"Trapped Like Animals" On Jet Blue

[jillian]

Go there for what?

It's a federal crime to obstruct the operation of an aircraft. Let me know how popping the slide works for you. I hear they'll let you have one phone call.

[Sitarro]

That's why I didn't complain. I also didn't complain about waiting for something like two hours for my luggage. The weather made things really chaotic that evening and lots of flights were being cancelled. At least I got in.

I called my husband and let him know I was OK and not to expect me home till around midnight.

Yes, luggage is unloaded manually onto a tug and cart system and then brought across the airport to the bag room and unloaded from the cart to a specific conveyor belt(usually by a single person, 250 bags is exhausting!) that then brings it to you.

We work in all types of cold, hot, wet and snowy conditions hoping to not fall or be run over by ground equipment or something which would be the ultimate in "on the job injury", getting sucked into a running jet engine. Injuries are often and the pay is a joke but it is so worth it knowing how understanding and thankful the flying public are, many should go back to riding on a bus where they would be more comfortable and they obviously belong.

Oh by the way, at current gas prices....if you were to drive from L.A. to New York (it is over 3000 miles) and your vehicle gets 30 miles to the gallon it would cost around 250 dollars just for the fuel. At least 5 fuel stops, 3 stops a day to fill your belly and stops to evacuate the waste, at an average speed of 50 miles an hour(pretty high when factoring all of the stops) you will have a drive time of 60 hours. At 12 hours of driving a day that will take you 5 days and at least 4 hotel rooms.....another minimum of 200 dollars in hotel rooms and what 10-20 a day for meals and you are looking at 5 days and over 5 hundred dollars plus the very real wear and tear on your vehicle.

I just checked Jet Blue's rate from Ontario, California to New York JFK with a week and a half notice.......they will plan on getting you there in 5 hours for 159 dollars.

Greyhound, with a 7 day advance ticket purchase will get you to New York(best case scenario) in 2 days 17 hours and 15 minutes and will cost 139 dollars plus food and drink.

That is the real world, I have always been amazed at airline travel, even with all of the delays that could possibly come up I still get to where I am going in less time than it takes to watch a few hours of television. And yet all that I hear is bitching and moaning about how terrible we are treated. For the last 10 years I have flown at least 3 times a month across the country and to the UK, I don't fly anyone else but Continental and have never been treated poorly and never lost a bag, am I just very lucky?

[Mr. P]

Go there for what?

You could start with Federal Aviation Regulations which are Federal law. Try this one for starters. Most likely what the first would be but maybe not all they would charge yer dumb ass with.

Sec. 91.11 - Prohibition on interference with crewmembers.
No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a crewmember in the performance of the crewmember's duties aboard an aircraft being operated.

Same wording in FAR part 121 which applies to airlines.

Go figure.

[Abbey Marie]

You could start with Federal Aviation Regulations which are Federal law. Try this one for starters. Most likely what the first would be but maybe not all they would charge yer dumb ass with.

Sec. 91.11 - Prohibition on interference with crewmembers.
No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a crewmember in the performance of the crewmember's duties aboard an aircraft being operated.

Same wording in FAR part 121 which applies to airlines.

Go figure.

That is a very (intentionally) broadly-worded reg, and would surely cover just about any non-compliant behavior. I wonder if they would arrest a passenger who demanded medical attention, or one who was clasutrophobic and demanded to be let out of the cabin before they hyperventilated.

[Mr. P]

That is a very (intentionally) broadly-worded reg, and would surely cover just about any non-compliant behavior. I wonder if they would arrest a passenger who demanded medical attention, or one who was clasutrophobic and demanded to be let out of the cabin before they hyperventilated.

Maybe so, but that's the reg. you can't have 100 or so people making the decisions on how to operate an aircraft. And yes, they will assist medically.

Is a claustrophobic at risk of dying from being claustrophobic?
If so what the hell are they doing on an airplane in the first place?

[Abbey Marie]

Maybe so, but that's the reg. you can't have 100 or so people making the decisions on how to operate an aircraft. And yes, they will assist medically.

Is a claustrophobic at risk of dying from being claustrophobic?
If so what the hell are they doing on an airplane in the first place?

Well, people sometimes have to fly, you know.

As for claustrophobia, everyone is different, but to me, being on an airplane for a normal flight, and being trapped in one for 8 hours with no chance of getting out, are two very different things. I guess you have to have it to understand.

[Mr. P]

Well, people sometimes have to fly, you know.

As for claustrophobia, everyone is different, but to me, being on an airplane for a normal flight, and being trapped in one for 8 hours with no chance of getting out, are two very different things. I guess you have to have it to understand.

Don't fly commercial.

[Abbey Marie]

Don't fly commercial.

Sir, yes sir!

[Sitarro]

You could start with Federal Aviation Regulations which are Federal law. Try this one for starters. Most likely what the first would be but maybe not all they would charge yer dumb ass with.

Sec. 91.11 - Prohibition on interference with crewmembers.
No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a crewmember in the performance of the crewmember's duties aboard an aircraft being operated.

Same wording in FAR part 121 which applies to airlines.

Go figure.

I remember the days when smoking was allowed on airplanes, then the smokers were put into a section in the back of the plane. My oldest brother was a Captain back then and hated cigarettes. There were more than a few instances where a person in a row that was marked no-smoking lit up and caused a lot of trouble for the crew, they were promptly arrested when the plane was put on the ground. Just as when you are on a boat, the Captain is the person in charge and has all of the power, go up against him or the flight crew and you will spend time in jail.

[The ClayTaurus]

Sitarro, what do you do in the airline industry?

I'd tend to agree a strong majority of passengers are unreasonably demanding.

[-Cp]

It's a federal crime to obstruct the operation of an aircraft. Let me know how popping the slide works for you. I hear they'll let you have one phone call.

It's also an obstruction of justice for them to falsly imprison those passengers...

Speeding is s crime to, what's your point?

[jillian]

It's also an obstruction of justice for them to falsly imprison those passengers...

Speeding is s crime to, what's your point?

No one said obstruction of justice. And, once again, it isn't false imprisonment. They'd be totally justified in arresting you. For a claim of false imprisonment to lie, they'd have had to be totally unjustified and have had no basis in law to detain you. What part of the law don't you understand?

Like I said, good luck with that. Let us know how it goes.

[Hagbard Celine]

Sitarro, what do you do in the airline industry?

I'd tend to agree a strong majority of passengers are unreasonably demanding.

He's a stewardess.

[Sitarro]

He's a stewardess.

Actually haggis, most of the "stewardess's " I have seen that weren't women look a lot like you and I would guess practice the same lifestyle....
It would appear that your new avatar shows you sucking on a cylindrical object in an effort to get some kind of "release", I rest my case.

[-Cp]

No one said obstruction of justice. And, once again, it isn't false imprisonment. They'd be totally justified in arresting you. For a claim of false imprisonment to lie, they'd have had to be totally unjustified and have had no basis in law to detain you. What part of the law don't you understand?

Like I said, good luck with that. Let us know how it goes.

And you have yet to name the law that'd be broke .... you have got to be the biggest blowhard I've "seen" ..