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    A scientific report has concluded that Creationism is not science and should not be taught as such. It points out the difficulties in meshing religion and science. Religion is based on belief, while science relies on factual evidence.
    Or, as Bill Hicks once said "I have a one word question for those who believe in creation -- Dinosaurs"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    A scientific report has concluded that Creationism is not science and should not be taught as such. It points out the difficulties in meshing religion and science. Religion is based on belief, while science relies on factual evidence.
    Or, as Bill Hicks once said "I have a one word question for those who believe in creation -- Dinosaurs"

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    what created dinosaurs?

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    They evolved. Just like everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    They evolved. Just like everything else.
    evolved from what?

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    Go back to school dude.

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    When watching some of my favourite Discovery or Nat'l Geographic shows I become literall nauseated when I hear them proclaim things like:

    "This plant (somehow, magically - dp) evolved to be consumed by large animals, then have it's seeds pooped out, to use the dung as fertilizer."

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    "The search for water in space is the search for life, because life could (somehow, magically - dp) evolve where there's water"

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    "The crocodile (somehow, magically - dp) developed the ability to not destroy it's own jaw with it's massive closing power - 2000 psi or more!"

    I think it's absolutely against anything remotely related to common sense to think all this - how our universe works - happened by luck and random chance or accident. It's silly. Macro Evolution is a JOKE. Absolute lunacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabosaurus View Post
    Go back to school dude.
    This because she doesn't have an answer. Maybe she should go back to school?

    Personally, I agree Creationism is not science. That does not mean it is not the Truth. I also believe that if we are going to teach Evolution, and I believe that we should teach it, we should teach that there are other "theories" that counter, or in my belief, assist the science of Evolution.

    I do not believe life formed out of a primordial soup. To believe such takes much more faith than I have, as there is NO evidence that this happened! But, I do believe that the laws of nature including Evolution, were created in the same way we were created and life goes on from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    I think it's absolutely against anything remotely related to common sense to think all this - how our universe works - happened by luck and random chance or accident. It's silly. Macro Evolution is a JOKE. Absolute lunacy.
    What about the idea that a Supreme Being created the heavens and universe? That is really unbelievable to a lot of folks.

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    Frankly, the complexities of our universe POINT towards a designer. If people don't want to believe in God, they'll find plenty of excuses; they'll drum-up whatever "evidence" they want to support their preconceptions
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Frankly, the complexities of our universe POINT towards a designer. If people don't want to believe in God, they'll find plenty of excuses; they'll drum-up whatever "evidence" they want to support their preconceptions
    I disagree. I think this is a lazy way of thinking about the universe. "It's too complex so it must've been designed." The fossil, genetic, chemical, and geological evidence overwhelmingly supports and reaffirms the theory of evolution. I don't think that should have any bearing on a person's religious beliefs. Loving God and your fellow man doesn't have anything to do with how we all got here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    The fossil, genetic, chemical, and geological evidence overwhelmingly supports and reaffirms the theory of evolution.

    Except I believe it overwhelmingly supports intelligent design. Because I'm open minded.
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    Scientific people tend to rely on actual evidence. Fossils and remains are more important than theory. And they date back further than the 12,000 years dictated by the Bible.

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    what's dictated biblically at 12000 years? The bible doesn't estimate or indicate the age of the earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmp View Post
    Except I believe it overwhelmingly supports intelligent design. Because I'm open minded.
    Riiiiiiight. I should've remembered that but I was too distracted with the mountain of fossil, genetic, chemical and geological evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hagbard Celine View Post
    Riiiiiiight. I should've remembered that but I was too distracted with the mountain of fossil, genetic, chemical and geological evidence.
    ...which flies in the face of Macro evolution, yet you believe it because, perhaps, you're scared of the Truth.
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