jim, I know you are trying to find some reasonable agreement here but Osama Bin Laden was also a Saudi national living and headquartered in Afghanistan and being protected and given safe harbour by the Taliban whic hwas the ruling jurisdiction then in Afghanistan and had been previously targeted and attacked with cruise missles and other more subversive measures on the orders by Bill Clinton despite MILLIONS of protests from the reich wingers that to this day embrace the Saudi regime that we recently gave 800 buillion dollars worth of military eqipment and other American treasure and trust even though it was Osama Bin Laden that planned and his surrogates carried out the attack on 9/11 and that he and Saddam Hussein hated each other and there has never been an iota of evidense presented that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 in fact just the opposite is true and you should know that.