Contact these turncoats...

[jillian]

That issue was disposed of in 2005. And any other concerns should have been put to rest when he signed Form 180, but I guess you don't read stuff like that on the GOPNewsnetwork.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...dical_records/

[Birdzeye]

Ask the guv'mint office taht was responsible for keeping them. Bush authorized complete publication. Kerry did not. Do you deny this?

I'm not concerned with what the government offices did. Since Bush wanted to become POTUS, you'd think he'd have complete copies of his records to dispel any questions about the apparent gaps in his service record.

At least with Kerry, only the hate-Kerry crowd denies that we know what Kerry did in the service and there aren't any questions about him not putting in his time.

[Sitarro]

They were cooperating to the satisfaction of Hans Blix... didn't matter to the war monger tho...

he invaded anyway...

Yea sure, let's form a policy based on Hans and his merry little UN. The UN was on the take ace, I wouldn't doubt for a second that Hans could be bought for some new wooden shoes. I find it hard to believe that a former member of the U.S.military could be so naive.

By the way, the photoshop work on your avatar is pathetic, I can't believe anyone could make a tiger look like a fag but that is exactly what that thing looks like. Oh no please don't shoot Tony, here's some Frosted Flakes....they're GREAT.......weak.

[TheStripey1]

Got a link for that 51 yr old with the mystical PTSD?

They won't be taking 40 plus, but if they do i'll signup if you do, we'll make a day of it.

check with your recruiter... but why do you want jilli to join with you? she's not a bush loving war monger like you...

OH I KNOW!

you need some one to hold your wittle hand, right?

your drill sergeant will do that for you...

...ofa in the military...

[jimnyc]

have you read the board rules, ofa?

how about this one in particular?

** I expect Staff to be held to a higher standard as they set the tone of our community. As I am asking them to take the high road and refrain from engaging members in 'flaming', members are asked to refrain from 'flaming' Staff. If you have an issue with board decisions, or a particular member of Staff, please PM an Admin. There will be very little tolerance for members that go out of their way to engage Staff in a manner unbecoming to the community. **

Have YOU read the rules, Stripey? I'm handling the issues with Staff, I politely asked that complaints be sent via PM, which you have already done, no need to provoke the issue here.

[jimnyc]

They don't have a clue what constitutes victory, Grumpy, that's why they don't answer the question... all they can do is point their fingers at the dems and say... you want defeat...

a lie of course, but since that's their only refuge, that's what they do...

but in all fairness, ofa did answer the question... when all their oil is gone... of course he didn't answer my follow-up question... if he was going to kill all the iraqis to accomplish it...

Not true, I answered, and I've yet to see you or any other dem respond to my post.

[jillian]

Not true, I answered, and I've yet to see you or any other dem respond to my post.

Maybe I missed it.

[TheStripey1]

Sheesh, I go to work for a mere ten hours and there are well over a hundred posts kickin around. So, I skipped to the end. If I missed something send a courier.





And, note to others, especially those without the service time to've learned some logistics, Please don't bring up the unarmored hummers. It's just more mythinformation.

BTW, I am not intentially bagging on you. It's just that you posted and by that time I wasn't reading any further.

that's pretty cute... mythinformation... but it sounds like you have a lisp...

can I use it elsewhere?

the guard unit from my area went over with cloth doored humvees... is that enough armor for you? it sure as hell ain't enough for me... but maybe that canvas stood up... yeah, right... uh huh... sure...

[trobinett]

Hey, enough already.

Kerry, and Bush were BOTH in the service, they took different directions, but did their part, PERIOD.

What I find troubling is that 30 odd years later, it becomes a major issue.

I think its just a shame, that neither their records can be looked at very hard, without some troubling thoughts being raised.

Most veterans records stand the test of inspection, theirs should as well.

My 2 cents........

[jimnyc]

Maybe I missed it.

I stated that I believed 'victory' would be establishing a fully recognized democratic government in Iraq, and leaving when the Iraqi's themselves are capable of handling their own security. The terrorists won't disappear, nor will the killing, but their own men need to have the proper training and capability of securing their own country before our men/women leave.

[TheStripey1]

(speaking to oca
Why should I sign up?? I don't support Bush's war and I wouldn't have any of our troops there. You're the one who wants people to die for you there. I figure it's real easy to support something when it's not *your* life on the line.

yes, jilli, we call people like oca lip service patriots... when we don't call them chickenhawkscum that is...

[TheStripey1]

Don't believe ya but then again I think you're disingenuous about 97.3% of the time anyway.

Its not Bush's war, its America's war.

bush started it, it's bush's war, america's war was with afghanistan... but bush cut and ran from there and now look at the mess IT's in...

oh wait... you don't watch TV or read the newspapers... never mind...

[TheStripey1]

Oh crap---We're there---take the next step instead of this incessant whining.

which is what?

obtw, can you define victory in Iraq?

[jillian]

I stated that I believed 'victory' would be establishing a fully recognized democratic government in Iraq, and leaving when the Iraqi's themselves are capable of handling their own security. The terrorists won't disappear, nor will the killing, but their own men need to have the proper training and capability of securing their own country before our men/women leave.

Fair enough.

And if the Iraqis are basically letting us fight their civil war for them? Why should our troops die to give them a democracy they aren't willing to fight for?

What you're talking about is a never ending presence in that country, I think, because it seems to me that no matter when we leave, the whole shebang is going to fall apart.

[TheStripey1]

that is not why iraq was invaded....that is the lefts reason why we invaded....but the left has never let facts get in the way of a good argument....

what was the reason then?