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    Default Bush compares Revolutionary, terror wars

    What a poor comparison. Bush is grasping at straws. Why does he turn everything into a way to harp on his international policy.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070219/...mWyQoByZqyFz4D

    MOUNT VERNON, Va. - President Bush honored the 275th birthday of the nation's first president on Monday, likening George Washington's long struggle that gave birth to a nation to the war on global terrorism.

    "Today, we're fighting a new war to defend our liberty and our people and our way of life," said Bush, standing in front of Washington's home and above a mostly frozen Potomac River.

    "And as we work to advance the cause of freedom around the world, we remember that the father of our country believed that the freedoms we secured in our revolution were not meant for Americans alone."

    Bush chose the national Presidents Day holiday to make his first visit as president to Mount Vernon. He and first lady Laura Bush helped lay a wreath at Washington's tomb, then the president gave a speech from a platform on the bowling green lawn of the estate.

    "I feel right at home here. After all, this is the home of the first George W. I thank President Washington for welcoming us today. He doesn't look a day over 275 years old," Bush said to laughter.

    Washington was born on Feb. 22, 1732.

    "On the field of battle, Washington's forces were facing a mighty empire, and the odds against them were overwhelming. The ragged Continental Army lost more battles than it won, suffered waves of desertions, and stood on the brink of disaster many times. Yet George Washington's calm hand and determination kept the cause of independence and the principles of our Declaration alive," Bush said on a clear but frigid day, speaking to several hundred people.

    Mount Vernon is about 16 miles south of the White House. Bush traveled by helicopter.

    "In the end, General Washington understood that the Revolutionary War was a test of wills, and his will was unbreakable," said Bush. "After winning the war, Washington did what victorious leaders rarely did at the time. He voluntarily gave up power.

    Washington's retirement didn't last long, Bush noted.

    "As president, George Washington understood that his decisions would shape the future of our young nation and set precedent. He formed the first Cabinet, appointed the first judges, and issued the first veto."

    "Over the centuries, America has succeeded because we have always tried to maintain the decency and the honor of our first president," Bush said.

    Before and after Bush's speech, recorded music by the 3rd U.S. Infantry Old Guard Fife and Drum Corps blared through loudspeakers. Organizers of the event said the fife and drum corps had planned to perform live, but decided against it Sunday night because of expected temperatures in the 20s that could have damaged their historic instruments.

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    I see, so others wanting to take over this country means nothing to you...

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    Because that's what politicians do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    I see, so others wanting to take over this country means nothing to you...
    The fact being that they can't and this "war" hardly compares to the revolutionary war. If he gona go with the comparison as least use one that's partly legit the cold war and even those comparisons have problems.

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    Freedom is fragile and must be protected. To sacrifice it, even as a temporary measure, is to betray it. - Germaine Greer

    Your quote sir...............
    If ya can't prove it, don't say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    The fact being that they can't and this "war" hardly compares to the revolutionary war. If he gona go with the comparison as least use one that's partly legit the cold war and even those comparisons have problems.
    They can't ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trobinett View Post
    Freedom is fragile and must be protected. To sacrifice it, even as a temporary measure, is to betray it. - Germaine Greer

    Your quote sir...............
    My quote and Bush actions speak against it as much as the terrorist. A outside terrorist has not taken away any of our freedoms but Bush has and has taken away the "terrorists" with secret prisons, giving them no right to trial but not treating them as POW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilloduck View Post
    They can't ?
    No they can't, not now. All the muslim countries banded together could not invade and defeat us militarily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    No they can't, not now. All the muslim countries banded together could not invade and defeat us militarily.
    And this helps you? People said the same about Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurt View Post
    And this helps you? People said the same about Hitler.
    Yeah right, explain to me how a few terrorists with their few mild attacks throughout the world really compares to Hitler who conquered most of Europe and whose army was still on the march.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    Yeah right, explain to me how a few terrorists with their few mild attacks throughout the world really compares to Hitler who conquered most of Europe and whose army was still on the march.
    Thanks for expressing what I think is the honest POV of Liberals regarding the dangers we are facing. Denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    My quote and Bush actions speak against it as much as the terrorist. A outside terrorist has not taken away any of our freedoms but Bush has and has taken away the "terrorists" with secret prisons, giving them no right to trial but not treating them as POW.
    Could you tell me what freedoms Bush has taken away from you or me?

    As for locking away terrorist in secret prisons, I'm all for it. They get treated better there then they deserve. I think they need to held till they tell everything they know then covered with pigs blood and shot. But that's just me.
    When I die I'm sure to go to heaven, cause I spent my time in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaffer View Post
    As for locking away terrorist in secret prisons, I'm all for it. They get treated better there then they deserve. I think they need to held till they tell everything they know then covered with pigs blood and shot. But that's just me.
    That can be your POV but the quote still applies.
    Could you tell me what freedoms Bush has taken away from you or me?
    His hebous corpus and privacy violation have been debated for awile. Wiretaps he didn't get warrents for, US citizens he threw in jail and treated as enemy combatents/denied representation and a speedy trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalNation View Post
    That can be your POV but the quote still applies.

    His hebous corpus and privacy violation have been debated for awile. Wiretaps he didn't get warrents for, US citizens he threw in jail and treated as enemy combatents/denied representation and a speedy trial.
    So in America you worry abou things that haven't hapened to you yet but globally you could care less what our enemies our planning.

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    I care about terrorist threat but that doesn't mean I have to think it's in the same category of the revolution or WW1/2. It doesn't mean I should be so afraid that I would allow even the potential of my rights being stripped away from me by my own government without protest or comment.

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