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			<title>Military and religion</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 01:03:06 GMT</pubDate>
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			<b>Robert:</b> For years, Don and I have spoken back and forth via e mail. We met on an AOL forum when Bill Clinton was president.  Don served as a high ranking officer in the Air Force and retired to work as an executive for a company. Anyway Don has a guest column in the paper and I hope you all enjoy his words as much as I do.
			
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<b>DON GILLELAND</b> <br />
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<span style="font-family: Arial"><b><div style="text-align: center;">Muzzling our military</div></b><br />
<div style="text-align: center;"><font size="2">Right to express religious beliefs should be sacrosanct</font> </div><br />
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Is the U.S. government muzzling our military, despite First Amendment rights to free speech? There is considerable evidence</span><span style="font-family: Arial"> it is.</span><span style="font-family: Arial">Historically, men and women in uniform have been expected to give up some of their basic rights. For instance, the government says they cannot participate in partisan politics while in uniform, because it implies government sanction of whatever party they endorse.</span></span><br />
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Confusing government pronouncements recently suggested those in uniform can’t share their religious beliefs with anyone. A Pentagon policy stated “religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense.” Another statement said, “Members are free to express their personal beliefs as long as it does not make others uncomfortable.”<br />
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Yet, the government does not explain where the line is between proselytization and sharing one’s beliefs. Uncomfortable</span><span style="font-family: Arial"> is very subjective, and Tony Perkins’ Washington Update says evangelism is not included in the government’s definition of proselytization.<br />
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How is a service member to know what is and is not permissible? Perkins said the concerns stated by Christians in the military are the result of an environment of increasing religious hostility that has been created by restrictive regulations at the behest of activists such as Mikey Weinstein.<br />
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Weinstein, founder and president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, is believed to be a Pentagon consultant helping develop new policies on religious tolerance, including a policy for courtmartialing military chaplains who share the Christian Gospel while counseling American troops.<br />
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In a speech at a National Day of Prayer observance in Washington, D.C., Coast Guard Rear Adm. William Lee spoke about the growing religious hostility in the military and restrictive religious liberty regulations. He said: “I am not a chaplain. I wouldn’t even describe myself as a religious man. I am nothing more than a sinner in a sailor’s suit.</span><span style="font-family: Arial"> But I am a man of deep and abiding faith, who happens to be wearing a uniform.”<br />
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He explained that military men and women do not give up their constitutional right to express their religious beliefs. “They expect us to check our religion at the door.” When faced with the need to counsel a young man who had earlier considered committing suicide, Lee said: “The rules said, send him to the chaplain. My heart said, give this young man a Bible.”<br />
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Senior leaders like Lee are vulnerable to political attacks for expressing their faith, for crossing an invisible line that makes them vulnerable to such attacks. Lee said he is glad he has crossed that line so many times. “I will not run from my right under the Constitution to tell a young man that there is hope,” Lee said, adding the Bible provides that hope.<br />
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He finished by asking the audience to pray for the right of military members to continue expressing their religious beliefs. He said it is not a religious issue; it is an American issue.</span><span style="font-family: Arial"> <br />
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<b>Gilleland, an Evangelical Christian, is retired and lives in Suntree.</b></span></span><br />
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			<title>Sergeant Raped in Afghanistan Found Nowhere to Go</title>
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			As the only woman in her bomb-disposal unit in Afghanistan, Army Sergeant Rebekah Havrilla said she had learned to endure sexual harassment from her team leader and contempt from the captain who commanded the unit.<br />
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Former U.S. Army Sergeant Rebekah Havrilla testifies about being sexually assaulted while in the military during a hearing March 13, 2013 in Washington, D.C. Photographer: Win McNamee/Getty Images<br />
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Service Women&#8217;s Action Network Executive Director Anu Bhagwati, also a former Marine captain and company commander, said that "today's military justice system is not professional." Photographer: Win McNamee/Getty Images<br />
