posted. And if Obama left us at 1.2 - why didn't little boy make a thread to complain back then? One word - troll. He WAITS and TRIES to capitalize on negativity or misfortune towards Trump - and is thus far batting about .000 with every such started thread has failed miserably. I could have. But he won't listen because it's trump. I mentioned the anticipation of tax cuts making the stock market go up a year or two ago. I'm sure he'll say that was residual from the wonderful Prince Obama. The residual which clearly just ended this week. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 41] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 02:52 PM I just want to be clear so we are on the same page. Trump is only responsible for the good parts of the economy and if there is weakness, it's not in his control. Ooops did I forget to mention the national debt? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 42] Author : Black Diamond Date : 12-07-2018 02:57 PM I just want to be clear so we are on the same page. Trump is only responsible for the good parts of the economy and if there is weakness, it's not in his control. Ooops did I forget to mention the national debt? You forgot to mention it for 8 years when Obama was president. I guess you weren't paying attention when trump supporters on here were pissed at trump for signing the budget. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 43] Author : jimnyc Date : 12-07-2018 03:13 PM You forgot to mention it for 8 years when Obama was president. I guess you weren't paying attention when trump supporters on here were pissed at trump for signing the budget. Simply click on his profile and then click on started threads... while he doesn't like the way some of us approve/disapprove of certain things on the right - I couldn't find ONE SINGLE thread condemning Obama or anyone on the left for anything at all. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 44] Author : pete311 Date : 12-07-2018 03:23 PM Simply click on his profile and then click on started threads... while he doesn't like the way some of us approve/disapprove of certain things on the right - I couldn't find ONE SINGLE thread condemning Obama or anyone on the left for anything at all. I condemned Clinton and you know that! Generally I let you guys bash the left and then I counter balance. You know that too. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 45] Author : jimnyc Date : 12-07-2018 03:33 PM Oh, and look here, today's headline. So much for the atrocious economy by all indicators. Record 156,795,000 Employed in USA, 13th Record-Breaker Under Trump (CNSNews.com) - The November employment report, released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, shows the economy added 150,000 jobs, well below the (revised) 237,000 added last month. But the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent for the third month in a row; and the number of employed Americans once again reached an all-time high of 156,795,000, the 13th record since Donald Trump became president. Wages continued rising as well: In November, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls rose by 6 cents to $27.35. Over the year, average hourly earnings have increased by 81 cents, or 3.1 percent. https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/156795000-employed-americans-13th-record-breaker-under-trump -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 46] Author : Gunny Date : 12-07-2018 04:02 PM I condemned Clinton and you know that! Generally I let you guys bash the left and then I counter balance. You know that too.Sure. Condemnation: "I'm not a fan of Hillary, but ... (insert deflection) ... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 47] Author : Gunny Date : 12-07-2018 04:05 PM Oh, and look here, today's headline. So much for the atrocious economy by all indicators. Record 156,795,000 Employed in USA, 13th Record-Breaker Under Trump (CNSNews.com) - The November employment report, released today by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, shows the economy added 150,000 jobs, well below the (revised) 237,000 added last month. But the unemployment rate held steady at 3.7 percent for the third month in a row; and the number of employed Americans once again reached an all-time high of 156,795,000, the 13th record since Donald Trump became president. Wages continued rising as well: In November, average hourly earnings for all employees on private nonfarm payrolls rose by 6 cents to $27.35. Over the year, average hourly earnings have increased by 81 cents, or 3.1 percent. https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/156795000-employed-americans-13th-record-breaker-under-trumpI have to say I am impressed there are more job vacancies than unemployed people. Now go see my thread on Millinnials applying for jobs :laugh: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 48] Author : High_Plains_Drifter Date : 12-07-2018 04:59 PM PRESIDENT Trump... get that... PRESIDENT... Trump...is doing an overall GREAT job. You have to really be a nitpicking little hemorrhoid to dig up LITTLE things you can blame on him that isn't STELLAR. Jim has posted THREAD after THREAD after THREAD after THREAD about the great things he's done since he took office, and oh my, it was just AAAAALLL IGNORED by the ANGRY little mongrel demtard RAT PRICK troll. