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Originally Posted by nevadamedic
God doesn't give me free will, the Constitution does.go re-read the constitution and find out where your will, while living within the law, is not "free" under the constitution. further, the constitution enables and grants rights, not free will.
your rant is nothing more than wimpering cry for help, i suggest reading the bible...
left coast isolationist
then where did it come from before 17 september 1787....and where does the rest of the world get their free will...God doesn't give me free will, the Constitution does.
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."
~Albert Camus
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Unfortunately, a lot of the world doesn't get free will.
Religion has its good and bad points.
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Everyone has free will...Now...it's just that some faiths, such as Islam, tend to kill those who EXPRESS it or ACT upon it.
Still, they have the free-will to leave Islam and it's tyranny.
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I was thinking more along the lines of dictatorships like N Korea, China, Zimbabwe, Gabon and places like that.
There are some Islamic countries that it is best to steer clear of for sure..
left coast isolationist
they can choose not to live there.........and just cuz i am bored what are the bad points of religion.....
islam if practiced as christians now practice christianity is just fine....it is the people and their actions that are the issue.....not the religion......
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."
~Albert Camus
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Do not know where to start with the bad points. I guess the interpretation of some leaves a lot to be desired. Some of the Imans interpret the Koran in a certain way (those that support Sharia law). Some realy hardcore Christians interpret the bible in a certain way. I am a non-religious person, so I guess I see the down sides more readily than non-religious people.
I agree with your last paragraph.
left coast isolationist
it would seem it is the people that are the problem not the religion.....
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."
~Albert Camus
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the magna carta
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If mankind needed a constitution to have freedom of the will, we would have none, as tyrants would never grant us a will free to differ from theirs or a constitution that would limit their autocracy. A constitution merely helps to guard certain freedoms so that we can act on the decisions that our pre-existing free will enables us to make.God doesn't give me free will, the Constitution does.
As for the anti-religious rant... do you honestly not see the irony implicit in wasting your time complaining on the internet about how other people waste their time? Because It just about hit me over the head with a sledgehammer.
"Let me at least not die without a struggle, inglorious, but having done some big thing first, for men to come to know of." - Hector
left coast isolationist
and before that.....the magna carta
"I would rather live my life as if there is a God and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't and die to find out there is."
~Albert Camus
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The Bible.
Seeker of virtue
God gave you the ConstitutionGod doesn't give me free will, the Constitution does.
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