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So when another service member raped her, she said, reporting the crime to her commanding officer was unthinkable.<br />
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&#8220;There was no way I was going to go to my commander,&#8221; Havrilla, who served in Afghanistan from 2006 to 2007, said in an interview. &#8220;He made it clear he didn&#8217;t like women.&#8221;<br />
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The reluctance of most victims to report crimes of sexual assault in the U.S. military goes to the heart of the uproar over such attacks, which President Barack Obama denounced last week as &#8220;shameful and disgraceful.&#8221;<br />
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Now a growing number of lawmakers, led by women in the House of Representatives and Senate, are demanding a change that military leaders have long considered anathema: letting independent military prosecutors, instead of commanding officers, pursue sexual assaults and other major crimes.<br />
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&#8220;Our system is broken,&#8221; said Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a New York Democrat and chief sponsor of a measure to wrest such cases away from military supervisors. &#8220;This is the only way we can provide the unbiased justice that our victims need.&#8221; <br />
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&#8220;I dealt with an abusive team leader for six months in Afghanistan,&#8221; she said in an interview. The sergeant first class &#8220;tried to pull me into his bed a couple of times, would slap my butt when I walked by if no one was around and one time tried to kiss and bite the back of my neck and put his hand in my shirt.&#8221;<br />
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The captain in command of the unit told other soldiers that he didn&#8217;t think women belonged there and seldom talked to her, Havrilla said.<br />
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About a week before she was due to return home, Havrilla said, she stopped by the room of an enlisted man who worked with a bomb dog to drop off some equipment she had borrowed.<br />
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&#8220;He grabbed me and threw me back on the bed,&#8221; she said. &#8220;I physically tried to leave and he physically restrained me. I told him &#8216;no&#8217; repeatedly.&#8221;<br />
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She eventually relented, she said, to avoid what she feared would be a beating.<br />
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&#8220;It&#8217;s hard to explain what goes through your head, but you do a risk assessment,&#8221; Havrilla said. &#8220;I didn&#8217;t want to get hurt. I wanted to get out of Afghanistan as much in one piece as I could.&#8221;<br />
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With no faith in the chain of command, Havrilla said, she filed only a &#8220;restricted&#8221; report, a move that entitled her to counseling without triggering an investigation or charges. After leaving active duty, she filed a second restricted report in February 2009, after running into her rapist at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri, where she was doing training for the Army Reserves.<br />
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Later that year, after a friend notified her that graphic pictures of her rape were posted online, Havrilla said she filed an unrestricted report. An investigation was conducted, though no charges resulted. ....
			
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			<title>Any able-bodied adult US citizen who lives in poverty does so by choice.</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 21:46:41 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>More islamic honor killings in Egypt</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 19:55:09 GMT</pubDate>
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			A mother and two daughters were allegedly killed by male relatives in  southern Egypt who believed they'd had affairs, the latest apparent  example of so-called "honor killings" in which women are slain for  violating traditional morals in the conservative region, a security  official said Friday.  Police believe the 10 men stormed the house of the women, strangling  them and beating them with sharp tools, the official said, based on the  alleged confession of one of the suspects. The men wrapped the women's  bodies in blankets, weighted them with stones and throw them in the  river Nile, the official added.<br />
  He said one of the men, arrested on Thursday, gave a detailed account  of the killings and said they were intended to protect the family's  honor.
			
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			<title>Xbox One</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 15:53:54 GMT</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Microsoft's reveal of the Xbox One was so good that it raised Sony's (Creator of the Playstation) stock by 8% in under 24 hours, and raised sales of the WiiU. How do you so badly fuck the reveal of a new game system up that you only manage to make your opponents stronger? Let me count the ways:<br />
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<b>It's not primarily a game system</b>- Microsoft put a huge amount into showing off the Xbox One as an all in one entertainment system, where you watch live TV, movies, listen to music, and everything else, while having no games to show for their game system in development. The closest they came was the announcement of a Halo animated series. Both the WiiU and PS4 came to the table with games to show for their systems.<br />