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 49] Author : Gunny Date : 12-07-2018 05:32 PM PRESIDENT Trump... get that... PRESIDENT... Trump...is doing an overall GREAT job. You have to really be a nitpicking little hemorrhoid to dig up LITTLE things you can blame on him that isn't STELLAR. Jim has posted THREAD after THREAD after THREAD after THREAD about the great things he's done since he took office, and oh my, it was just AAAAALLL IGNORED by the ANGRY little mongrel demtard RAT PRICK troll."Nitpicking" hits the nail on the head. Notice how Pete's great, "A-HA!" moments usually amount to a fizzled out sparkler? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 50] Author : High_Plains_Drifter Date : 12-07-2018 05:55 PM "Nitpicking" hits the nail on the head. Notice how Pete's great, "A-HA!" moments usually amount to a fizzled out sparkler? Been noticing that since I saw his first post... :rolleyes: He's a troll, and not a very smart one at that. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 51] Author : NightTrain Date : 12-07-2018 06:02 PM Well, Petey, would you like to make a side bet? I'll wager $50 payable to the board that all the losses suffered this week will be erased by the end of the month. My money is on Trump's economy. The funny thing about you loons is that you immediately squawk when the market does it's usual adjustments & corrections, shriek about how we're doomed, and a couple weeks later it's like nothing ever happened. I'll dig up a pretty funny post from your Hero & mine, OCA, when Trump was unexpectedly (by most) elected President. Yeah, he was shitting himself trying to sell everything because we were DOOOOMED!!one1! 2 days later the stock market shattered records for how many months? You seriously have to have a few bolts loose if you don't recognize what Trump's policies have done to unleash our economic potential - even if he got a few notes wrong, the performance can't be denied. I find it very funny that 0bama has been whining that it was his policies - somehow - that we should thank. This from the idiot that proclaimed that 1.2% is the 'new normal' GDP and that manufacturing jobs are a thing of the past, you peasants, get used to it. I'm even willing to do this despite the fact that there's a very real chance the Government will shut down over the border wall funding fight in December. That's how generous I am. So let's do this, Pete. $50 to Jim for board expenses. The deadline is the end of the business New Year's Eve to recover everything we lost this week in the DOW. What's in it for you? Why, I'll make a post and pin it in the Lounge, acknowledging that you were right and I was wrong. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 52] Author : High_Plains_Drifter Date : 12-07-2018 06:11 PM I find it very funny that 0bama has been whining that it was his policies - somehow - that we should thank. This from the idiot that proclaimed that 1.2% is the 'new normal' GDP and that manufacturing jobs are a thing of the past, you peasants, get used to it. The kenyan: "those jobs just aren't coming back." But, PRESIDENT Trump must have had that "magic wand" the kenyan thought it would take to bring those jobs back, and now he wants to TAKE CREDIT FOR IT... and IDIOTS like little pete just swallow that horse dung like it's gospel... https://image.ibb.co/jTtF0V/ASSCLOWN.jpg -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 53] Author : jimnyc Date : 01-04-2019 05:47 PM Yet ANOTHER 'take a dump' jumping on Trump, failing once again. How many times do people need to prematurely dance on the failure of another, only to see that person continually prevail over and over again. I can only imagine how Rosie must feel. LOL But she needs to take it like a champ and deal with it, as some would say. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 54] Author : Black Diamond Date : 01-04-2019 05:50 PM Yet ANOTHER 'take a dump' jumping on Trump, failing once again. How many times do people need to prematurely dance on the failure of another, only to see that person continually prevail over and over again. I can only imagine how Rosie must feel. LOL But she needs to take it like a champ and deal with it, as some would say. He didn't learn his lesson November 8 2016 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 55] Author : jimnyc Date : 01-04-2019 05:53 PM He didn't lesrn his lesson November 8 2016 Chwoof Dat! