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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    Ftou sou kariola!
    Hey, I just put that through the Greek translator on the internet. It came out as "I have a small penis"...hhhmmm

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    hmmmm There are 50,000 NATO troops in Afganhistan, how many do we need there?

    Of course the taliban are coming back. They have spent four years getting it together in pakistan. They rule western pak now. Lots of locals to draw on for troops and plenty more coming in from other countries. They even announced in one of their tapes a while ago they were stepping up operations.

    There have been scores of battles fought in afganhistan along the border with pak. There have been thousands of taliban and al queda killed and captured. But its never covered on the news. Is that because it would show the military and Bush in a good light and having success? A suicide bomber in kabul gets covered big on the news. A battle that kills 200 taliban gets ignored. Some of it hand to hand. I have to find out about it on a milblog on the internet. even FOX the "conservative" network doesn't carry the reports. It's become the forgotten front.

    Afganhistan is a NATO operation. Which means Bush doesn't have much say in how things are run, other than the amount of troops put in and support allocated. Being NATO run it can't be Bush's fault if anything goes wrong. Therefore the news doesn't want to be bothered with reporting on things there other than to harp on bin laden not being caught.
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    No one can say what is in Romney's heart; it may be political, it may sincere. But I can say that a lot us change our minds about the immorality of abortion. It often comes with age and reflection.
    After the game, the king and the pawn go into the same box - Author unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    Hey, I just put that through the Greek translator on the internet. It came out as "I have a small penis"...hhhmmm
    Yeah, ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    Kerry changed his mind...plenty of times....look where it got him...
    You mean John "go to war with a camera crew" Kerry?

    Mittt is changing his mind on abortion, its a sign of maturity this move to the correct side on this issue. He might've gotten my vote since I can't in good conscience vote for a social piece of shit like Giuliani. I mean who the fuck votes for somebody who condones murdering unborn babies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    Is that sucking sound I hear the sound of Mitt applying his lips to the rear of the rabid right? (oops...sorry,... the base).


    Flip
    http://www.greaterboston.tv/features...ey_032902.html



    Flop
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236499,00.html



    Guess it's okay to flip flop to suck up to the right.
    Well either he grew up and gained some wisdom or he just got very gutsy in thinking he could win an election without having NOW and Planned parenthood's armtwisting..ooops I mean pocketbooks..


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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    Is that sucking sound I hear the sound of Mitt applying his lips to the rear of the rabid right? (oops...sorry,... the base).

    Guess it's okay to flip flop to suck up to the right.
    First, he will have to address his changes in position before people will take him seriously.

    Second, you seem to not understand the difference between a flip flop and a geniune change of position for principled reasons. There is a difference. The question here is whether Mitt's change in position is for principles or for political expediency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jillian View Post
    We dropped the ball in Afghanistan. Diverted our troops and resources and the Taliban is very much resurrecting itself.

    As for "whatever Bush does" I will condemn him for it. You clearly don't know me because I very much wanted to root for him.

    And if you think Dems are a cohesive unit who have a homogeneous view of things, then you're sadly mistaken. Haven't you ever heard the old adage "I don't belong to any organized political party; I'm a democrat"???
    Resurrecting themselves? Have you paid any attention to recent reports from Afghanistan? We have obliterated their efforts to resurge in recent battles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumplestillskin View Post
    Kerry changed his mind...plenty of times....look where it got him...
    Changing once on principle is one thing. Changing every other day for political expediency is a huge problem.

    In fact, that was Kerry's major problem with the Swift Boat Veterns for Truth. Everytime they point out how this part of his story is incorrect, he would tell a completely different version. He couldnt even keep from flip flopping his own life history. Which of the 6 different versions of his experience in Vietnam were people supposed to believe over the SB Vets one version?

    Heck, I heard a John Kerry speech where he changed his position on Iraq twice in the same speech.

    Now if Mitt starts changing his position every other day depending on what crowd he is talking to.. ill get worried about his positions. But I think a man can have a change of view on issues, particularly moral issues. President Reagan did. And there was no doubt in my mind that it was a sincere and complete change.

    This thread is really showing me that Democrats really didn't understand why John Kerry's change in position every other month (or 20 minutes) was a huge problem for him. They just recognize that his changing positions was a negative and think that any other politician who changes positions once in his life will face the same problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbey View Post
    No one can say what is in Romney's heart; it may be political, it may sincere. But I can say that a lot us change our minds about the immorality of abortion. It often comes with age and reflection.
    You know what.. Thinking about it, I can live with someone who does the right thing for the wrong reasons as long as the right thing is done. Atleast I think I could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCA View Post
    You mean John "go to war with a camera crew" Kerry?

    Mittt is changing his mind on abortion, its a sign of maturity this move to the correct side on this issue. He might've gotten my vote since I can't in good conscience vote for a social piece of shit like Giuliani. I mean who the fuck votes for somebody who condones murdering unborn babies?
    I dont know if it was a vote between Guiliani or any pro abortion Democrat, I could easily pull the lever for Guiliani cause he is the man who would probably make me sick least.

    Life is tough sometimes. Choices between good and bad are often the easy ones. Its the choices been good and gooder, and; bad or less bad, that are the tough ones.

    Some people seem to think that the only choices all the time are good and evil. I wish it were the case but its not.

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