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<b>Online watchdogging</b>- Or better known as "Screw you, Child's Play Charity gaming tournaments." Okay, here's a brand new kind of fuckery: You <i>must, </i>to use your Xbox One for <i>anything</i>, be online at least once every 24 hours so it can verify your system. So basically, Xbox One decided that the military should not be able to access their games while underway. Military who, btw, have the highest degree of disposable income for video games and systems.<br />
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Yes, this includes single-player games that do not use online for their content. You would need online access to play <i>pong</i> by yourself.<br />
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<b>It's not your game</b>- You will no longer "own" your video games for the Xbox One. Instead, you'll pay $60+ to get the game, put in the disc, and enter a single-use passcode that attaches the game to <i>your</i> Xbox Live account. You cannot take Madden over to your buddies house so you can play out Steeler's versus Giants, unless your buddy is willing to payout $60+ to get the code himself, or if you set up your Xbox Live account on his console. <br />
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Both PS4 and WiiU are still having you own your games that you bought from them.<br />
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<b>Fuck you, Indy Devs</b>- While the WiiU and PS4 have been working to make themselves more easy to work with for Indy developers, Microsoft has gone the opposite direction, requiring any Indy developer to put their game under Microsoft Game Studios, or through another larger developer. Meanwhile, their competitors have <i>both</i> made it easier for Indies, granting them direct use of their online stores for selling their games, and even making so that they can patch the games online without cost.<br />
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It should be noted that the most rapidly expanding market in video games to day is the Indy market, making this all the more insane for Xbox to do.<br />
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<b>Kinect 2 is <i>not innovation</i></b>- So Microsoft has decided to double down on the Kinect interface, making it the main way to navigate the Xbox One's menus and such, and it does not ever turn off. The problem with this is that, since it is voice-controlled, you can easily end up turning on or off your Xbox in simple conversation. Both PS4 and WiiU are avoiding this, with the WiiU's tablet interface, and the PS4 using a touchpad that is hardwired into the controller. So yes, even trying to work the menu on the Xbox One is now retarded.<br />
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<b>Fuck you, GameStop</b>- In order to try and kill the used game market, Xbox One started that passcode nonsense mentioned earlier. Gone are the days when you could go into GameStop, buy a game used, and go home to play it. Even if you get the game from a friend, or buy it from GameStop, you must then also buy it from Microsoft to get the code to allow it to play on your system. And oh yeah, you do have to pay for that code as though it was a brand new game, period, as confirmed by Microsoft.<br />
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<b>Online Market</b>- Apparently, Xbox One is going to somehow do an online market through them where you can trade or transfer your games online, but they have no real details on the matter, not even whether it'll be in real world money, or Microsoft Points. Because we should all trust Microsoft, who have specifically designed their system to trust us to the lowest degree possible.</div>

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			<title>New York sheriffs voice opposition to strict gun law, seek to join lawsuit</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 14:50:43 GMT</pubDate>
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			The New York State Sheriffs' Association and five individual sheriffs  are asking U.S. District Judge William Skretny to add their position to  the record. They support gun rights advocates seeking to block  enforcement of new bullet limits for magazines and the tighter  definition of assault weapons.<br />
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  The sheriffs agree with the New York affiliate of the National Rifle  Association that the law, passed after the Newtown, Conn., school  shooting, is unconstitutional because it will prevent citizens from  keeping commonly used firearms for home defense.
			
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			<div style="text-align: left;"><font color="#000000">"The Supreme Court has confirmed that the Second Amendment protects arms  typically possessed by law-abiding citizens, and identified that the  right of self-defense is 'core' protected conduct that is at its zenith  in the home," the sheriffs' brief said. "At a minimum, laws that  criminalize the most common rifle in America today - a rifle that is  often selected precisely for its self-defense capabilities - impinge  upon that core right. The same is true of laws banning standard-capacity  magazines."</font></div>
			
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			The sheriffs argued that several provisions are also "fatally vague,"  measures that "law enforcement officers are inherently unable to fairly  and uniformly enforce." They urged the court to clarify "laws that will  inevitably require enforcement, via confiscation, incarceration, or  both, against otherwise law-abiding individuals attempting to exercise  fundamental rights."