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 56] Author : Gunny Date : 01-04-2019 05:53 PM Well, Petey, would you like to make a side bet? I'll wager $50 payable to the board that all the losses suffered this week will be erased by the end of the month. My money is on Trump's economy. The funny thing about you loons is that you immediately squawk when the market does it's usual adjustments & corrections, shriek about how we're doomed, and a couple weeks later it's like nothing ever happened. I'll dig up a pretty funny post from your Hero & mine, OCA, when Trump was unexpectedly (by most) elected President. Yeah, he was shitting himself trying to sell everything because we were DOOOOMED!!one1! 2 days later the stock market shattered records for how many months? You seriously have to have a few bolts loose if you don't recognize what Trump's policies have done to unleash our economic potential - even if he got a few notes wrong, the performance can't be denied. I find it very funny that 0bama has been whining that it was his policies - somehow - that we should thank. This from the idiot that proclaimed that 1.2% is the 'new normal' GDP and that manufacturing jobs are a thing of the past, you peasants, get used to it. I'm even willing to do this despite the fact that there's a very real chance the Government will shut down over the border wall funding fight in December. That's how generous I am. So let's do this, Pete. $50 to Jim for board expenses. The deadline is the end of the business New Year's Eve to recover everything we lost this week in the DOW. What's in it for you? Why, I'll make a post and pin it in the Lounge, acknowledging that you were right and I was wrong.I'm still waiting on THIS .... My PC must be messed up though. I don't seem to be able to find Pete's response ...:smoke: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 57] Author : Black Diamond Date : 01-04-2019 06:09 PM I'm still waiting on THIS .... My PC must be messed up though. I don't seem to be able to find Pete's response ...:smoke: Hope you have a full pack. :laugh: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 58] Author : pete311 Date : 01-04-2019 07:30 PM I've already stated a couple weeks ago I thought the stock market was an overreaction and that it would rebound in 2019. So nice try at a gotcha. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 59] Author : Gunny Date : 01-04-2019 07:46 PM Thread: Winning economy down 1500pts in 2 days (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?65019-Winning-economy-down-1500pts-in-2-days) I've already stated a couple weeks ago I thought the stock market was an overreaction and that it would rebound in 2019. So nice try at a gotcha. :slap: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 60] Author : aboutime Date : 01-04-2019 07:49 PM Title : petey's still showing his competitive edge with a Box of Rocks. I've already stated a couple weeks ago I thought the stock market was an overreaction and that it would rebound in 2019. So nice try at a gotcha. The only one who is enjoying the GOTCHA is petey. Everybody else just rolls their eyes, and laughs at how changing to 2019 hasn't improved petey's mental disorder at all. Trump Derangement is a terrible thing for him, and millions of other Un-minded Snowflakes. Better luck next year petey. The cure is coming. Keep it in hand. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 61] Author : jimnyc Date : 01-04-2019 08:25 PM I've already stated a couple weeks ago I thought the stock market was an overreaction and that it would rebound in 2019. So nice try at a gotcha. Yes, yes you did. But you also started this thread mocking with the "winning economy" and your #winning stuff, also mockingly. So I think pointing out that this thread was what you yourself would call a "nothingburger" was in order. Mocking coming full circle is funny to me. The winning economy is just that, and then some!! And the "#winning" is just that as well, and that includes the Dow, which was the subject of this thread. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 62] Author : KarlMarx Date : 01-07-2019 06:02 PM Title : Winning economy down 1500pts in 2 days The economy is doing well ... no thanks to Obama. GDP growth for 3Q 2018 clocked in at 3.4 percent, well above anything Obama was able to muster Unemployment rate (U2) is at 3.9 percent. Lower than anything under Obama Stock market woes due in part to CHINA’s slowing economy, not ours. Time for Dems to eat crow, Trump’s economic policies work They could be Democrat economic policies, too, but Pride comes before Destruction Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 63] Author : Gunny Date : 01-09-2019 08:29 PM I'm still waiting on Jim's post that Pete put his money where that gaping, drooling maw on front of his face is ...:whistling2: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 64] Author : LongTermGuy Date : 01-09-2019 08:49 PM I'm still waiting on Jim's post that Pete put his money where that gaping, drooling maw on front of his face is ...:whistling2: :laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuABhumm6fY -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Debate Policy - Political Message Board (http://www.debatepolicy.com) at 03-29-2024 12:34 AM.