			
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 14:48:03 GMT</pubDate>
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       <font size="2">Last week, Rep. Darrell Issa  and Sens. David Vitter, Chuck Grassley, and James Inhofe sent a letter  to EPA's Acting Administrator Bob Perciasepe regarding the Agency's  practice of frequently granting fee waivers for Freedom of Information  Act requests to national environmental groups, but rarely granting them  to conservative think tanks, States and local entities.  <a href="http://1.usa.gov/17GIRko" target="_blank">Click here to read Rep. Issa, Sen. Vitter, Sen. Grassley, and Sen. Inhofe's letter</a>. <b>Scroll down for news articles on the investigation.</b><br />
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  <font size="2">WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican lawmakers on Friday  began an investigation into whether the U.S. Environmental Protection  Agency greatly favored left-leaning environmentalists over conservative  groups when granting fee waivers for requests to access information.<br />
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  <font size="2">The lawmakers drew a comparison between the actions they  say the EPA has taken with the Internal Revenue Service, which is  embroiled in controversy over its targeting of conservative groups for  extra scrutiny.<br />
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  <font size="2">Republican Senators David Vitter of Louisiana, Charles  Grassley of Iowa and James Inhofe of Oklahoma, and Representative  Darrell Issa of California, raised the issue in a letter to the acting  administrator of the EPA.<br />
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  <font size="2">Agencies can waive fees for requested information if they  determine the information contributes to the public understanding of  governmental activities.<br />
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  <font size="2">"This disparate treatment is unacceptable, especially in  light of the recent controversy over abusive tactics at the Internal  Revenue Service, which singled out conservative groups for special  scrutiny," the lawmakers wrote in a letter to Bob Perciasepe, the EPA's  acting administrator.</font> <br />
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			<title>True The Vote Suing IRS and Individual Agents</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 14:34:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<b>True the Vote is not only <a href="http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/21/conservative-group-sues-irs-irs-employees-for-tax-status-damages/" target="_blank">suing</a>  the IRS, but also taking action against the IRS employees who  participated in the harassment of the voter education and election  monitoring organization. Those employees could personally be held liable  to pay damages that would be established in litigation.<br />
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 True the Votes’ lead counsel, Cleta Mitchell, explained in an email  to The Daily Caller that she does not know whether the employees, if  found to be liable in the lawsuit True the Vote filed against the IRS  and its employees Tuesday, would pay out of pocket or take other avenues  such as accessing union funds or homeowners insurance. Either way, she  noted, the group will pursue its action.<br />
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 “[T]heir unlawful actions caused my clients to have to come up with  the money to deal with their demands…out of their own personal finances…  They didn’t seem to worry / care about that,” Mitchell wrote to TheDC.  “Government employees never do care about the costs to private citizens  of their burdensome demands….”<br />
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 Founder and president of True the Vote Catherine Engelbrecht  explained in a conference call Thursday morning that in July of 2010 her  organization filed an application for tax exemption. The request has  been in limbo since then.<br />
 “During that time we have been subjected to multiple rounds of  questions, all told I would say in excess of several hundred questions  and thousands of documents provided back to the IRS,” she said. “With no  real end in sight.”<br />
 After her organization’s most recent round of questions following the  November 2012 elections, Engelbrecht said that she and Mitchell began  discussing other legal options.<br />
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 “That ultimately led us to a place where we felt like we had no other  options but to file suit against the IRS and to ask the courts to now  get involved to grant our long-awaited tax exempt status,” she said  adding she also hoped to reveal the IRS employees’ involvement in her  organization’s plight.<br />
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 True the Vote filed a <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/142784144/Filed-Complaint-True-the-Vote-v-IRS" target="_blank">lawsuit</a> against the IRS and some of its employees on Tuesday.<br />
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			<title>Lighting</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 13:37:38 GMT</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have been Awol for a couple days due to a storm that hit 4:30 am Sunday Morning and yes I was on the net at the time, we were having a major rain and a little thunder rumbling off in the distance when all of a sudden the loudest thunder and lighting at the same time hit , I immediately knew we had been hit I grabbed a little pen light flashlight( my kids need to use the good ones for one reason or another :rolleyes:) and  went outside but it was raining so hard I couldn't see anything , well when the sun came up ( or it got light anyway ) I went out and sure enough there was damage , My house is on a hill that goes down from the road all the way back and the guy I bought it from had leveled a area in the middle of my property to put the house but left the woods in the front maybe 15' from the front of the house , well it seems lighting hit a tree right in front of the house ( I knew this because it followed the root system down the hill and blew all the dirt off the root leaving a two foot ditch down the hill) it then went to the far right of my blowing the downspout ( for the gutters in half and while doing so throwing the concrete drain pad 10 feet or so from the house ) it then went under the house and came out at the opposite corner blowing my phone box out into the yard and frying the satellite connection box it then followed the phone line out to the road and fried  5 different things in as many boxes on the road , well we got the TV back on Monday and the phone on Tuesday man it could have been much worse but thank goodness for the grounds on those utilities or it would've followed it back into the house and yes I spoke to a member on the board here that does that kind of work and he agreed , But I thank God it wasn't worse it didn't cost a dime to get repaid ( well one down spout and a decorative splash pad ) but if this lighting had knocked the tree down , well lets just say we were very lucky !!</div>

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			<title>Consequences of eliminating the federal minimum wage.</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 11:16:02 GMT</pubDate>
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Elimination of the Federal Minimum Wage, (i.e. FMW) rate would be the ultimate reduction of that rate. In that case states with their own minimum wage laws would be denied a significant economic shield.</SPAN><br />
If the FMW were eliminated, the purchasing powers of all states legally enforced or market determined minimum wage rates would soon be reduced.</SPAN><br />
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Based only upon our current FMW rate of $7.25/Hr., my guesstimate is the local labor markets’ will drive their state governments’ or their markets’ determined variable legally unenforceable minimum wage rates down to a range (expressed in U.S. dollars of current purchasing power) from less than $2 and will rarely exceed $5.</SPAN><br />
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There are many job tasks that (in the employers’ opinions) do not justify the minimum rate but they now exist because their performance is necessary and/or is net profitable for the employers’ enterprises. These jobs will continue to exist but their wages purchasing powers will be substantially reduced.</SPAN><br />
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Although we’ve induced the creation of more jobs (with wages of much lesser purchasing powers), the less demanding tasks of these additional jobs and their wages lesser purchasing powers would increase our labor pool for such jobs. The increased labor pool will exceed the increased numbers of jobs. Our unemployment rate would (on paper) indicate increased rates of unemployment. In actuality, the nation’s unemployment rates will not <i>decrease.</i> </SPAN><br />
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Eliminating the FMW would reduce the proportion of our employees’ population’s middle income earners and increase the proportion of our employees’ lower income earners.</SPAN><br />
Currently a good portion, if not the majority of USA’s working poor are recipients of little or no public assistance. The reduction of employee earnings’ purchasing powers would increase public assistance rolls. Due to the reduction of wages and salaries purchasing powers, there’ll be more working poor and they will all require more pu</SPAN>blic assistance.</SPAN><br />
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Eliminating the FMW laws would be net economically detrimental to our nation.</SPAN><br />
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I’m a proponent of annually pegging the federal minimum wage to the purchasing power of the U.S. dollar. Social Security retirement benefits have for many years been annually adjusted to a federal cost price index; it been working exactly as it was intended to.</SPAN><br />
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			<title>Special Prosecutor Necessary</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 09:35:46 GMT</pubDate>
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			<b>Noonan: A Battering Ram Becomes a Stonewall</b><br /><br /><b>The IRS's leaders refuse to account for the agency's corruption and abuse.</b><br /><br />"I don't know." "I don't remember." "I'm not familiar with that  detail." "It's not my precise area." "I'm not familiar with that  letter." <br />
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 These are quotes from the Internal Revenue Service officials who  testified this week before the House and Senate. That is the authentic  sound of stonewalling, and from the kind of people who run Washington in  the modern age—smooth, highly credentialed and unaccountable. They're  surrounded by legal and employment protections, they know how to parse a  careful response, they know how to blur the essential point of a  question in a blizzard of unconnected factoids. They came across as  people arrogant enough to target Americans for abuse and harassment and  think they'd get away with it.<br />
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 So what did we learn the past week, and what are the essentials to keep in mind?<br />
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 We learned the people who ran and run the IRS are not going to help  Congress find out what happened in the IRS. We know we haven't gotten  near the bottom of the political corruption of that agency. We do not  know who ordered the targeting of conservative groups and individuals,  or why, or exactly when it began. We don't know who executed the orders  or directives. We do not know the full scope or extent of the scandal.  We don't know, for instance, how many applicants for tax-exempt status  were abused. <br />
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We know the IRS commissioner wasn't telling the truth in March 2012,  when he testified: "There's absolutely no targeting." We have learned  the Lois Lerner lied when she claimed she had spontaneously admitted the  targeting in a Q-and-A at a Washington meeting. It was part of a spin  operation in which she'd planted the question with a friend. We know the  tax-exempt bureau Ms. Lerner ran did not simply make mistakes because  it was overwhelmed with requests—the targeting began before a surge in  applications. And Ms. Lerner did not learn about the targeting in  2012—the IRS audit timeline shows she was briefed in June 2011. She said  the targeting was the work of rogue agents in the Cincinnati office.  But the Washington Post spoke to an IRS worker there, who said:  "Everything comes from the top."<br />
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 We know that Lois Lerner this week announced she'd done nothing wrong, and then took the Fifth. <br />
 And we know Jay Leno, grown interestingly fearless, said of the new  IRS commissioner, "They're called 'acting commissioner' because you have  to act like the scandal doesn't involve the White House."<br />
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 But the most important IRS story came not from the hearings but from  Mike Huckabee's program on Fox News Channel. He interviewed and told the  story of Catherine Engelbrecht—a nice woman, a citizen, an American.  She and her husband live in Richmond, Texas. They have a small  manufacturing business. In the past few years she became interested in  public policy and founded two groups, King Street Patriots, and True the  Vote. <br />
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 In July 2010 she sent applications to the IRS for tax-exempt status.  What followed was not the harassment, intrusiveness and delay we're now  used to hearing of. The US government came down on her with full force.<br />
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IRS officials have complained that the law is murky, it's difficult  to define what the tax exemption law really means. But they don't have  any problem defining it. They defined it with a vengeance. <br />
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 Second, it is important to remember that there has never been an  investigation of what happened in the IRS. There was an internal IRS  audit, not an investigation, carried out by an inspector general, who  was careful this week to note to the House what he'd done was not an  investigation. He was tasked to come to conclusions on whether there had  been wrongdoing at the agency. It was not his job to find out exactly  why it happened, how and when the scandal began, who was involved, and  how they operated.<br />
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 A dead serious investigation is needed. The IRS has colorfully  demonstrated that it cannot investigate itself. The Obama administration  wants the FBI—which answers to Eric Holder's Justice Department—to  investigate, but that would not be credible. The investigators of the  IRS must be independent of the administration, or their conclusions will  not be trustworthy.<br />
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			<title>Bridge over Seattle area river collapses; cars in water</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 04:03:47 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Anyone here try XMBC?</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 03:10:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm thinking of giving it a try using an HD Homerun prime plus whatever TV it can include from internet sources. 
 
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			<b>About</b><br /><br /> <b>XBMC</b> is an award-winning free and open source (GPL)  software media player and entertainment hub for digital media. XBMC is  available for Linux, OSX, and Windows. Created in 2003 by a group of  like minded programmers, XBMC is a non-profit project run and developed  by volunteers located around the world. More than 50 software developers  have contributed to XBMC, and 100-plus translators have worked to  expand its reach, making it available in more than 30 languages.<br />
 While XBMC functions very well as a standard media player application  for your computer, it has been designed to be the perfect companion for  your <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_theater_PC" target="_blank">HTPC</a>.  Supporting an almost endless range of remote controls, and combined  with its beautiful interface and powerful skinning engine, XBMC feels  very natural to use from the couch and is the ideal solution for your  home theater.<br />
 Currently XBMC can be used to play almost all popular audio and video  formats around. It was designed for network playback, so you can stream  your multimedia from anywhere in the house or directly from the  internet using practically any protocol available. Use your media as-is:  XBMC can play CDs and DVDs directly from the disk or image file, almost  all popular archive formats from your hard drive, and even files inside  ZIP and RAR archives. It will even scan all of your media and  automatically create a personalized library complete with box covers,  descriptions, and fanart. There are playlist and slideshow functions, a  weather forecast feature and many audio visualizations. Once installed,  your computer will become a fully functional multimedia jukebox.<br />
 It is difficult to put into words all that XBMC can do, head to the <a href="http://xbmc.org/skins" target="_blank">gallery</a> to see some examples, or take the plunge and <a href="http://xbmc.org/download" target="_blank">Try it Today</a>.<br />
			
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:39:14 GMT</pubDate>
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<div style="text-align: left;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: georgia"><b>(CNN) </b>- Normally, the disclosure of lewd photos and messages exchanged in a sexting scandal would derail a campaign. But for Anthony Weiner, that would be old news.</span></font><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family: georgia">He said as much in an interview Thursday, repeating a statement he made prior to <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/22/disgraced-ex-congressman-weiner-says-hes-running-for-nyc-mayor/" target="_blank">yesterday's launch of his New York mayoral campaign</a>. Weiner acknowledged it is possible that more photos from the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/16/weiner.scandal/index.html" target="_blank">scandal which led him to step down from Congress in 2011 could come out</a>.<br />
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